| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
If there is, it’s likely that it’ll be pigs. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27321134/ | ||
| 86129squids |
That gets back to something I read a while back that stated the origin of the COVID19 bug was from a newly built pig pen, which had displaced some bat habitat. The virus jumped from bats via the pigs consuming bat waste, then to humans via pigs being slaughtered and eaten by humans. I've not followed those theories much since. Who knows... | ||
| Crusty |
And thus we now know the origins of the term Bat Shit Crazy! | ||
| Aesquire |
I think it's just alliterative, honestly. Bats to pigs to people? Not as likely as accidental release from a lab testing bat Coronavirus with known quality and give a damn problems. Your choice odds vs. Deliberate release. The difference between accidental and deliberate release is whether or not the President should offer a reward for the head of Xi Jinping. As opposed to simply offering tax credits to industries we want to manufacture domestically. Military and government computers/phones/electronics ( without Chinese back doors ), medical supplies and drugs, etc. THAT should be done no matter the cause of 2019s pandemics. ( 2, flu & Pooh's Breath, iirc ) . I'm not totally sold one way or another on where on the curve we are, as far as infections and fatalities go. That centrist politically biased editorials appear to be optimistic and leftist biased hysterically pessimistic is obvious. I'm trying NOT to let my personal bias and hopes influence my rating of the editorials. And remember, these are ALL editorial articles, not real medical reports, there's a filter, even if it's a normal dumbing down for civilians. (Message edited by Aesquire on April 25, 2020) | ||
| Aesquire |
Government response.... https://9gag.com/gag/aZyq0M3 | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/cou rage-its-in-short-supply.php | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2020/04/ 25/this_pandemic_is_over_lets_stop_the_economic_su icide_and_get_back_to_work_490025.html | ||
| Tpehak |
Economic did not kill itself. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Yep. | ||
| Crusty |
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| Aesquire |
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/a-r eport-from-the-front-lines.php | ||
| Gregtonn |
Anyone else think Tpehak is a bot? G | ||
| Aesquire |
Not a well written one, no.  | ||
| Aesquire |
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/04/t he_red_death_and_other_catastrophes.html I just got the news of the decision to postpone the 49th annual SCA international event in PA from this July to next year. The reason, obviously, ( if only because I post it on this thread  ) Plague. I'm unhappy, but understanding. 20 plus years working this event as a bottom level first aid guy, I appreciate the difficulty of disease control in a high density camping environment without easy access to running water and sewage. There's a literal handful of permanent structures with actual sinks with running water to wash up at... For 10,000+ people. ( 14,000 A few years back ) A re-creation of a War camp at a major siege of a city or major battle, we KNOW how many times in the past Plague, Cholera, etc. has swept cities and camps and shaped History. Too bad this isn't covered in grade school... Pity, I know I would have been more interested in History if my teacher was allowed to tell us how horrible it was to have an entire army surrounding a city with uncontrollable diarrhea, no flush toilets, and overflowing slit trench facilities. We, ( mostly the organizers, who do the groundwork years in advance ) battle the fates in multiple ways. Thousands of porta johns are rented, and daily cleaned. ( we use so many that the porta John company stores them on site, after purchasing them with money from this one event. ) Many groups, like my household, bring & set up sinks and showers in our camps and encourage cleanliness. The running joke is "the middle ages, without the fleas". And many of us are serious about that. It takes serious work to avoid the mass casualty event that is common even today. UN encampments in Africa IN THE 21ST CENTURY! all too frequently experience serious, mission killing, outbreaks. Not refugee camps! Military bases with American funded ( mostly ) international modern gear. Just wanted to give a little perspective. | ||
| Tpehak |
1% of humanity can die. Here is the most close research https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.18 .20070912v1.full.pdf | ||
| Hootowl |
“literal handful ” I think you mean figurative handful. Unless they are very small... | ||
| Blake |
100% of humanity will die. | ||
| Court |
That is an accurate . . . . 100% accurate . . . Statement. | ||
| 1313 |
We're ALL gonna die! Eventually... | ||
| Tpehak |
That sucks | ||
| Aesquire |
"You sir, are correct! We are all mortal beings." _ Sir Wulfstan | ||
| Aesquire |
"But, our mortality is the one thing that unites us all." _ Sir Wulfstan | ||
| 86129squids |
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| Blake |
Doctors talk about cv data and question the stay at home policy going forward: https://youtu.be/xfLVxx_lBLU | ||
| Blake |
Part two... https://youtu.be/zb6j7o1pLBw | ||
| Blake |
Dr. Birx interview: https://youtu.be/yA1hBTpXvb4 | ||
| Ratbuell |
So...somebody posted here that the Democrats are the "ones who are following the science here" concerning CV19. Of course they are. There IS no science to date. And that, is the Left's forte. 1. we're guessing at CFR 2. we're guessing at IFR 3. we're not "treating" patients with the virus, we're simply keeping them comfortable and trying not to catch what they've got 4. we're showing no desire to learn the infection rate - we told everyone to "stay the hell home". What useful data does THAT produce? 5. to date, we're not testing the public at large - which would prove the actual infection rate 6. we have zero reference to viral load when it comes to the scare tactics of the media 7. we have zero reference to SURVIVAL RATES when it comes to the scare tactics of the media You can watch the videos with Brix (who, incidentally, I wouldn't trust to keep my pug safe and healthy if it came to it), and see her ADMIT to those facts. "We don't know"..."we're still learning"... Guesswork...and fear...is the Democrat mantra. Keep 'em scared, and you can keep 'em under control. God forbid actual FACTS get out. Open the economy back up, and let's get back to work. If you're scared...stay the hell home. Or, wear a mask when you go out. But...don't force ME to stay home. Don't force ANYONE to stay home. If they want to? Let them. But don't force anyone. Not anymore. Time to get back to being a free society. | ||
| Blake |
One of the best articles on the issue I've seen. It addresses the California antibody study naysayers as follows:
Same article to which Patrick had linked earlier. edited for spelling/auto-correct errors (Message edited by blake on April 30, 2020) | ||
| Blake |
Joe, It's Dr. "Birx", but you're in good company, the good General was referring to her in one of the briefings last week as "Brix" which sounds like "Bricks". | ||
| Ratbuell |
Sorry Blake..fat-fingered the keyboard. The rum had nothing to do with it.  I read the same study. Until we test everyone - or at least, a representative sample, instead of just the people with symptoms that LOOK like COVID - we'll have no idea how much of this is out there. I still hold that there's enough of it running around, and NOT killing people, that the actual fatality rate will be sub-1% once we actually do the science...instead of just pushing the horror. Unlock the economy, and let's get on with it already. |
