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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, December 13, 2020 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Joe. bigtime
Airport shuttle will be at my house in the morning at 8:00.
I expect the whole day will be surreal.

Just talked to pop and he sounds strong.
We talked about coping, for once in my life I get to give him advice.
This game of life has weird rules.

Z
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 02:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coronavirus interview with Erik Buell

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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, December 14, 2020 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://besacenter.org/perspectives-papers/covid-p andemic-roots/

There's a fairly simple logic on murders vs. Accidents. Timing.

It's like having a DNC staff member shot in the back of the head by an expert shot who just vanished without touching his or her victim or taking his wallet. If it happened any time in eternity other than when the DNC server was leaked after someone physically accessed it with a high speed solid state drive, ( The only possible way to achieve the exact data rate the server reported ) it would be just another random murder in a high crime aka Democrat City. But the timing is so utterly convenient, random is ridiculous. Technically possible, mind you, but practically improbable.

We EXPECT a plague to erupt from China every fall. Influenza, about 9 out of 10 times, and something nastier, like SARS, the other times. The reasons the flu pours forth from China like clockwork are not that complex, agriculture, poor farmers breathing virus rich dried chicken or pig feces dust.

We had the 2019 Chinese flu. As expected.

China had protests against the Dictatorship and brutality of the CCP. That stopped, instantly, when a fresh plague burst forth from the exact location, within yards, of a biological warfare lab known to be experimenting on exactly the fresh plague's type of Coronavirus.

If it had been any time in the billions of years from the creation of the Solar System, other than the exact month that pressure from the successor to the CCP paid for Obama/Biden crime families was hurting Xi's minion's profits, AND Xi was facing protests against his brutal actions not just in Hong Kong, but beginning in Mainland Communist China, cities like Wuhan, then Covid-19 would easily be believed to be typical.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/talk-your-twi tter-mob-find-out-if-covid-vaccine-right-you

Political rant above.

Little is known yet about the real effects of the one (P) vaccine, but the Propaganda Machine, which last month said the vaccine was a lie by Trump, ( despite months of actual news on several of them in Israeli & not Dem run Alternative American reporting. ) And ran first page letters/rants from D-Leaders on how they would NEVER take a Trump Vaccine! ( as though Donald had a secret lab where he used the children Just Joe sniffed as lab rats )

And in just milliseconds, the Propagandists switched to "everyone must take the Biden Vaccine or be forbidden to travel outside their basements" & " Any questions about the Biden Vaccine ( currently being shipped all over on the orders of, and promise kept, by the Bad Orange Man ) are Heresy! Obey! "

And, naturally, Cuomo had another God Emperor of Leftkind press conference where "the first health care worker got the Cuomo Vaccine on live T.V. Zoom show." Comments on the incredible bravery and indifference to a vaccination of the human prop/ actor required!

I'm not an anti -vaxxer. Nearly the opposite end of that spectrum. Also quite Olde School Liberal/Libertarian, so feel free to rant on how you ain't gonna let yourself be forced into washing your hands after wiping your butt or handling raw bat meat. ( I won't eat with you, or shake hands, but I support your right to be silly ; ) )

I've been on the list after nurses and hair dressers for months. I'm preparing for a quarantine period if I get sick from it, and because I don't qualify for First Wave, I may have time to choose between different vaccines. I'm watching a few factors.

Severity of side effects and odds of getting an infection from the vaccine. (2 separate issues )

Method of immunity triggers. How does it tell your immune system to attack the Coronavirus, and how narrow a genetic drift it covers?

This may be the first time I get a choice on the subject. Every other vaccine package I've had, from the yearly flu shot to the "nasty African & Indian & Fertile Crescent bugs vaccine for working in Bumfukistan" has been the one available after years of competition and decrees by bureaucrats.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Starting a pool on Tpehak's take on this!

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/new-chinese-stud y-confirms-covid-19-attacks-testicles-may-affect-m ale-fertility
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/california-leads -western-us-worst-hit-region-vaccine-rollout-begin s-live-updates

Keep in mind this site is professionally alarmist, provocative, and biased. What else? ; )

Good article.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is Cuomo carrying through with his claim to independently approve the vaccine before his loyal subjects get it?
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, December 15, 2020 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the doubts Emperor Cuomo expressed can be filed under lies told to hurt Trump, which he considers an obstacle in his path to Holy Emperor of Man. Or President. Hard to tell with pathological scum.

In any case, any fears he was trying to Amp up are now to be forgotten. Media lies will now be that Biden is our savior who gave us salvation from the Trump Plague.

Unless the SHTF & Trump is reelected, then expect the anti-vaxx crud to escalate.

Then alt-(not fake) news will have lists of quotes contradictory on the subject.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 05:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Masks!

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/12/do- masks-work-2.php
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 07:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not in that study is the fact that using a Ma Duce to enforce Social Distancing splashes potentially dangerous fluids more than six feet. So it's more dangerous than a Samurai sword wielded by a four year old.

As you'd expect.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The article makes an excellent case for getting the vaccine, though.

Mask? Fu(k you, I'm vaccinated.

And, frankly, that's what the White House should have said here. "Kiss my ass, I've already recovered from the virus, so I have antibodies in my system. I don't NEED a mask, because I CAN'T carry the virus."

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=melania+childrens+hospit al&ia=web
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Ebutch
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Song: Take This Mask & Shove It https://youtu.be/xHCaECsY_rs

(Message edited by ebutch on December 16, 2020)
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So it looks like coronavirus is nice contraceptive.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Basically masks help to shoot the virus higher in the air so it covers bigger area around infecting more people. No wonder why masks make coronavirus spread faster.

(Message edited by TPEHAK on December 16, 2020)
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here’s hoping all those non-maskers weed out quickly enough to hasten our journey back to some sort of normal.

It’s a good time to be in a business where you seldom meet folks face to face and to live on the beach.

Weird times.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, the mantra Today is "The vaccine probably won't keep you from spreading the out of control pandemic, so masks, social distancing, & hand washing must continue."

I'm all on board with washing your hands, and further, I'd really appreciate if more showered & washed the rest of their bodies.

I'm also on board with masks. Make the facial recognition software work for it.

And, what the heck, let's encourage anti social spacing. ( see washing above )

But ignorance & fear mongering obviously inspire the idiocy that getting vaccinated won't help reduce transmission. Sure, if a sick person sneezes on your vaccinated face, and someone not vaccinated licks your face before you can Wash it, then, yes, they can get sick. ( and depending on who & how you feel about licking, might be someone you like )

Otherwise, why bother? This is "you are idiots and we can lie all we want" stuff.

So, the lock downs Must Continue Until at least Next Fall! According to Today's New Normal Mantra.

Because Rich Politicians think you have no memory, and they must be right, because they're still in charge.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, the mantra Today is "The vaccine probably won't keep you from spreading the out of control pandemic, so masks, social distancing, & hand washing must continue."

And my response to anyone who tries to tell me that, if I've been vaccinated?

Kiss my ass.

I will also, once the vaccine becomes widespread (and not just for the elderly and the first responders), put that same statement on my company website, for my sound company. Let's make music! Let's do shows!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they just allow you to do as you please, it means they aren't In Control.

And for some people, that's a feeling they will murder many people to keep. Hundreds of millions last century.

Speculation, informed, would count every Coronavirus death for more than a year, as just part of the CCP score this century. They held the record in the 20th, and aren't giving up power, even if they have to murder everyone else. On the planet.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>Make the facial recognition software work for it.

My sense is that the iPhone is learning more about your face every time you open it. It's now got most my sunglasses and I think the mask will work shortly.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coca Cola tests COVID-19 positive

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-16-cocacola-te sts-covid19-positive-in-australian-parliament.html
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Tough to weed out non-maskers when the infection fatality rate among the not old or at risk folks is same as typical flu or less.

I've had half a dozen friends get it. All recovered quickly. Griz in Netherlands says his son had a prolonged recovery getting back to 100%.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.dailywire.com/news/gunshot-wound-victi ms-included-in-colorado-countys-covid-related-deat h-totals-report
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, December 16, 2020 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If they fabricated election results they can fabricate coronavirus statistics even easier.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/pfizer-closely-m onitoring-alaska-health-worker-after-serious-adver se-reaction-vaccine

I'd love to feel like a genius for making safe and obvious predictions that some people will have allergic reactions to Any Damn Thing. I don't, dang it, too honest. Anyone could have told you the same if they are not idiots.

It's simple. If one in one million has a severe reaction to a vaccine, then testing with one thousand people... The math ain't that hard.

I DO sympathize with the unlucky. Allergies are real, and you won't know until you react to something.

I'm not talking about school girl hysteria cases where groups hypnotize themselves to get sick because of a story of someone else getting sick. ( now, because of TwitFaceToc entire countries, not just a jr. High school, can have hysterical freak outs )

And don't bother pulling the sexist card for my use of "hysteria". Yes, I'm aware of the history of the word. Yes, I know it Will Offend some. Bite my shiny metal ass. I'm using it correctly, deliberately, and accurately.

These early allergic reactions aren't hysteria. It's human variation. Not just expected, inevitable.

Thanks to the Trump administration efforts, we'll have a choice of at least 2 vaccines of very different types. You may want one or the other, but you'll have to wait & see which. Not an option if you're a bleeding edge needer of protection like health and elderly care workers.

You can't know until they both have hit the beta testing stage, where the Pfizer vaccine really is today. If you're multi allergic, you may want to wait & see a few weeks.

And since production is still ramping up, unless you are a priority, waiting is both easy, and unavoidable. So chill. ; )
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I already made my choice - no vaccination.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have my reasons for getting immune to a disease that too many of my friends and relatives are at high risk/stakes of getting killed by. I'll get a vaccination. I get a yearly flu shot, too.

( Not going to argue numbers here, or dispute anecdotal / personal experience. People I know died. Others recovered. Condolences & congratulations to all similarly affected. )

And, I tend ( small L ) libertarian, so I support anyone's desire to temp Murphy & Darwin. Religious Freedom means you can mock the gods. I'm cynical enough to embrace voluntary eugenics. And, I'm not hypocritical enough to do stuff others think suicidal, like ride motorcycles, and tell others not to take risks. I admit I have a reputation as a safety nazi. ( Actually had the team shirt with that job Title on my college skydiving team ) See "Old, Bold, pilots" saying.

I'm not even that curious about anyone's reasons to not get the flu shot, or a hypothetical, so far, Covid-SARS-21 vaccine. Some will be rational, others...? If rational, great! If not, grow up.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://observer.com/2020/10/vaccine-side-effects- moderna-pfizer-johnson-astrazeneca/

I find the technology behind Moderna's mRNA vaccine fascinating.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna#COVID-19_v accine

There's no attenuated or killed virus involved. Just a copy of a unique-ish protein on the outside of the virus.

The basic premise is the same as almost all immunization, show the body a threat in a form that won't kill you, but triggers a ( appropriately paced & regulated ) production of killer/guardian cells. ( that won't kill you )

Protein coat vaccines with no actual infectious RNA ( or DNA ) that can't replicate, would be much safer, as far as getting the disease from the vaccine goes.

I'm less sure what the side effects are or might be, from mRNA technologies, however.
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Tpehak
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine this vaccine will release superpower.
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Zacks
Posted on Thursday, December 17, 2020 - 03:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could anyone have possibly seen this coming as soon as vaccines were authorized for use:
https://www.livescience.com/uk-coronavirus-variant .html
and other places...
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