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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 05:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Coronavirus suicided them.
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Crusty
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did Hillary change her name?
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Texas is open for business. I’m back at my normal haunts.


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Tpehak
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's quite calories right there.

It looks like the most iconic diner in the US Double R Diner from Twin Pics never closed for coronavirus


http://www.twedescafe.com/about-twedes.html

(Message edited by TPEHAK on May 02, 2020)
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo:

I missed this earlier:

>>>Is a bell curve supposed to be such a plateau? Sure looks like the curve has been flattened. Time will tell for sure.

Visual effects effects can stretch or compress a bell type curve. It can be a fat or skinny bell, still a bell.

One thing to note is that April 14th is when the CDC changed the rules on reporting to include any deaths that a doctor figured were "probable" cv deaths. Note how smoothly the curve up to April 15th is, then how it changed afterwards.

This is from ourworldindata.com:


The Kung Flu Daily Death Toll


>>> Anyone else notice that there is a dip every weekend? Reporting issue? Labs not working on weekends? I'm really not sure why, but there's about a 2 day dip, about every 7 days.

I did notice that. It seems to loosely correspond with weekends, but not on an exact 7 day period. Probably is lab related. Good catch.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, May 02, 2020 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just think the word “reported” influences the chart. It could be smoothed out but it’s placement, likely reflecting activity on both health care facilities and labs, seems logical.

(Message edited by Court on May 02, 2020)
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S2t_bama
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't think assumptions about a "bell curve" can be applied to a graph describing events occurring over time. A bell curve, or gaussian distribution describes a "population" at a single measurment. The x-axis is the possible range of values that any member of the population could have, such as height. The y-axis is the number of indviduals in the population that "have" that measured value (height). So, the peak or center of the "bell curve" is generally the average value if the distribution of possible heights is "normal".
It is not appropriate to apply assumptions about gaussian distributions to a time-course plot.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



true, it's just that the growth curve of any organism in a finite environment is going to give you a similar curve. That's not a gaussian distribution, that's some other...normal iirc.

https://stats.stackexchange.com/questions/49212/im portance-of-normal-distribution

yeah, normal. for values of normal.

keeping in mind that bell shape curve can show the number of, say, deaths until it reaches zero when there's nothing left alive, or some other different concept or number, it's remarkable how many different things show as a bell curve...

There's some debate in aerodynamics on bell shaped, vs. elliptical lift distribution curves on wings. There may be no physical shape anything like the plotted curves of lift, but the impact on stability, structural stress, and efficiency can be profound. A rectangular "hershey bar" wing does not have a rectangular lift distribution curve...
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 07:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/u-s -coronavirus-deaths-part-one-the-new-york-nursing- home-angle.php

I suspect that much less mandatory life restrictions would still have crashed the market, as many pros thought we were due for a correction. In fact, I am guessing that a much milder anti-social distancing response might have been worse for businesses at some levels. This was "emergency measures that will end" so there is incentive to hang on and ride it out.

Bars, for example, are screwed hard by shut downs. Zero income. But if instead of a shut down and promise of restart, we had mostly empty bars, the number of failures might be higher, as cash reserves emptied out trying to maintain normal SOP in an artificial depression.

Wall Street might not have had the year's gains drop out so quickly, but there also would have been less optimistic buying low, which may have been driving the rise.

Overall, things may have fallen slower, but also recovered much slower if the politicians had acted calmly, methodically, slower, and not panic over reach and quick power plays.

A previous example is the 55 mph speed limit, which was NOT what the President requested. Nixon wanted a temporary 45 limit to save fuel during the Arab oil revenge for our supplying Israel weapons to defend themselves. He intended a temporary, painful, measure that would time out as the crisis eased. However an Enemy Congress, desperately hating Dick, refused, then made it 55, and that hammered the economy and civil liberties for Many years, as Congress used the speed limit and Federal funding as a club to beat the State's rights mostly to death.

Analogy, what do you think?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/u-s -coronavirus-deaths-part-two-the-andrew-cuomo-angl e.php

If your Governor has a D after their name, your odds of dying from CCP-CORONAVIRUS are much higher.

You can break that down differently. It's bad...
To live in a city. On the coast in a city. High population density towns. Take public transportation. Have major public transportation in your community. Be a tourist town for Chinese or Europeans. Be a magnet for illegal immigrants. Etc.

Not ALL reasons for a much higher chance to die are directly related to Democrat Party Rule. Just a lot.

Basically, if it's a goal of the Green Newd Eel, it's going to kill you sooner. Life will be more expensive, shorter, and less fun under D rule.

That's proven now.
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Tpehak
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

U.S. Saw Its Deadliest 24 Hours Last Week

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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, May 03, 2020 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Green Nude Eel
Sounds like a streaker's pecker on St. Patrick's Day.

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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bell-shaped, yes.

I wonder though, if the the measured value is deaths, and the population is a string of discreet time intervals, days, the range of x-axis values being the day dates of the pandemic, and the number of individuals who died on each particular day the measured values. Might be interesting to see how that plots out.

It's an odd way of thinking about a population consisting of discreet time intervals, but it may well hold just like any other population of discreet entities.

But that's not what we're talking about re the bell-shaped curve re the death rate. That's just like noting the horizontal asymptotic shape of the cumulative death toll plots with its inflection point and geometric characteristics common to such curves bounded by lower and upper limits..

(Message edited by Blake on May 04, 2020)

(Message edited by blake on May 04, 2020)
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 12:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The data tamperers are being challenged in Pennsylvania. Good on the coroners!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/pa-removes-200-d eaths-from-state-coronavirus-count-as-questions-mo unt-about-reporting-process-accuracy/ar-BB13a4XF
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bell shaped curves are everywhere!

It could be an artifact of the choice of scales by the author. The Bell tells the tale well.

IQ, height, probability will like vanilla ice cream, lift distribution on a Horton flying wing, yo mamma jokes on tv over time... All graph as bell curves. If you want to.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yo momma is so fat she wears a Kuiper belt.

I just blew the curve : )

Or I’m an outlier.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/coronavirus-updates- italy-cautiously-emerges-worlds-longest-lockdown/s tory?id=70484662

Dec 27 in Paris...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine that...seems I was saying just that, earlier in this thread. "This thing has been wandering the globe un-checked for at least 4 months".

And I was told that was foolish, there was no way it has been out that long.

Hmmm.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For me it looks more like a boob rather than belly
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Imagine I have developed cure for coronavirus. What would you be willing to pay to me for 1 dose of this cure?
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's your life worth? I'm pretty sure you'll be happy to give it to me with some persuasion. Where's my copy of the Marquis? Ah! Here we go! Crimes of Passion. Let's see...chapter... Hmm, hot wires, blowtorch, yep, ooh, that's nasty... And... Yep.

Pretty sure you'll feel quite cooperative and generous. You'll be hailed as a great guy!
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, I'm with you. Earliest is probably early December. A hypothetical Chinese student or worker, Silicon valley or LA. If they'd returned to China then they didn't leave handy samples, just victims.

As I said before, bloody dirty market, poor lab practices, or deliberate act of war, it doesn't matter except for foreign policy. The actions of The Chinese Communist Party to CYA certainly sped the spread.

Proving it was deliberate act of war is both impossible and unnecessary. Chinese government would lie out of necessity and habit. No matter what actually happened or they deliberately do. They deny anyone broke a nail @ Tienamam square. They already deny any blame at all & blame the U.S. Military for giving China Pooh's Breath.
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would start selling it $10000 per one cure and see how it goes. I need to find the best price to maximize my income. Too low and my income will be low, a lot of people will buy it for cheap and will not be sick again, too high and people will not buy it and prefer to die and I will have less clients causing my income is low again.


(Message edited by TPEHAK on May 04, 2020)
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you take the right dose of cyanide, you'll never have to worry about Wuhan virus ever again.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

9mm FMJ is running about $0.18/rd these days...
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^^ if you can find it. I've only seen higher online, and it's pretty much wiped out down here on the panhandle of FL.... but there are more stores yet to scour.... if you have a good online source, feel free to post to pm... much appreciated....
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Blake
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brookshires grocery in Kilgore, Texas this morning:

$1.99/lb brisket.

I'll resume pseudo-veggie regime when it's gone. Darrell is sure to get his share.

They even had TP in stock.

Meat aplenty:



Meat aplenty





More meat aplenty





Poultry APlenty too
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, May 04, 2020 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Israeli lab says they have reached a coronavirus antibody breakthrough, will begin mass production

https://www.theblaze.com/news/israeli-lab-announce s-coronavirus-antibody?utm_content=buffer346c2&utm _medium=referral&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign= fb-glennbeck&fbclid=IwAR16aCxAKUCrjtrPhV2sz4b4wHOq 6hhPX5dt76K1l-GIkQcO-rrem_HcH4M
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 12:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

373 asymptomatics...

https://us.cnn.com/2020/05/04/us/triumph-foods-out break-missouri/index.html
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Fireboltwillie
Posted on Tuesday, May 05, 2020 - 08:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell, thanks for the info!
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