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     Aesquire |
Prepared to inject roses with vaccine so they don't cough their petals off? Or prepare for the mutated corn syrup taking over the town like a classic Steve McQueen movie? There'd be a big run on hording CO2 fire extinguishers! Here's social commentary from a web cartoon writer. language warning! https://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/5246/ | ||
| Aesquire |
Oh, wait, what if Tpehak is really Coronavirus trying to infect our minds?!!!! Don't get close to her posts!!!! Stay Six posts away!!! | ||
| Sami |
Good news is that trees and plants don't need toilet paper. Seriously, I don't think trees and plants can get a human virus. They can become carriers if the virus lands on them, but they can't get sick from the human virus. There is no evidence that I am aware of that viruses can jump from one species to another. In fact, a virus is ''organ-specific'', meaning that once a host has a virus, not every organ is equally affected by it. A lung virus doesn't jump to the heart, or vice versa. | ||
| Tpehak |
Trees and plants spread pollen, if they got infected the pollen will infect the rest of the world real quick. Insects might got infected too and result will be devastating. | ||
| Sami |
If that's true, then why hasn't everyone died of AIDS? AIDS would be carried by pollen, no? | ||
| Sami |
Tom Barnett claims that a virus is an immune response so you can't catch a virus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaclYxjmsxo | ||
| Ratbuell |
Didn't spend much time awake in biology class, didja? Viruses attack certain types of cells. COVID attacks respiratory cells - lungs. Plants...don't have lungs. Therefore...they won't contract COVID. If a host does not have the type of cell (receptor) that the virus specifically can invade, the host is not in danger. Insects may have lungs, but unless they have the same cellular makeup as humans (which they don't, or they'd be...human) they can't carry it either because the virus cannot attach itself to the host. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/2004 07131453.htm From the article: }the virus acts in a highly selective manner, and that it is dependent on certain human cells in order to spread and replicate | ||
| Zacks |
I can't believe I'm killing brain cells reading an argument if a tree can get AIDS... | ||
| Tpehak |
Coronavirus attacks lungs cells but it can be cultivated not only in lung cells. | ||
| Aesquire |
Oh, that's not an argument. It's a fantasy RPG beating on Trolls.  YES. viruses DO jump species. Almost all the flu epidemics from China ( and elsewhere, China isn't the only place on Earth, Ever, to have pre-medieval farming conditions.. ) are from pigs, chickens, and bats. ( Monkeys, AIDS, Ebola, etc. ) Bugs and rodents carry viruses even if it doesn't kill them. ( quickly ) The virus reproduces, taking over and killing cells as it multiplies, but slow enough to spread far & wide. Arguably, many viruses are BETTER at infecting rats than humans since it doesn't kill them as fast. With the Bubonic plague, it's flea/rat borne. So it's hanging out in the fleas & rats, who get sick, and instinctively travel to escape... and the fleas move on to new hosts. And while you argue about dubious statistics too soon to be stable and in many cases from untrustworthy sources, consider that well accepted knowledge may be wrong. https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg17223184-00 0-did-bubonic-plague-really-cause-the-black-death/ # It's most common that intestinal viruses in feces crosses to humans from birds, etc. When the feces dries, blows around as dust, gets in the lungs, then into the bloodstream. It's not necessarily true that a lung virus is a lung virus... what is a tummy bug to a pig can be a breathing problem for a human. Or attack the heart. And viruses mutate quickly, having no DNA redundancy. ( with the possible exception of man made mutations, but I don't know how that's supposed to work in detail. ) | ||
| Sami |
Is there evidence that coronavirus comes from animals? Or that it can jump between species? | ||
| Hootowl |
Sigh. Plants and insects do not have lungs. Coronavirus receptors are only good for lung tissue. | ||
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| Aesquire |
Coronavirus receptors are only good for lung tissue. Mostly but not completely so. I'd have to look it up for Coronavirus specifically, & You may be correct for today's strain. But viruses may cheerfully attach to a variety of cells. Some to only one type, yes. Others to, say, ovary and pancreas... And, insects don't have the exact same type of tissue in their air tubes as your lungs, but a virus might be happy with the saliva producing cells, which is one reason insect transmitted diseases are fairly common. ( ticks & Lyme disease? ) Although most insect transmitted diseases in the U.S. are mosquitoes biting an infected person and passing it to the next in a somewhat disgusting way.  s there evidence that coronavirus comes from animals? Or that it can jump between species? Yes. One of the reasons the flu and -19 are, or can be, so deadly is a virus well adapted to a critter host, doesn't quickly go wild and kill them, may be fast and nasty when it jumps species. | ||
| Tpehak |
2000 infected died in USA last 24 hours. So right now more than 2000 infected people in USA are doomed and will die within next 24 hours and there is nothing we can do about it. | ||
| Ratbuell |
According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), there were 2,813,503 registered deaths in the United States in 2017. That's 7,708 deaths per day, in 2017. Your point? That year, heart disease killed 1,774 per day. Cancer killed 1,641 per day. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/282929 | ||
| Court |
Trepak: You. . . . My friend . . . Are: Choose as suits you. . . 1). Terribly ill informed 2). Poorly educated 3). Lacking the most basic common sense and intuition 4). Trolling 5). As full of shit as a Christmas goose 6). Pulling our collective legs I’m going with 6. . . . None of the others could explain it. (Message edited by Court on April 09, 2020) | ||
| Blake |
Tpehak, Who's motor-bike is this?  | ||
| Ratbuell |
Court? I thought we WERE friends...that hurt, man....  | ||
| Court |
Oh.....quit yer whining. . .hahahaha | ||
| Hootowl |
Pat, yes, today’s strain, and the ones that cause MERS, and SARS. The kind of coronaviruses that can invade nose and throat tissues are not as lethal as the lower respiratory variety. | ||
| Aesquire |
The viruses that attack nervous system tissue are the ones that scare me. The brain-blood barrier.... Those are the fast ones. Not days but minutes. (Message edited by Aesquire on April 09, 2020) | ||
| 86129squids |
Get Hugh on this- IIRC I've seen that bike at BITA. I may be wrong. | ||
| 86129squids |
Court- good God I love your exposition. | ||
| Tpehak |
Tpehak, Who's motor-bike is this? That's TPEHAK's motorcycle https://www.customfighters.com/forums/showthread.p hp?t=137710 (Message edited by TPEHAK on April 09, 2020) | ||
| Whisperstealth |
Tpehak, I just don't buy your whole shtick. You may have your ducks in a row, but something's off about you. Something smells, and my crap detector pings real hard with you. In your profile, you said your top speed on two wheels is 70mph. So, your telling me you built that bike, are a motorcycle enthusiast, and you've never been over 70mph?! That simply does not compute with me. | ||
| Tpehak |
The maximum speed limit here near Seattle is 60 mph, but there is a road east from here with 70 mph speed limit, so I was doing 70 mph right there. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Um.... what? | ||
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