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Hughlysses
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Softtails and Dynas combined into softtails. New mono shock frame that is 30-something percent stiffer, cheaper to build and lighter. All big twins now use the new 8-valve engines. The V-Rod is gone. No Sportster changes to speak of. No changes of note to the newish 500/750 watercooled bikes.

They're actually bragging about things like improved handling, increased lean angle, and lighter weight, which is fairly amazing.

Nothing that excited me, but I do kind of like the new Fat Boy:

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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 01:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Solid wheel in crosswind is no fun.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fugly
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Solid wheels don't make a lick of difference. Ride a solid wheel bike back to back with a spoke wheel bike in the same conditions. I have. No difference.

The fatboy looks like a vrod with a big twin engine. Not my cup of tea but not hateful.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

meh...
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1313
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe,
What took you so long to comment on Two_seasons post?
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry Brankin. Didn't know I was on a deadline
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Oddball
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dyna people are fuming it appears. They should have given the new bike a new name and not stolen Fat Bob from the dynas.

Now dealers can bend over any desperate Dyna people for "one the last Dynas ever".
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Increased lean angle to 31% was a thing to get excited about? Lol, ok.




EBR has a 48% lean angle.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ratbuell:
You ought to try that for multiple hours on end with solid wheels! Do you know how difficult it is to light a smoke when you are going straight down the highway, in Kansas, with a lean angle of 20+ degrees
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Increased lean angle to 31% was a thing to get excited about?
It is if yer onna hog !
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was shock at how light the old "fatboy" wheels were when I picked one up at a dealership.

They only look fat. They are actually pretty much hollow like a Rokon.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And like a rokon, the new fatboy won't fall over.

160 FRONT and a 240 rear!!
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, August 23, 2017 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd love to hear the theory of how a couple square feet of wheel side surface can multiply the effect of crosswinds, compared to the more-than-ten-times the area of the side of the motorcycle itself. I've had more crosswind effect from a WINDSHIELD because of buffeting transmitted to the steering head.

Tell a democrat. Have them start protesting solid wheels and stage some demonstrations. It would be about as worthwhile as tearing down all these statues...but it might make someone *feel* better...

(Message edited by Ratbuell on August 23, 2017)
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Zac4mac
Posted on Thursday, August 24, 2017 - 03:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a bicycle I ride every now and then.
1985 almost state of the art - Dura-Ace, not Campi.




The wheels have "bladed spokes" and in a stiff crosswind have moved me a foot sideways.
They also "sing" at speed.

Notice radial lacing on the front and single-cross on the rear...

(Message edited by zac4mac on August 24, 2017)
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Tootal
Posted on Wednesday, August 30, 2017 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put 22,000 miles on a 1989 Heritage Softail Classic. Beautiful bike! Candy Bronze and Cream two tone. Loved it! Well, until I rode it a while!! No lean angle, I was constantly dragging things. It vibrated so bad it cracked the belt guard and my floor board flew off at speed! Two years later I sold it and bought an Electra Glide Sport. Wow, what a difference! I put 156,000 miles on that one!
I had to totally restore it at 100,000 miles by building a new engine. The only thing left stock were the cylinders and the carb!

Harley made a lot more improvements after that and the 2002 was solid. After that they started to cheapen the bottom end and they have not impressed me since.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2017 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That Fat Bob has a radiator.
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Oddball
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2017 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oil cooler
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Thumper74
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2017 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like the new FatBoy, but also the Road King Special.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2017 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://lanesplitter.jalopnik.com/the-idiots-guide- to-all-eight-new-harley-davidson-cruis-1798636758
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