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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Kill this thread.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I generally retrack that stetement.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's simply a bitch. Me and mine have raised him. Time to grok the apostrophe.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get some rest.

Amd some love.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 02:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All is well.

Heading to bed.

(Message edited by 86129squids on January 21, 2020)
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have admittedly never been a dog person. The loss of my first childhood pet (a cat) is something that still gets to me. Burying a dog we had for sixteen years with one arm in the dark on a cold night was aweful.

Anyone with half a heart can tell if an animal is suffering or not. One would have to purposefully ignore the signs and feign ignorance otherwise.

After returning from a long trip for which we kennelled our dogs, our kitten was without his dogs for a night. He spent the entire night searching the house for them, aimlessly, making cooing sounds all the while. They certainly have their own state of consciousness.

My mother was first alerted of her cancer not by a medical professional...but a cat that incessantly clawed and bit at the area where it came closest to the skin. While it was a tough battle, it allowed her to live another nine years. Pets can often show insights and abilities we can't explain.

After four plus decades on this earth, I hit my first animal in a car just the other day. It was just a squirrel. While it made it across the street, I know it's crumpled up somewhere, dying now. Despite seeing roadkill on a daily basis, it kinda sucks to be the one who kills something needlessly.

Everyone is different, and some people are just @ssholes. Hopefully somebody, somewhere will care when we're gone.

Sorry for your news.

For what it's worth my girlfriend recently took in a stray pregnant dog. We've got a few new little pups teetering around clumsily. They're going to be hard to get rid of. Maybe I do like dogs. Heck, I recently put a male wolf spider in my hand to put outside and save from the cat. Maybe I just like to see things live instead of die these days...though I have been known to let the cat play with stink bugs until they expire.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad, I'm really sorry to read about this.

Thursday April 12, 2018 is when I had to put our Max down. He could make it down the hill in the back yard, do his business and would lay down but not able to get back up for hours, then couldn't climb the hill any more.

His hips were so bad we could hear them grinding.

We felt it was the merciful thing to do, but it wasn't easy.

I'm praying that you find peace with this situation.
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Marksm
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our condolences. We know they have shorter lives but it really sucks when they are cut even shorter by other causes. They just fill a place in your heart that you never knew was empty before.

We had to let go of our 6 yr old Mini Dachshund last November due to cancer. Was, and still is, hard. I miss that little critter. Her spirit was far too large for her small size.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Another day. Gonna take some time to wrap my head around this. Anyone here have experience with giving a dog chemo? I doubt we could go that route for the money, and I don't think it'd be fair to the dog. Very hard to say.

2020 is starting out pretty sucky. Oh well.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a six year old husky/keesh mix years ago who had a hole in her heart, pumped blood into her chest cavity. Lethargic, not eating, obviously not feeling good at all. Vet said they could evacuate the blood (surgery), but it could fill back up in a month...or an hour.

It came down to, did I want to expose the animal (my "kid") to that potential suffering, just to appease my neediness?

I asked Kayla (the dog) what she wanted to do, and we stared into each others eyes for over a minute. She put her head in my lap (I was sitting on the floor with her, holding her tight), licked my hand one time, and closed her eyes. She was ready. I held her tighter than I ever had when they gave her that shot, and bawled like a little girl when she stopped breathing - but I knew she was in a better place, and her pain was gone.

My coworkers are wondering why my eyes are tearing up now, as I type on my computer.

You'll make the right choice.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you all for your input. Thepak too, I get your views on this.

Hell, they're playing a great cover of 'Wish You Were Here" on WDVX now. Milk Carton Kids. This shit aint getting easy, nope.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What's eating at me now is the sheer normalcy of this day. Beautiful but cold outside. Filled up the bird feeders. Marcia's working on her crocheting stuff. D'Ogee is angling for a sunny spot from the window, on the bed, as usual. Planning a fried chicken dinner later, a Blackberry Farms recipe, chicken's been in buttermilk brine for 2 days. We'd planned to do it yesterday, but after I got back from the vet I didn't feel like cooking. We ordered Marco's pizza instead, they do a great job regardless.

We all know for certain about only two things. Death and taxes. I'll be OK one way or another, until the time comes. Already notified work that I'll probably schedule off for 4 days- the day prior, the day of, and two after.

Still waiting on a call to learn blood test and oncology results. God I'd love to hear this isn't his fate. Of course I've got two hands... wish in one, shit in the other.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I looked yesterday- didn't we have a dog thread not too long ago? I know a picture of my boy was posted here sometime.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 03:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This aint my first rodeo, not at all. Had many great dogs over the years, seen them all pass. A few in horrible circumstances. Hoping to make it as good as it can be for D'Ogee. Probably cook a big fish dinner, he loves fish. We'll see. Still plenty of time left, AFAIK.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick, loved your post. You're in for a ton of messy chaos and fun with the pups. See that they all get a good home if not yours.

My sis' birthday is today, she's become an "old crazy cat lady". Got two, one is strictly indoors, the second is in/outdoor cat. I think most everyone should have a critter. Birds and fish are the easiest, then cats. Dogs require work and commitment. SO worth it though.

One day I'd love to raise up a Basenji from a pup, teach he/she lure coursing. Check this out. I've had D'Ogee proven by an AKC judge to run lure course, but he's too old now.



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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's a local guy, a friend of mine.



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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



















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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've only had our pup since last March, but not long after getting moved into the new house, I stopped by the old place to do some cleaning. Walking in, it immediately didn't feel like home anymore. It wasn't that so many of our things had been moved. It was the emptiness of not being greeted by Cora. It hit like a ton of bricks.

Our dog trainer told me of a local vet who will come to your home to put a dog down. Will do it in your house or in the back yard, whatever suits you best. Far nicer than an office visit for sure.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Matthew. Joe, I'm already on that. Got a vet friend whom I've known for decades who's on standby.

I've really not considered it seriously, but chemo is an option. Apparently dogs don't suffer nearly as much, or at all from chemo treatments. I believe that'll be way too much $$$ to go that route. Anyone have experience with giving a dog chemo?

So far the worst part is simply me. Dealing with the emotions. D'Ogee is fine, to look at him. I can feel the lymph nodes under his chin getting bigger, however. Heading back to work this evening, been off for 3 days. Seriously looking forward to what I hope to be busy shifts, just gotta keep my shit together one way or another.

Another day...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't checked been on Badweb for a few days and I have to say I hate seeing a thread like this one...

Brad, You and your pup are in my thoughts.
I've never had a dog with cancer so I am pretty much no help... but you need to do what is right for you.

Once again, I'm really sorry to hear this.
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86129squids
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mark, good buddy, thanks. Scratching him as I type. Just talked with the vet, she's going to consult with her peers and UT veterinary clinic as to cost and prognosis with chemo. I can't not look at all options, damn the torpedos, damn the costs. Of course there's a limit.

Again, the worst thing so far is simply my head, what's running through it. Going to work will be a relief, a balm, a salve. D'ogee knows nothing about his condition. We do. I'll figure this out.

Oh, and Matthew- thanks again for posting the pics. The last one, basking in the sun, is about right.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brad:

I doubt canine chemo is that expensive. Have the surgery done stat, and get him on chemo. If you need help paying, we have you covered here, no doubt.

It's what friends are for.

Call the vet and giterdone.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+1
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I paid, while at Buell, $5,000 for Hobbes to go to the University of Wisconsin for a month. That was in 1997 and I’ve no clue what it is today.

I’ve had some amazing dogs and always had, as a goal, for them to spend everyday feeling happy and loved.

My favorite quote was an old Will Rogers quote .... “I don’t know if dogs go to heaven .... but, when I die, I want to go where they go”. Or words to that effect.

Dogs have been a gift in my life. We had to put a horse down last week and I hate seeing any animal go.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our cocker spaniel had a tumor on his face. We had it removed ($5k) and biopsied. It was not cancerous, so we didn’t have to do chemo. I don’t know what chemo costs, but they're just pills. He was already pretty old, and he made it another year before he started getting them everywhere. When he got to the point that we had to carry him outside for him to pee, we put him down.
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Tpehak
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow, that's expensive. Is there insurance for animals for such cases?
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2020 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pet insurance would have covered it. We didn’t have it.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2020 - 11:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I doubt canine chemo is that expensive. Have the surgery done stat, and get him on chemo. If you need help paying, we have you covered here, no doubt."

I appreciate that Blake, but that won't be necessary. Waiting for the vet to call back with chemo numbers, just to know all options, but I'm pretty sure it'll be way too much. Not looking for charity, but the thought is appreciated, friend. I've just got to man up and do the right thing.

Court, I appreciate that quote too. Be sure to check out that Jay Clark video I posted.
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86129squids
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2020 - 01:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The damndest thing is just me, dealing with my emotions. D'ogee is fine, for now. The anxiety I'm dealing with trying to determine the best path, and the dread of the inevitable, regardless of whether we do or don't go chemo.

He HATES being poked/prodded/stuck. Like I said, it took 3 veterinary women to barely hold this 30 pound dog Monday. When it's time to do the deed, I'm gonna have to find an oral medication to get the process started. Still on the learning front end of all this shite.

Again, thank you all for your input and kind words. One way or another, I'll figure it all out.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, January 23, 2020 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

By the way ..... Badweb is NOT charity.

We’ve a nearly 25 year history of being there for each other.

Badweb folks, starting with Chaly(I call him Chuck) saving my ass before some of you were born.

You make the best decision ..... no one knows the situation better than you. We trust you every step of the way.

If you need backup .... call and we’re there. Always have been.

Court
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