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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Red tape to keep you ignorant. Been here for a while. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/10/us/coronavirus- testing-delays.html
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Big Ears music festival here in Knoxville is cancelled. A weekend of international performers, one of the best. I'd say Bonnaroo is next.

Given that we BW'ers are from all over, post up if you or someone you know picks up this bug. I'd like a first-person perspective how one might ride out a bout with this crap.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You've GOT to be kidding me. For a self-proclaimed man of God, he's gonna have a LOT to answer for.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/11/814550474/missouri- sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-for-selling-fake-cor onavirus-cure
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad, If they are talking colloidal silver, there is an untested chance it may work. Zinc gluconate through the nasal may help too. Also not tested against Pooh's Breath yet. My worry about Jim is not about the flesh, but the effect he has had on people's spirituality. Best thing he could do is to start 1000 people with documentation on a daily dose of the magic silver juice. If they stay virus clean for 2 years, I will believe him.

(Message edited by ourdee on March 12, 2020)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's some dude selling "Miracle Water" every night on TV, pretty much promises you that if you get this little plastic bubble with his special water in it, you will literally start getting giant checks in the mail.

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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those zinc remedies do slow the virus replication process, so taking them when you have a viral infection is a good idea.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 02:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gregtonn, I think you are wrong on this. I hope you are right, really, really hope you are right, but I think the sky pretty much is falling, in that this is much worse than this years flu.

What is the death toll for the Coronavirus in the US? 39? 40?
How many are/were infected? No one knows.
How many people have died from the flu? Thousands. Which is worse?

I am not engaged in willful ignorance, I am engaged logical thinking.

G
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

K-12 in Ohio are now on a 3 week "Spring Break"
Traffic was light this morning... gonna be next to none tomorrow.

I have my first Motorcycle safety class this weekend. I wonder how many people will show up.
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I get it, I'll start a separate documentary thread of my last ride till it gets me. I will need some places to over-night?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My take is still, that if you get it, it isn't an automatic "death sentence". We just don't know enough about the affected-versus-mortality ratio yet. How many people catch it, don't show symptoms, NEVER show symptoms...and simply burn it out? How many people had "the flu", never got checked, and simply got over it just like the flu?

I'm being alert...but we haven't gotten to SHTF status yet, I don't think. We just don't know enough about it yet.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I heard that our local COSTCO is limiting the purchase of TP and paper towels as of today.

I got an email from the school district today, here's an excerpt...

quote:

Large Gatherings (now through April 5th, or until new guidance becomes available)

Restrictions and/or cancellations may be placed on assemblies, performances and/or other gatherings where spectators and/or audiences are expected to be more than 100 people. Should this be necessary, information will be communicated. Decisions will be made on an ongoing basis as information becomes available.

Athletic competitions will follow the guidance of the Michigan High School Athletic Association (MHSAA) which as of 2:25 p.m. today (3/12/20) means all MHSAA winter tournaments are suspended, effective immediately and indefinitely, due to concerns related to COVID-19. View MHSAA updates and guidance at www.mhsaa.com/coronavirus.

Please review CDC Recommendations for Large Gatherings. Persons who are sick or displaying signs of illness should refrain from attending events. Attendees are asked to leave events if they begin to have symptoms of COVID-19, which include fever, cough, and shortness of breath. See CDC guidance on what to do when sick with COVID-19.

School-Sponsored Travel

All out of district, school-sponsored travel will be suspended until April 30th, or until new guidance becomes available. This includes professional conferences, academic activities requiring travel outside of the district, out of district field trips, and non-MHSAA athletic events. Travel regarding MHSAA athletics will follow guidance from that organization at this time.




There's speculation of closing early for an extended spring break.

I had a kid on the bus today saying her grandmother was in the hospital with it, not expected to last long. Suddenly the kids are talking about it on the bus. I assume it was discussed in school today.

I see sports events, at all levels are getting canceled.

Lots of stuff happening that I've never seen before. Someone seems to be taking this seriously.

My take is still, that if you get it, it isn't an automatic "death sentence". We just don't know enough about the affected-versus-mortality ratio yet. How many people catch it, don't show symptoms, NEVER show symptoms...and simply burn it out? How many people had "the flu", never got checked, and simply got over it just like the flu?

I fully agree that it's not an automatic death sentence. Far from it. Another unknown is people who die of pneumonia for unknown reasons. Those cases do happen, and I understand that they are not being tested. There's lots of unknowns with this.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 06:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well...they just closed Maryland.

State offices, schools, motor vehicles...all of it.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RD you're always welcome in Sugar Hill
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Ourdee
Posted on Thursday, March 12, 2020 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Matthew, I may take you up on that. I am watching the country lose their minds and waiting for them to level out.
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 03:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Feel free to stop by, RD. Not planning to roll down, but... seems like the best riding times might be coming up soon,

Standby.

JBH
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 06:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.city-journal.org/banning-single-use-pl astic-bags-covid-19

Shopped at Aldis yesterday, & reused a plastic bag I purchased from them.

Personally, at other stores, I usually buy the paper bag, pay the tax, and plan to recycle them into the atmosphere as smoke and CO2 to replenish the trees cut down. After I've used them up. ( I reuse bags until contaminated or torn, then recycle as available )

I don't use germ farm cloth eco-bags. I don't like food poisoning. Covid-19 is the least of your worries with them.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 06:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh, heck... here they are.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/03/the -great-toilet-paper-pandemic-of-2020-and-twip-prev iew.php
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 07:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WUHAN Patient #0 Is



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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our local markets have the old-style paper grocery bags available at both the regular checkout lines as well as the self-checkout.

I prefer the paper bags, because you can load them so they will stand up and stay in place in the back of the car.

Then I fold them up at home and they get used for all sorts of things. That sturdy brown paper is very handy for about a million things.

I usually grab a bunch of plastic bags every third or fourth trip to the store, because I REFUSE to pay for plastic bags to pick up dog poop. The bag size is helpful in this endeavor as I am always picking up OTHER people's dog poop that they carelessly leave behind. I justify the larger bag disposal with the fact that it contains about 4-5 deuces.
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Ebutch
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 07:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Send Her to Cuba Guantanamo For Quarantine NOW !!!!!!!!

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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Southpark's take on the last contagion, SARS!

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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 08:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

About 10 minutes before leaving for work this morning, I got an email saying that spring break is starting this weekend. No school again until April 5th... Maybe. Mandated by the Governor. Driving into work, the radio was talking about shortages of TP, paper towels, and hand sanitizer. Got to work and was told that the local Costco had empty shelves for those products. Food going fast. Got gas this AM at Sams Club (was planning to do that already, below 1/4), busier than normal in the AM. Overheard a conversation where a lady at a nearby pump said she had just gotten the last of the TP inside. I have an aid on my AM bus because I do special needs kids on that run. She hadn't heard about the school closings. Immediately bitched about Trump doing this and her lost pay. I told her that it was our Governor (D) that gave the order, and suddenly it was the right thing to do. Go figure... It's been an interesting morning. Lots of people are beginning to panic. Funny thing, but the video series I've been posting (OurDee posted the first ones) is discussing "Adjustment Reactions" in the latest one. I haven't watched the entire thing yet, but I'll post it anyway. If they aren't panicking yet where you're at, I would really suggest doing some basic preparations. Watching the beginnings of panic over the past 24 hours around here has been like watching a movie. It's good to not be a participant in that movie. Being informed before hand makes a huge difference. Stay safe out there folks!

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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny but true story:

I'm 20th in line to get into Costco. They open in 52 minutes.
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Tpehak
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is jungle out there.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm 20th in line to get into Costco.

Well tell us about the paper products and hand sanitizers...
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Sifo
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Up to 150 million Americans could get coronavirus: US projection

quote:

"Congress's attending physician told the Senate that he expects between 70 to 150 million people to eventually contract the coronavirus in the United States," Tlaib said.
...
The upper end of the projection is about 46 percent of the US population of 327 million people. By comparison German Chancellor Angela Merkel warned this week that up to 70 percent of her country's population could get the virus.
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He added that "all models are as good as the assumptions that you put into the model" and that with containment and mitigation the upper end of the projection could be avoided.

About 80 percent of coronavirus cases are mild, and the overall mortality rate is around one percent, according to the latest estimate provided by Fauci to Congress on Wednesday.

At the low end of the projection this would mean about 700,000 deaths. At the high end it would mean 1.5 million deaths.

Heart disease was the leading cause of death for Americans in 2018, with just over 650,000 deaths in 2018. The flu and pneumonia caused around 60,000 deaths.




Still think it's comparable to the flu?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2020 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, I do. Just my opinion.

Costco update: the cart corral is half empty and the line stretches around the building.
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