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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What informed people? "Informed people" in the context of my comments are Nurses and Doctors I suggest you ask about the problems of dealing with ill patients who don't want help.

Lying sack exploiters of fear that you complain about are not "informed" or often even aware of how science works.

If you want to complain about them, just go ahead. Don't pull logical fallacy crud with my statement out of context.

And if you disagree with Me, feel free to make your case. Unlike the "we listen to science" ( Science's Facebook page? ) self congratulated who will never admit error, I can be convinced to change my mind by facts.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, I don't know if oil choice is that important. But it could be, and if a diet works for you, it works. Good job!


I don't really care if others think a diet is silly. There are certainly fad diets that can give you vitamin deficiency diseases if you eat nothing but them for months. ( so can diets like Age of Sail hard tack and salt beef ) And I recommend some variety both for health and boredom reasons.

Cutting carbs works for a lot of people. Especially fat folk developing Diabetes. I'm not talking "Keto" or Atkins, just far less cake and cookies.

Expect plateaus, just change things up after you stall for a week or more. The human body adjusts itself to stabilize it's weight, automatically, so like the "muscle confusion" fad in weight training ( anyone else remember that? ) you have to nudge yourself off habit repeatedly.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Needs_o2,

I might agree with you! It's hard to tell by your format.

There has been a LOT of good, or maybe good, advice, drug treatments, etc. that were ignored, lied about, denied, and even loudly condemned, based upon politics and not science, or even Medical ( not exactly the same ) facts and evidence.

It's impossible to prove how many people died the last year and a half because some people hate Trump. Both by being denied access to drugs that might have saved them ( HCQ, etc. ) or refused to get vaccinated because Joe Biden* and Kamala Harris* loudly announced they didn't trust a vaccine Trump Made!

That they are serial liars about taking the vaccine, ( Which they no doubt demanded to get ahead of others, and then did photo ops of themselves getting! ) the implication that Donald was brewing the vaccine in the White House basement, wearing his Slytherin House Robes, and their 540 degree turn on the subject, the instant they announced they were our new rulers, is obvious. And, unfortunately, unremarkable in multiple ways.
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Needs_o2
Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2021 - 02:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire,
Definitely not going after you, I just get tired of hearing "follow the science and doctors" as though ALL scientists and doctors ALL agree that the shot is "Perfectly Safe", which includes our doctor and is why she is no longer our doctor. She pretends there are no issues with it rather than admitting there is and addressing them as legitimate concerns. So, as far as I'm concerned, NO ONE can say it's perfectly safe, at least for a couple of more years, and I don't see any way around that.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 12:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/07/the -vexing-vaccine.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 12:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok. Thank for the clarification. : )

I'm not sure how upset I'd be with your Doc, though. Her employer might Demand she not address your concerns.

Locally medicine is nearly a monopoly, most small businesses were bought out by the University associated Mega-corp. It's the single biggest employer in the area, now that the Manufacturing jobs are gone.

Lucky me, it's a darn good evil corporate entity, as they go, and care is decent. ( my scale isn't universal )

I know my Primary Care physician doesn't want to waste her time explaining the risks, and she doesn't have reliable data to properly inform my decisions. There's also the legal liability issue.

If your Doc could honestly and accurately tell you your odds, then you gamble & lose, your family would sue! It's life safer to just urge the Stock Approved choice.

And generally, taking the vaccine is safer than not. Depending! If the above study on teen girls is right, then that group probably shouldn't get the shot, everything else being the same... And it's not.

Since I drank the Umbrella Corporation Kool-Aid, ( got my shot ) and so have roughly 70%??? of the Adults in the country, I don't have any serious interest in your choice. The numbers are going to rise and fall like water sloshing in a bucket, no matter what you individually do.

Herd immunity doesn't necessarily apply here, we're close, but the flood of illegal aliens and foreign students are mixing populations of people and germs such that the thinking that used to apply to measles in local school districts, may be obsolete today.

Choices made by the Ruling class in D.C. and colleges are driving the next wave of plagues. That's political and I'll skip the rant.

Btw. Nothing is Perfectly Safe. Vaccines never have bern, and never will be.

Until we can analyze DNA and understand ALL the quirks individuals have, there's risk. Period fracking dot.

For example, Statins & Viagra are the most common drugs. ( let's say ) and one of the Statins my Doc prescribed did nothing bad that I noticed. But another, I was switched to, caused serious chronic pain and muscle tissue loss. It's only a few atoms different. But humans are variable. For me it was the difference between just another pill and I'd rather risk death than be crippled and on morphine.

The cost benefit ratio was horrid.

That's just reality. Nothing is Perfectly Safe for All.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/07/covid infected_illegals_released_without_notice_into_tex as_communities.html

Since the Biden* Occupation is following the Obama policy of shipping illegals all over the country, focusing on "red states" to change the population/votes they're also practicing biological warfare on those Enemies.

If you thought the Panicdemic was fading, you might be wrong.

Ironically, because I live in a state run by a mass murderer, I'm relatively safe from this wave of deliberate murders.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/07/the_c ovid_witch_hunt.html

I'm on record with the selfish, but freedom loving, attitude that "I've got mine" ( vaccinated ) and "an it harm none, do as you wilt" ( arguably Satanic cultist thinking ) when it comes to YOU getting your vaccination.

I highly recommend you do, but it's up to you, and I certainly don't pretend there's no risk.

So I very selfishly ; ) oppose dictatorial attitudes by self righteous people. ( no matter the issue )

The multi generational leap from "you do you" to "Obey!" Is stunning.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/07/i ts_time_to_return_to_vigorous_medical_debate.html
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Needs_o2
Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2021 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire,

Of course nothing is perfect, and I'm definitely not perfect, and I tell my customers that all the time. The problem is that when a medical professional says the shot is "safe", without any caveats about the potential risks, to me that is an out right lie, implying the shot is perfectly safe. Every commercial for any medication spends most of their time listing the possible side affects of their product, where is the list of possible side affects for the shot? What you don't know won't hurt you.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2021 - 12:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://healthy-skeptic.com/2021/07/28/what-more-c an-i-say/

It's safe. It probably won't kill you. Ditto Chipoltes, but I won't eat there. It's not good enough. Taco bell also had bad lettuce a while back, as did our supermarket.

But absent a transcript of your conversation with your doc, I can't comment on your interaction and dissatisfaction.

The politics here means you aren't going to get good information from the government censoring information. Go ask Joe*. He'll probably threaten you.
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2021 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Netflix requires vaccination

https://deadline.com/2021/07/netflix-to-require-co vid-vaccinations-for-all-actors-on-us-productions- 1234801577/
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Sami
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2021 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Facebook too:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/28/facebook-requiring -us-employees-to-be-vaccinated-to-return-to-work.h tml
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2021 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/07/the_c dc_uses_discredited_inapplicable_authority_to_back _its_new_mask_guidelines.html

All VA, and soon all Federal Employees Must... or be fired. Which means lawsuits.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2021 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/schlichter-ima gine-if-they-hadnt-lied-us-last-18-months
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Sami
Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2021 - 04:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From previous article:

"The ruling caste’s conceit is that we are idiots, unable and unworthy to make simple decisions for ourselves. We must be guided, nudged, or intimidated, if necessary, into making the right choice. And we do not deserve explanations, because the last thing our elite wants is accountability."

I hate to say this, but the ruling caste is right about people being idiots. Of course, the ruling class is wrong about everything else and they have no credibility left to speak of, but when it comes to people being idiots, they couldn't have been more right.

That being said, no one can fool all of the people all of the time. It only takes 10% of the population to throw a wrench in their Narrative. A little leaven leavens the whole bread, and they cannot allow for that to happen.

Interesting times.
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Ebutch
Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2021 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2021 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/07/t he_consistent_inconsistencies_of_the_vaccination_d iscussion.html

Before going further, it's worth noting that the open hostility towards and shaming of the unvaccinated does, it seems, have certain parameters. Quite often, as in the Los Angeles Times’ recent “Bring on the Crackdown” editorial, a carve-out from the brunt of the blame is made for “Black and Latino Americans” who are allowed to be “leery” of the government when it comes to their community’s health care. In the case of Black populations, the war crime that was the Tuskegee Experiment is usually cited as sowing permissible mistrust though there seems to be no equivalently awful specific occurrence in the Latino community.

But the broader implication of this stance is not terribly removed from the patently racist paternalism of “Oh, it’s okay, we’ll give them a pass because they don’t get science,” while the existence of any unvaccinated white people who, conversely, are apparently capable of “getting science,” can only possibly be explained by selfish, antisocial politically-based hard-headed obstinance. Side note: vaccination rates track more closely to income and education status than to race but that seems to get lost in the shuffle.

An example of that new, new normal – of combining some truth with a great deal of societal pressure -- was published recently in The Atlantic magazine. The article, titled “Four Reasons Why I’m Wearing a Mask Again,” was standard playbook narcissism, couched in the language of caring for the community, at its most typical. But, in large part, it was not actually wrong.

The vaccinated author re-donned her mask because no vaccine is perfect (true); because the research into whether the vaccinated can somehow still spread the virus is in its infancy (rather over-cautious, but still technically true); and she doesn’t want to get COVID (pretty much a hundred verys to the power of unlikely but, again, theoretically possible). It should be noted that, unless COVID magically disappears from the face of the Earth, these arguments in favor of mask wearing will remain absolutely valid for an eternity, meaning that the author should be open to wearing a mask until the day she dies – almost certainly from something else.

But the fourth argument is where it all breaks down and moves from virtue signaling to virtue shrieking. That’s because, for her fourth argument, the author states that wearing a mask “doesn’t feel like a huge cost to me.”


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/07 /fully-vaccinated-masking-delta/619532/

On mean spirited days, ( who doesn't get the urge to tell others to kiss their butts? Who doesn't always suppress those impulses? : ) ) I want to print offensive to the Left comments on my disposable Chinese made face masks. On cynical days, ( sure, there's overlap in that Venn diagram ) I joke how they used to be nervous when you walked into a bank With a mask.

Today, it occurred to me to get some of the material that reflects light back to cameras sold to celebrities to foil paparazzi.

And, of course, make a mask out of it. And a coif.

https://www.boredpanda.com/anti-paparazzi-scarf-fl ash-photography-protection-ishu-saif-siddiqui/

Search Duck duck go for reflective fabric anti paparazzi, to get explanations on how it works & sources.

Or maybe just a strip of fabric printed in traditional Palestinian Terrorist pattern & wear as keffiyeh, or a BLM virtue signalling face mask... You get the idea, virtue signalling vaccination against criticism.

Or an American Flag to fly from my home or car. Think about that....
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Zacks
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm an engineer and numbers guy, so I have a question.
My niece is a nurse and works in a hospital where they do Covid tests.
She tells me there is no new test, only the same one that gives them a positive or negative for Covid.
So, without any indication of which version you have caught, where is all the data coming from showing this huge increase in Delta variant infections?
Granted, only one source, but still a valid question.
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Needs_o2
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

“Because the experts say so.”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1421190490058334210

Now be quiet and put your mask back on!
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Tpehak
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am an expert and I did not say so.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeh they’re making us wear masks again at work. Nothing like wearing a mask in 98* weather.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me too. It’s not being well received.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, August 03, 2021 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.foxnews.com/media/impeachment-witness- vindman-says-trump-is-to-blame-for-over-600k-covid -deaths

you, Vindman. you.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alpha Variant almost erased the humanity. And now Delta Variant is coming and it is stronger than ever.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bullshit.

Delta is more contagious,but less dangerous. More vaccinated people are dying from the vax, than from the "variant".
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bullshit.

Delta is more contagious,but less dangerous. More vaccinated people are dying from the vax, than from the "variant".
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Needs_o2
Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2021 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, +100 on that.
It's amazing that people like him can so easily spew crap about others knowing it's an outright lie, and they figure if they keep saying it, it will become the truth. If they just had a vaccine for TDS, the world would likely be a much happier place, and we could still disagree and have discussion and debate.
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