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Crusty
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Sifo
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just heard that Michigan is closing bars and restaurants at 3:00 today. They shut schools after Friday because as of Friday we had gone from 2 to 12 cases. Friday to Monday we have doubled from 12 to 24, again to 48, and a few more to 53. I know it doesn't sound like that much, but exponential growth gets out of control in a big hurry. Illinois is about a day ahead of Michigan in case numbers.


Remember, you have to balance...
1) Keeping the economy working.
2) Keeping the health care system from being over run.
3) Containing the virus.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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H0gwash
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I totally agree that the panic is worse than the virus, people legitimately want news from anywhere about what is happening around them.

In the 1st amendment exception for yelling FIRE in a crowded theater, it seems to me the lie that there is a fire is the central issue, and I don't think that quite applies to coronavirus situation.

Thoughts, please.
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Ebutch
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Ebutch
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seattle ground zero already closed restaurants.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 01:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While I totally agree that the panic is worse than the virus, people legitimately want news from anywhere about what is happening around them.

In the 1st amendment exception for yelling FIRE in a crowded theater, it seems to me the lie that there is a fire is the central issue, and I don't think that quite applies to coronavirus situation.

Thoughts, please.


Well, I've certainly been saying prepare, but don't panic. I'm not clear who you think is doing the equivalent of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater. I'm just not seeing it. Yes, people want news about what's going on. I think that leads to having the 24/7 news channel on 24/7. If you do that, you will hear bad news 24/7, even under normal circumstances. In this case, it will be almost all bad news about the beer virus. That is going to make some people feel panicky, even when no one is telling them to panic. The videos I've been posting IMO, have some pretty good information about what is going on. He's telling people to not panic though. Prepare, yes. Panic, no.

My guess would be that people who are panicking are listening to the wrong news, not understanding the news they hear, or are simply panicky people. There may be a few in the middle of a hot zone who have done nothing to prepare for anything. EVER. That could make you feel kind of panicky right now, but it's a very small percentage of the population.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nashville shuttered all its bars, several restaurants have voluntarily closed. Shit on a stick. Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Off today, on call tomorrow... tick tock.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 02:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

more crappy legislation from our house democrats
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 02:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As of 5pm today, the People's Republik of Maryland has mandated that all bars and restaurants be closed (carryout is OK but no in-house seating); gyms and movie theatres are also closed.

I think the "fire" analogy applies to situations like this - IS this an overreaction? The next article down in the paper after Governor Hogan's announcing the closures, was "First three Maryland coronavirus cases have healed completely and are OK to return to normal activities". Those three people being a couple in their seventies, and an unconnected person in his late 50s, who had been on a cruise in Europe.

How dangerous IS this thing? That's the answer we don't really have yet. And people see states being shut down, businesses being shut down, schools being shut down (our state school system, as well as state offices, Motor Vehicles, et al, were shuttered on Friday afternoon)...people see all that and they start to freak out.
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Sami
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing to fear but fear itself. Watching the news creates unnecessary fear and stress.

You Asked: Is It Bad for You to Read the News Constantly?
https://time.com/5125894/is-reading-news-bad-for-y ou/

A recent survey from the American Psychological Association found that, for many Americans, “news consumption has a downside.”

More than half of Americans say the news causes them stress, and many report feeling anxiety, fatigue or sleep loss as a result, the survey shows. Yet one in 10 adults checks the news every hour, and fully 20% of Americans report “constantly” monitoring their social media feeds—which often exposes them to the latest news headlines, whether they like it or not.

Of course, many people feel it’s important to stay informed. And it’s understandable that news you find concerning could produce stress and anxiety. But recent changes to the way everyone gets their news—coupled with the style of news that dominates today—may not be good for mental and even physical health.

“The way that news is presented and the way that we access news has changed significantly over the last 15 to 20 years,” says Graham Davey, a professor emeritus of psychology at Sussex University in the UK and editor-in-chief of the Journal of Experimental Psychopathology. “These changes have often been detrimental to general mental health.”
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 03:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So for today's PSA:

CHANGE ALL YOUR PASSWORDS.

A coworker got a text from her home-from-closed-schools-teenager. "Hey mom, can I use your card to buy this thing I'm looking at...?"

Bored family members will buybuybuy...so lock down those accounts ASAP!!
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/03/d id_china_panic_the_world_and_steal_our_wealth_with _a_common_cold.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Change your passwords"

Funny, and wise.

Grocery store trip this morning. Lot full. Store crowded, but polite. They already have had ( for years now ) germ wipes at the indoor cart rack to wipe handles, etc.

Grocery store stocking nearly as fast as the customers take it off the shelves, today. Frozen pizza nearly gone. Frozen vegetables with big gaps in the freezer, but unpopular items, like Brussel sprouts, full.

The fake meat freezer was untouched. : )

Limit 2 boxes on power/nutrition bars. Other limits on items to try and keep the panic buying under control.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 04:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


checkmate
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2020-3-15 -manhattan-contrarian-tips-for-dealing-with-the-co ronavirus

Not satire.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.city-journal.org/homeless-coronavirus

My big public health worry.

The city of Rochester and the larger surrounding suburbs have a homeless problem, like any city, but We don't have the density of homeless locally, ( that they do in 'Frisco or Seattle ) because winters kill them off or they migrate. ( truth can be unpleasant ) It's just not as visible here.

Still, because of multiple factors, ( mental illness, poverty, difficulty of hygiene, lack of preventive health care, age ) all city's homeless population are at high risk.
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Steveford
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Aesquire
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H0gwash
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I thought last week of not taking my helmet off or opening the face shield while grocery shopping but thought against it...
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Tpehak
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 09:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ATGATT
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Gregtonn
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heard at the bar tonight:

"Since there haven't been any sports on for two days I started talking to my wife. She seems pretty nice."

G
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Sifo
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2020 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/covid 19_the_numbers_tell_the_story.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/the_n umbers_story_continues.html

Take all numbers with skepticism.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What.

the.




Maintain and observe proper sanitation.

As a professional server, AKA a waiter, it's time to hunker down.

Look after our musicians. Too few people know or understand how important they are.

Music doesn't come from trees, neither money. Music has more value than money,
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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 04:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo,

I have yet to watch one of your videos featuring the creepy looking guy. I will tell you, we are enjoying life as usual where I live.
We even hug, shake hands and kiss cheeks

G
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/covid 19_the_numbers_tell_the_story.html

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/the_n umbers_story_continues.html

Take all numbers with skepticism.


Interesting, but I wouldn't put ANY faith in the data from China. Their cases were growing exponentially when suddenly infection just stopped. It simply doesn't work that way. Something is drastically wrong with their numbers. I understand Iran has big issues with the data they claim too. Satellite imaging shows them digging mass graves, who's capacity far exceed the state numbers of dead. Do you believe what they say, or what they do?

The US is a mixed bag. We shut down incoming flights from infected countries early. No doubt, that helped to slow things down here. Lack of testing also slowed down reporting of infection, making the data look good. That just means that we don't really know where we stand. Testing still isn't where it needs to be. Time will tell.

Sifo,

I have yet to watch one of your videos featuring the creepy looking guy. I will tell you, we are enjoying life as usual where I live.
We even hug, shake hands and kiss cheeks

G


No problems. As I said though, that is willful ignorance. It's a choice we all make at times. The videos are readily available for anyone who wants to see the information though. They are easily ignored by those who choose otherwise. They have lots of good data, changing daily, and I figured I would make them easy to find for anyone wanting to see them.

Hey, I went to visit my mom yesterday too. I did the same. I will probably not put her at risk like that as the virus gets into our area though. I wish you the best through this. I hope you are right about it. The data right now though, says you aren't. God bless.
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can we knock it out? May be:

My zinc phosphate should be here tomorrow. Now to get some Chloroquine 500 Mg tabs.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2020 - 10:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No problems. As I said though, that is willful ignorance.

Actually no, it is not.
That's life.
Do yourself a favor and live it.

G
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