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     Aesquire |
You got it. Religion quite profitable. Meanwhile the planet is full of toxic poor cities with pollution that kills, that is ignored because Goldman Sachs can't make money trading lead poisoning. Big bucks in taxing Americans and rich Europeans for invisible gases. Then trading invisible gas negative futures with a profit on each trade. There's a reason China refuses to stagnate as desired by the Cult. They know better. Russia knows better too. They sponsored the Green Movement to wreck western industry. Russia is also an oil export country. ( with a State oil company ) But all that seems petty compared to the calls to imprison and execute heretics that question why Leonardo DiCaprio flies private jets around the world telling you to use less energy. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/06/02/pelosi-t rump-dishonored-god-walking-away-paris-accord/ Nancy thinks it's a religion too. Of course, Nancy thinks Bush is still President. She wishes. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/05 /delingpole-revealed-the-real-reason-trump-pulled- out-of-paris/ Biased editorial. Didn't see anything not true, mind you. | ||
| Aesquire |
https://wattsupwiththat.com/paleoclimate/ A nice selection of graphs for your perusal. | ||
| Ratbuell |
Funny how those graphs all show the same data - every 1,000 years or so, the planet warms slightly. Cyclical. Just like tides, and seasons. Somehow I don't see any of the Knights of the Round Table screaming about "pen thy horses, for their flatulence warms the earth!" Do I think we can be a responsible nuisance for the planet? Sure. We know what causes problems, and we should do what we can within reason - to mitigate things. But the "movement"? Bogus, political, and financial, just as noted above. This debate/topic always reminds me of a real comic genius - and, I think anyway, a true genius period. I miss George. NSFW (language)...but if you've got seven and a half minutes check this out. Some truth in here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVE-efyv2c | ||
| Ducbsa |
This is good: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/06/the- anti-social-cost-of-the-climate-crusade.php | ||
| Aesquire |
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/06/06/solar-updat e-june-2017-the-sun-is-slumping-and-headed-even-lo wer/ I'm not going to panic on this one. Might be a good time to buy a snow blower on sale though, if the prediction implied by the solar weather is correct. Not sure if I'd advise buying a snowmobile in anticipation of long snowy winter.... The difference between a small gamble with certain long term payoff, or a medium-big one that gets obsolete faster. Some of the scientists are worried that we may be going into a big solar minimum phase, and potentially a civilization crisis one. Your guess is as good as mine. You think the Cultists blame the refugee crisis on Global Warming now, wait until there's a killer cold spell and a real crisis. Where are people from Detroit & Toronto going to move to? Texas? Mexico? | ||
| Gaesati |
It will be good if Australia doesn't have to swelter through record high temperatures like we had for the past four years! | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/06 /delingpole-global-warming-is-myth-58-scientific-p apers-2017/ One of the main complaints against the Global Warming scam has been the perpetrator M.Mann's "hockey stick" chart deliberately does not show history correctly. Specifically the medieval warming period and.... Rome. I suppose it's easy to forge history when it's profitable. Another minor complaint about the Climate Con is the assumption that 1977 is the God decreed perfect temperature and must never vary or Man is being punished for his sins. Except of course that God is not allowed in this religious cult. Many have pointed out that we have yet to reach the warmth that the Northern hemisphere enjoyed a thousand years ago, when life got better after the cold, diseased, starvation years of the Dark Ages. By simple example it's obvious that today's temperature is still colder than civilization optimums. This may not be true in Australia. How was life there a thousand years ago? | ||
| Aesquire |
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| Aesquire |
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/06/cl imate_alarmists_abort_your_extra_children.html I'm going to, for a few seconds, agree with Gloria Steinem, Bill Nye, Obama, and Robert Ehrlich, and call upon all the Climate Obsessed to kill themselves immediately. You've been told that too many people ruin the planet. I agree. You are the too many. Since you are enlightened past mortal man, you should have no fear that you won't be re-united with Gaia, or be reborn as a fly, or whatever religion you have adopted in the face of the current murderous persecution of Christianity. Probably because it had more Likes on your facebook page. Thank you for listening. I now return to my usual cynical self that actually knows what science is, and that it has nothing to do with how many people believe in magic beans. ( but if they DID believe in magic beans, they'd try to ban them... methane is a greenhouse gas, you know? ) | ||
| Hootowl |
That's funny. The left wants open borders, and then flips out when the people counters report a population increase in America. | ||
| Aesquire |
A shrink would have a word for that. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/13 /delingpole-ship-of-fools-iii-global-warming-study -cancelled-because-of-unprecedented-ice/ We're here to investigate the ice free arctic. Global Warming melted all the ice! But we can't get there because of all the ice so we are blaming Climate Change. | ||
| Ducbsa |
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/06/new- study-explodes-common-air-pollution-claims.php | ||
| Aesquire |
The Air Pollution article is correct about America. Canada, too. Mexico? still has problems. ( The Capital, Mexico City is in a high altitude valley that has frequent inversions, trapping all the pollution. Like LA, but with no sea breeze and higher altitude, so breathing is harder to begin with. Oh, Did I mention the Volcano? ) Russia? The Soviets killed a Sea. Things have improved there, so only some parts are like living in an ashtray at a cigar convention. China? It's pollution is visible from space, and crossed the Pacific, measurably. The yearly death toll of Chinese air pollution is classified. Like many other Chinese mass murders, it officially never happened. India? sigh. Across the planet, you can make a solid guess on how bad the pollution is by checking who's in charge. If it's a Communist slave state, it's horrible. If it's a capitalist nation, it's pretty good. Everywhere, there are pockets of bad pollution, left overs from wartime production, pre-modern pollution laws mining, Soviet & Red Chinese "eggs-omelette" "less peasants is less mouths to feed" attitudes. If a fraction of what the Greenunists want to steal from us for Global Warming was applied to the real pollution, thousand would live that die every year. Cold hard truth. Greenies are horrible for the environment. | ||
| Aesquire |
 I have no comment suitable for public. | ||
| Crusty |
"Morons, Psychopaths and Mental Defectives" | ||
| Aesquire |
Could be completely fake. A bad joke. In terrible taste. In which case I have to apologize and admit I was fooled because I'm inclined to think anti-vaccination folk gullible and ignorant. | ||
| Macbuell |
Oy. After use of the terms gullible and ignorant I am forced to respond. I am a father of a special needs boy and have done more research on the subject than most any non doctor / researcher has. First, the term Anti Vaxxer is a term invented by the media and the left to paint people with questions or objections to vaccinations in a bad light. Most parents just want to know the real unadulterated facts and the right to choose. The 2nd part, the choice part, is becoming harder because a lot of pediatricians don't give you a choice. I'll ask three questions, if you answer yes to any of those questions you should understand why some people that have serious reservations about vaccinations ... 1. Do you agree that every body is different and some may react negatively when a foreign substance is injected into their body. Some people are allergic to penecillin. Some arent. For kids, with very sensitive neurological system still undergoing development, negative reactions can be very severe and have long lasting effects. 2. Do you have the right to decide what is and what is not put into you body. Is it not yours but instead a property of the government and they decide what should be injected into you body and when? Isn't that more true for your child who isnt able to advocate for themselves. 3. The governments view is that it is OK if a small percentage of kids have severe adverse effects from a vaccination. That's why they set up a special court that pays parents if their child is severely injured or even killed by a vaccine. They also made it impossible to sue the pharmaceutical company. Would you be OK with your child being one of the "acceptable" casualties from a vaccination? In the end, for those that have reservations about vaccinations, who aren't crazies, it's all about choice and having all the facts. | ||
| Hootowl |
You're right, every body is different. Some vaccines are ineffective in some people. Those unfortunate souls rely on other people to not get them sick. Many more people die from disease than from the vaccine against such diseases. I don't believe the government should be able to compel people to vaccinate, but those not vaccinated should be required to stay away from the rest of us. Herd immunity is the stone from which the vaccination pillar of modern medicine is formed. I would rather take an incredibly small risk and get vaccinated, than take the much greater risk of getting a fatal communicable disease. And because vaccines don't work on everyone, you're risking other people's lives by not getting vaccinated yourself. I don't want to start a pissing match here, but your way of thinking has brought back diseases that were once considered nearly eradicated. Note that we no longer get smallpox vaccinations. That was a risky vaccine. Why do we no longer get that? The risk of getting the disease is lower than the risk of getting sick from the vaccine. Why? Vaccination prevented the spread of the disease, and now no one carries it, so no one can spread it. I completely understand your objection to having an injection forced upon you, or being coerced into it through not being allowed to fully participate in society (school shots, etc.) as I find it objectionable as well. However, I find the alternative even more objectionable. | ||
| Aesquire |
No public gatherings. No amusement parks open. Dozens of children die each month or live short & painful lives on life support. Every summer a plague. This was life in America before the polio vaccine stopped it. Where you are right is the hard cold fact that society's leaders decided that a tiny percentage might die so hundreds of thousands will certainly not. 1. True. The odds on bad reactions is small but real. The odds on bad disease outcome are large and real. 2. You certainly have the right to chose not to put scary stuff in your body. But you have no right to spread disease. Chose to live separate from humanity? Not sure that's an option on this continent. It's a far more crowded planet than when I was born. Your unsafe children don't have a right to endanger others. It's a horrible collision between the safety of millions and the rights of the individual. 3. Yes. & no one is ok with their children being hurt. 4. Besides the small percentage of children that may die from anything, including a vaccine, the greater danger by far, to your children are ignorant people who believe an old actress who vocally spouts known lies about vaccines and turn their children into disease vectors. You will have to do many things for nearly two decades to your child "against their will". Potty training. Teach them not to hurt others. Teach them to share. Make them receive medical treatment. You need to make choices for them until you decide they can make them for themselves. And then they may have to wait for society to unfairly demand they pass arbitrary age limits. And you remain responsible until arbitrary limits are passed. The many little outbreaks of thought eradicated deadly disease today among the illegal immigrants and refugee colonies deliberately placed in our country in the last decade for selfish political purposes shows the effectiveness of vaccinations to reduce the medieval state of fear of disease as a recurrent wave of sickness and death. See also Disneyland. If you want to raise your children separate from society in this country you will find it hard to do without accusations and prosecution for child abuse. The busybody nature, the intolerant bureaucrats ever seeking to control more of your life to the greater glory of ever increasing budgets means that such interference with Our lives is an ongoing struggle between individual freedom and collective control. And you have to judge on an individual basis these transgressions on freedom. Spank your kid for refusing to clean whatever. Should you be prosecuted? Cut off parts of your kid's genitals for religious tradition? Prosecute? ( for ancient health care reasons? To cripple sexual ability? I think there's a difference. ) Beat you kid with a club when they disobey, breaking bones? Prosecute? Deny your child health care so they die in agony? Prosecute? Deny your child vaccines out of real but exaggerated fear? Prosecute? Perhaps it's a pity we don't shun. ( I'd be a likely candidate ) There's little "outside" to condemn us to when you talk nation instead of village in wilderness or isolated religious community with limited contact with greater society. Where can America send it's rejects? ( fair or not.... and it's usually not ) wall off Manhattan? | ||
| Aesquire |
We are seeing progress in discovering the causes of autism. It's complicated by the fact that politics has expanded the definition of autism for budget reasons. Scientists are fairly sure vaccinations are not a cause but they may learn different. What else has changed in my lifetime? Pesticides? Are the "safer" new ones to replace the old neurotoxin sprays the cause? Radiation? You'd expect a spike in my generation, fading off after the above ground nuclear testing ban. Virus? Genetic rewriting of development code? We get the yearly wave from China. Some chemical pollution? ( probably a safer replacement for a banned chemical. ... what if the replacement for Freon is the cause? The timing is right.) | ||
| Gregtonn |
"I don't believe the government should be able to compel people to vaccinate, but those not vaccinated should be required to stay away from the rest of us." I don't have a strong belief one way or the other on the vaccination issue but this statement seems completely illogical. If you have be vaccinated you are theoretically immune so why should those not vaccinated have to stay away from you? G | ||
| Strokizator |
As a person born in 1952, I'm old enough to remember polio and collection drives to get Tommy an "iron lung". Had friends who walked with a limp because of polio. My eyesight went south after a bout with the measles. Chicken pox, mumps, etc ran through families and schools. Do what you want with your body. Your kid is trusting you to do what's best for him. | ||
| Macbuell |
What scientists? The CDC? The best working theory to date is that certain people, not just kids, cannot detox chemicals and other foreign contaminants as well as others. Those chemicals leach through the gut into the blood stream. Those chemicals can then break through the Blood brain barrier and that is when the neurological issues arise. The chemicals can come from vaccinations and also environmental issues such as pesticides in food, etc. Look, I will never tell anyone not to vaccinate their child. But there are legitimate reasons why some might chose to not to go that route. Labeling them and demonizing them and calling them other names is not a productive way to go about the conversation or frame the debate. | ||
| Aesquire |
Greg. Because vaccinations don't work for all. The immunity fades with time. Highly variable humanity. So you try and make each susceptible person an island surrounded by immune folk so they don't get exposed. You have no way to know if I am immune to polio or smallpox or not. Ditto you and your neighbor. You go visit Mongolia and you may not be protected by the folk around you. | ||
| Aesquire |
Mac, I demonize the willful ignorance. The actress that denies facts and urges people to put their children at risk of crippling disease and death. Who's ignorant superstition puts the entire population surrounding each gullible follower at risk. Skepticism about the incomplete understanding of human reaction to vaccines is justified. Medicine is not settled science. Science is never settled. It just, hopefully, gets closer to understanding. Vaccines can kill you. Cripple you. It's sad when they do. Diseases will kill you. Leave survivors crippled. Cold hard numbers from experience tell us which risk is greater, and the danger is never zero. There are now enclaves of people from lands where the vaccines are not protecting people because their mullahs don't trust anything after 800 ad. | ||
| Hootowl |
"If you have be vaccinated you are theoretically immune so why should those not vaccinated have to stay away from you?" I explained that in my post. Vaccines don't work for everyone. Those folks rely on others not getting them sick. | ||
| Aesquire |
I don't think the civil rights part of this is black and white. I'm not arguing that, not at all certain of my opinion. It's the science and math around disease spread. Won't argue that the CDC hasn't been politicized, I think it has. Government organizations have that problem. Different argument. ( we probably agree ) |
