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     Ratbuell |
And a lot of them can. Look at some of the fat bastards wearing blue. How strict can these goals really be? I'm 110% pro-law enforcement. Yes sir, no sir, dome light on, hands in plain sight, no sudden moves. But seriously now...some of these LEOs are every bit of 350 lbs - and not in a linebacker sense. So don't "physical standards" me... | ||
| Hootowl |
Some, yes. Most look big because of the vest. Take a good look at a "big" cop. They're bulky, sure, but that's not all fat. You have to be big to take down big bad guys resisting arrest. A svelte 180 pound cop is not going to be able to ground a 300 pound man. | ||
| Crusty |
Sumo wrestlers look fat, too. I wouldn't want to step into a ring with one, though. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I'm 100% pro law enforcement also. But a screw up is a screw up, and if you choose a career that requires you to employ deadly force, you chose a career that can land you in jail for a minor mistake. I give you all the more respect for that truth, but I won't change it. And God help you if I find out you were taking the extra power and authority I gave you, and using it maliciously and deliberately outside of the law. There won't be a pit deep enough. On the average, I suspect if you had 50 men and 50 women in a room, there would be two to four times as many men well qualified to be a good cop than there are women well qualified. But I would also bet there is a 50/50 chance the best qualified would be female. And if a female officer has to shoot sooner when being attacked by a criminal than a male officer would, well, so be it. Sucks to be a thug. But it's easy to pretend its simple from the outside. Did you know that at the end of WWII, when the US troops were rolling through an effectively defeated Germany, that we would go into a town, meet with some town elders, ask them who the SS / Gestapo / Nazi representatives were, round them up, and tell some poor sergeant to load them in the back of a jeep and take them out to a field and shoot them in the back of the head? We did that. It was probably the right thing to do, but God help us, and God help the people that had to do it. I probably would have done it too, and it would have destroyed me. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Found a good summary that is remarkably balanced (especially for CNN, though like NPR, they turn back into good professional journalists when the truth appears to fit their preconceived narratives). Regardless, it is a good article with useful reporting. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/21/us/terence-crutcher- police-shooting-point-counterpoint/ He put himself in a dangerous situation by likely being whacked out on PCP and not in control of himself in public. She screwed up and got scared. He's dead, her career is done, and she will likely go to jail. Nobody wins here, and neither "deserved" what is happening to them. | ||
| Aesquire |
This has nothing to do with cops. It's paid agitation. The trigger could be a speech or just made up out of nothing. The rioters know they are supported by the President. They probably don't know or care who ultimately bankrolled them. You really think they wouldn't riot if they knew a Nazi collaborator & international communist was behind them? You think they know or care what a Nazi is? You know the FBI is watching this happening on social media. You can guess from recent reports and statements by the company CEO's that Twitter & Facebook are all in on being part of the self righteousness of the Glorious Revolution. You're not of the body? You don't get paid by YouTube and your twits get censored. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/23/f acebook-stop-messing-with-the-election.html | ||
| Hughlysses |
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| Aesquire |
( sarcasm on ) well obviously that's an unfair percentage. I'm not doing my part. ( sarcasm off ) Nor will I. Like I said. Paid political agitators. Approved & orchestrated racial strife. This was a big project of the KGB back in the sixties. Barack's church in Chicago is one product of that program. This time it's Soros & the leader of the Party. | ||
| Torquehd |
The most disturbing part of BLM riots is that a terrorist organization is able to plan violent assaults, drive across state lines and consolidate on a target, without the FBI or some other agency doing anything about it. Are they tracking this? Are they being paid to look the other way? With all of the oversight that our Federal Govt gained under the Patriot Act, plus whatever it has been doing that it does not have legal authority to do, there is NO WAY that the FBI shouldn't be tracking. | ||
| Aesquire |
BLM is a presidentially approved group. The FBI must be under orders to not act. Deja freaking vu. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/ article103973781.html Today if a cop shoots someone apparently they need Steven Spielberg to film it to be cleared. Again. Orchestrated planned agitprop operations. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Pretty sure this is the right thread to bring this up. I've been wrestling with this Kaepernic/Anthem issue since it started. I've decided the biggest part of it is the perceived disrespect of a symbol of our country and way of life. Just finished reading an article on Coach Preston Brown in Camden, N.J. and while I still see sitting thru the Anthem as disrespect, I don't feel the same about the players dropping to one knee. Sitting is an act of disinterest, while kneeling, be it one or both knees and involved is anything but. Maybe it's my Catholic upbringing that puts an emphasis on kneeling... If nothing else, I won't be distracted anymore by this topic. Rant off Z | ||
| Torquehd |
It is blatant disrespect. Doing anything besides standing with your hand on your heart (civilian) or saluting (military (or standing at attention while not in uniform)) is blatant disrespect. The playing of the National Anthem is not a time to show everybody how thug life you are. It's not a time to be an individual. YOU don't matter during the National Anthem. Your COUNTRY matters. Show YOUR COUNTRY respect, or GTFO. If you want to protest your country, leave. North Korea would love to have you. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Ratbuell |
But...why would they walk away from all the subsidies, and freebies? (and that's NOT counting the rioting and looting!!) | ||
| Njloco |
It's interesting because a few years ago, sometime when all the flak was coming to a head over the Fast and Furious episode of O's reign, I read an article, the title and author escape me at the moment. It basically stated that with all that the Gov't is doing on the fringes of being illegal the people will eventually notice that it is doing many things illegally and start to break the law on a huge scale. I guess it's began ! | ||
| Torquehd |
"they" wouldn't (by "they", I assume you're referring to the folks who take part in the "rioting and looting!!"). they don't have rational answers, or goals. They just want an excuse to F()@% S#!t up. It's all emotion and no intellect. It's pure exploitation of the weak minded by "community organizers". | ||
| Court |
And..... I'd submit that, while the thugs break the laws in the street with impunity, the folks like Lois Lerner and the Clinton's have effectively given license to the wealthy to "get away with whatever you can". When see that cat stepping out of the store with the microwave ..... be aware some banker, somewhere, may be doing the same thing to your 401(K). Kinda a "new world order" and you have no vote nor control. | ||
| M1combat |
"When see that cat stepping out of the store with the microwave ..... be aware some banker, somewhere, may be doing the same thing to your 401(K)." Well said sir. You've given me cause for thought... It seems to me that the whole situation on the streets lately is really just a microcosm of what's happening in the world's financial, territorial and political realms... each of which are simply playing out on more or less "shaded" stages relative to one another given our own perspective. So... that begs the question. Who are the "good guys" on each of those stages and what needs to happen in order to reverse course? | ||
| Crusty |
When see that cat stepping out of the store with the microwave ..... be aware some banker, somewhere, may be doing the same thing to your 401(K). They already have been. Just look at the higher levels of AIG. | ||
| Aesquire |
My attitude on the feetsball millionaires "protesting" our nation by kneeling for the national Anthem is simple. I fully support their right to free speech. I fully support your right to point out that they are essentially flaming idiots who are supporting murderers. I fully support anyone who wants to comment that they might as well put on Klan Hoods, since they are shilling for the people who burn crosses. And I don't buy one single thing that the NFL sells. If I buy beer, I'll skip the stuff with football crap on it and buy small brewery beer from companies that might be run by hippie idiots ( But good brewers ) but aren't selling their souls to a giant monopoly. | ||
| Sifo |
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| Ourdee |
Joe, I have a relative that has tried out for Law Enforcement in another state. Mature. Healthy, Beat out other applicants. Smart, Highest scores on the test. Mentally stable. What was the problem that my relative didn't get hired over the low scoring physically challenged people who got hired, He was too white and a had a penis. I call that discrimination. | ||
| Ratbuell |
I agree, RD. Quotas are bullshit. If you can do the job, you get the job. If you can't do the job...you don't get it. That's how it SHOULD be. Unfortunately in this world of PC hell...it's not that way. | ||
| Pwnzor |
I think I may have found the problem... it's definitely racism. | ||
| Torquehd |
Assuming that's not staged... That's a brave mother f#$)(*r. I expected him to throw in the towel after the first violent episode. Edit: Until Chivalry is dead, men and women will not be equal. Until all blacks decide that blacks and whites are equal, there will always be some who are not equal, and cannot be treated equally. If you have to change your behavior for fear of getting your ass beat (or in this guy's case, just get your ass beat), then you're not equal to those folks. Not by your doing, by their doing. The same goes for folks who believe that their religion makes them superior and anyone who disagrees should die. Not all humans are equal. They were created equally, but somewhere along the way, they got derailed, and cannot be dealt with equally. That's why we have laws and a justice system (or what's left of a justice system). (Message edited by torquehd on September 27, 2016) | ||
| Akbuell |
Ourdee, you are correct. Because of complaints by various EIEIO groups, some of them filed in courts, govt entities bend over more than backwards to recruit minority candidates. When I was a working LEO, it was with no small amount of irony that I would say that the only way to get hired by the state police, even as a 'lateral transfer', was to be a single black mother with the name Whitefeather Gonzales. All is not lost, however. Tell your relative to keep trying. What happens is those candidates who are 'minority hires' are monitored as closely as other hires, and the standard for continued employment does not change. If/once a candidate has a documented history of not being up to standard, they are released, and the hiring process begins again. An officer at the dept I worked at applied 5-6 times before getting the chance to do the job, and he continues to work there today. | ||
| Pwnzor |
In my world, diversity hires are given special advantages, privileges and opportunities. Then, after we hand them everything on a gilded plate with platinum cutlery, they sue us on the way out the door for unfair treatment and wrongful termination. And they win. Every time. | ||
| Sifo |
Until all blacks decide that blacks and whites are equal, there will always be some who are not equal, and cannot be treated equally. How can they possibly come to that conclusion when they are being told by our government, and many other sources that the only way they can obtain equal standing is through special treatment, in the way of "reverse discrimination", quotas, etc. It doesn't matter what you name the program, the message is the same. Those poor minorities haven't got a chance on an equal playing field. When you teach that for generations, you can bet the farm that those people won't act as an equal. I have incredible respect for those who make the decision to stand up against this and fend for themselves. Even so, are the seeds of doubt planted in their minds, wondering if a part of their success might be due to quotas, or some other form of reverse discrimination? That's got to mess with all but the most secure egos. EDIT: Let me add this... Does anybody really believe that Obama could have become President if he had been white? (Message edited by SIFO on September 28, 2016) |
