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Blake
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 11:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Friends lived near Glenwood Springs Colorado; mountain ridge there never had snow on it. Coal seam fire. Smouldering and smouldering.

Wierd.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, February 11, 2018 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It was New Castle, remembered thanks to the article Zac posted. Just south of Glenwood Springs IIRC.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've seen that one. I wonder if such fires inspired Tolkien to write about Mt. Doom in Mordor.

The Bible, too. Not the Burning Bush, but Hellscape imagery could well be from such fires. After all, when the bold explorers of your tribe come back and tell obviously tall tales of smoking valleys littered with animal and human bones from the noxious fumes, a sheep herding culture would consider that the opposite of paradise.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 12, 2018 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ebutch. One of my favorite quotes is from Buckaroo Banzai. "No matter where you go, there you are."

Or it could be from Confucius first. There's some disagreement.
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Airbozo
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've been to the New Castle fire. In fact there is a place close by used by kids for keg parties. At least that's as much as I remember... lol!
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Ducbsa
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But, everyone knows the oceans are rising! Must be Photoshop:

http://strangesounds.org/2018/02/venice-water-leve ls-are-the-lowest-since-records-began-with-some-ca nals-almost-completely-dried-up-and-it-has-not-sto pped-sinking.html
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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Ebutch
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 05:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The oceans are rising. They have been since the end of the last mini ice age. They haven't been rising as much.... as the Greenies say. Almost nothing is as bad as the Greenies say.

Venice just is vulnerable to any extreme. That's just a very low tide in a natural cycle. They get high tides too, & then we'll see more pictures of flooded plazas where they took pictures of flooded plazas before. And will again.

There is that whole slowly sinking because of wells pulling water out from under the islands business. That hasn't stopped & won't afaik.

So what this proves is you should plan your Venice vacation informed by tide charts. The same is true if you want to go where that is an attraction, like the Bay of Fundy.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 06:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_bore

Or you check the weather patterns for a snowmobile, boarding or ski trip.

I used to live with a radio shack weather cube to tell me where the soaring was likely. Countless miles driving from mountain to hill to mountain ( East coast mountains, hills, ? ) looking to fly. You don't want to go to Black Forest glider port when there's no wave. Or Malibu with no surf. Or waste your money hauling your sail board to the ocean when a storm ruins your fun.

Some people love to hike the Allegany mountains in winter. The ones that live check the weather in more depth than the evening news. Ditto Yosemite or........

Heck, when mountain biking we've pedaled into terrain that we realized was impassable on foot. Break a chain or taco a wheel and the risk of hypothermia and broken limbs approached One. Seriously. Ice over water over ice on old train beds. 10 miles out on a raised artificial ridge over snow filled flooded swamp. Ice clinging to the clickers, water over our bottom brackets over that, then just enough ice to slice your clothing frozen on top, but not thick enough to walk on. Isolated dry patches. Temperatures plunging. Our back trail freezing into razor sharp chaos.

Oh. Feces.

Not quite Donner Pass. But the realization that we'd put ourselves in actual danger was real as heck.

Five more miles of sunken trail, icy rain increasing, 25 miles of icing road where we were passing cars on the shoulder. Middle of an unpredicted ice storm that blacked out multiple counties. ( my parent's house for eight days ) Trees cracking and exploding. Power lines down. Cars off road or at a crawl.

Three lunatics on bicycles riding right through it with ice built up everywhere that wasn't moving. Finally got back to my friend's house long after dark and we were the fastest things on the highway by then.

Great story today. Almost corpses found in spring, then.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Within 20 years, future generations will never see water in Venice's canals, unless I can profit to the tune of many tens of millions of dollars.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2018 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No idea where to put this so it goes here.

Something doesn’t smell right.

http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/02/13/cops-r ush-to-stop-out-control-bmw-suv-after-gas-pedal-ge ts-stuck.html

1. Turn off the engine. Or...
2. Push on the brake pedal until your engine dies.

So he doesn’t want to apply the parking at 100 mph but he’ll let the police flatten his tires, and spin him out via pit maneuver. Right.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a runaway cruise control once. I pushed buttons, tapped brake, no joy. Stood on brake pedal as I went into a "not cloverleaf" expressway merge thing, ( called the Can Of Worms, locally ) and slid sideways all the way through the darn thing, then the cruise control disconnected. I pulled over and removed the linkage on the spot.

So I'm not certain that you can stop a car with just the brakes on a stuck throttle, but that's what the manufacturer says.

I bet someone looks at his computer to see the malfunction. Fly by wire throttles? Anything can fail.

Now, I'm assuming he's an incompetent and aggressive driver because of his car choice. If you are a Beemer driver... I may have to appologize to you. Maybe.
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Toro
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 01:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"So I'm not certain that you can stop a car with just the brakes on a stuck throttle, but that's what the manufacturer says."

Most manufacturer's would tell you to turn the vehicle ignition off.

Please continue with more fascinating stories about yourself Cliff.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Would they?? How about steering?

I should RTFM and check.

Sorry about your anger and dislike. I actually welcome a dissenting voice. These Conservatives may spend too much time with echoes, & no Progressive yet has shown moral courage, or sanity in discussions. They either hit and run with incoherent hatred like Julie and refuse to or are unable to make a rational argument. Or resort to the childish name calling logical fallacies, sometimes getting to the point where every post is an accusation that I must be a Jew, the traditional leftist boogie man. You can actually see the sanity fracture and the beast come out in their posts. Tragic.

I'm more or less the token Olde School Liberal here. Social liberal, fiscal conservative, unrepentant counter revolutionary. Contempt for Political Correctness.

Also tech geek. I want to be right. I don't need to win the argument. Convince me you are right and I will agree and thank you.

I don't expect you to believe me. I dare you to try rational argument.

Every time you insult instead of engage, you harm your cause. Only liars play the fallacy game. Do you have the balls to be honest? Better yet, are you RIGHT?

Are facts on your side? Are your political beliefs based on the lies of the most evil men? If not I challenge you to convert me.

Lighten up, Francis.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've noticed most of my stories about myself count as cautionary tales. I'm just the hero because I lived through what is often my horrible mistake.

Ok, there was that one time, at Band Camp.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 07:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the runaway car scenario....

Neutral.

Keeps the steering, removes the driving force. Might blow the engine but that's better than a wreck in my book.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456394/kill- mockingbird-huckleberry-finn-deemed-offensive-raci al-slurs

I read banned books. In fact, if I was teaching literature I would Begin with a list of banned books. Then throw in The Hobbit, ( racist creed against goblins ) Cordelia's Honor, ( Shards of Honor & Barrayar ) & a few others.

Neutral, in an age of computer controlled engines with rev limiters, makes sense. The old Dodge I had my issue with did not.

Audi claims their acceleration problem was stupid drivers. Others say it was pedal geometry and ergonomics.

Toyota claims their acceleration problem was carpet..... or demons. I forget.

Motorcycles have an ergonomic problem too. The big handful by throttle and sudden g load where you can't unwind your wrist. You see it a lot in "fail" videos.

In my case, mea culpa. The cruise control had been slowly deteriorating over time. You had to hold the button down longer and longer to engage it. That evening it wouldn't engage on my trip to my gf's. On the way home I tried again and the pedal went to the floor.

I may not have responded perfectly, but I've been trained to fly through the crash. No panic. Lots of adrenaline and probably loss of fine motor control. I did succeed in skidding a long way and not leaving the road. Lucky it was late and empty. At rush hour I would have had to hit the ditch or worse to not slaughter others.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can_of_Worms_(interchange)

What made this unique, & it got an award. ( Psychiatric association? ) was that to stay on the highway you entered, from 590N, you had to merge, then move across traffic to the far left lanes. From 490E you had to merge from the left, then move across traffic to the far right lanes. "Weaving" actually describes it well. So does deadly.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456392/dont- retire-stealth-bombers-budget-better

Year by year I'm increasingly inclined to cut the Air Force way back and give the tactical job to the Marines.

Even the Army would prefer close air support from the Marines, who's mission is to support the troops, than the Air Force who don't really want to.

You NEED air superiority. The Air Force loves pointy sexy fighters. That's fine. But pointy sexy fighters aren't the best plane for killing bad guys across the street. Stubby dumpy looking ones are.

See the A7 Corsair 2. One plane can carry the bomb load of a B-17 formation at 600 mph. Now obsolete.

Also subsonic. We need planes with it's abilities like the A-10. But we also need planes able to fight Migs.

You don't haul freight in a Corvette. You don't want a Peterbuilt for track days.
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


You don't haul freight in a Corvette. You don't want a Peterbuilt for track days.


Sometimes you do:


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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Presence of mind is crucial.

Couple years ago, I was backing my manual transmission Cummins pickup into the garage. It's a hydraulic clutch; pedal has a pin, with an E-clip, that a linkage clips to.

E-clip came off, linkage came off. It was like I'd simply sidestepped off the clutch pedal.

You do NOT stall a Cummins with the brakes.

Beat. Beat. Think. KEY.

Shut 'er down, literally one coat of paint away from the back wall of the garage. I nearly had a drive-through shop. But, I kept my wits and killed it with the key. Newer vehicles like my '14 Jeep, that could depend on a computer - pushbutton start - but I honestly haven't tried kiling it with the button.

Maybe I'll do that when I get home tonight - hit the button as I drive up the driveway. I wonder how many alarms and check engine lights THAT'll turn on!
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://9gag.com/gag/a6oQyGb
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2018 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick may have a stalker. How quaint.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2018 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As long as he doesn't snap & repeatedly call me a Druid in a futile attempt to anger me. ; )

Actually that would be funny. ( I'm not a Druid, just for the record. )
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2018 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funny... A guy named Winter telling us about a "hole" in global warming.

Snow-covered beaches? Chilly iguanas? They are part of a mysterious ‘hole’ in global warming
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2018 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just read my back e-mails, and discovered I owe Toro an apology.

A combination of not paying attention, not reading another's post, and making assumptions. All on me.

I am sorry for my attitude, and spouting off with assumptions not backed up with facts.

Please don't leave the group or fail to speak your mind because of my failings.

I screwed up in public, and a public apology is in order.

Thank you.
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Airbozo
Posted on Friday, February 16, 2018 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recently watched a NOVA show, "First Face of America" about the finding of a skeleton in an underwater cave in the Yucatan peninsula.

As part of the explanation of why it ended up there they made a statement that the sea level has been rising for 13,000 years accelerating, decelerating over and over. The way it was phrased made it sound like today's sea level rise is a normal part of that cycle.

I am surprised the editors let that assumption slip through.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2018 - 07:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/feb/15/la ser-scanning-reveals-lost-ancient-mexican-city-had -as-many-buildings-as-manhattan

The current Microsoft login screen wallpaper is the Pueblos cliff dwelling. A civilization wiped out by climate change.

If you search Vostock ice core..... you get the temperature charts for multiple ice age cycles.

2 things to notice.

Today we live in the post-peak plateau before the return of the next ice age. That's for orientation.

There's a lot more time spent below the arbitrary normal temperatures than above over the last half million years.... at least as far back as the ice cores go.

It's natural to consider the 1960's as "normal" since that's when public awareness of eco-doom began as a political movement. Iirc, the 60's was colder than average for the myopic last thousand years view. And far warmer than a 500,000 year average.

The million year average temperatures are civilization is dead with starving scattered remnants of humanity cold ones.

Picking your start and end dates is the easiest way to lie with statistics.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 19, 2018 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/02/warmi sts_foiled_again_answer_to_whats_causing_frog_popu lations_to_decline_is_just_plain_embarrassing.html

I don't know about this one, but I have Anthropologist stories about "uncontacted tribes" that get all sorts of booty and attention then go back to watching tv after they finish fooling the white guys.

The Observer effect in Physics is different than what I'm talking about here. This is when you flood a part of town with pollsters and ask leading questions and change the vote results. This is when you cat call the passing secretaries at a business, and they all seem to be stuck up Beeotches. Unexpected? Sure, sometimes. And sometimes it's just being unthinking.
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