| Author | Message | ||
     Rick_a |
They have been mass enablers in all of this. The fact that hasn't resulted in widespread public scrutiny is disconcerting. | ||
| Airbozo |
Fjord! Saturday morning cartoons have been crap for about a decade. Boiler plate Chinese animation with moving mouths. Nothing good about them, but it is now considered taboo to show a good Warner Brothers cartoon. Too violent. No one pResident has a lock on ignorance. Until our politicians are actually held accountable for their actions, nothing will change. Not going to happen in our lifetimes anyway. | ||
| Zac4mac |
Zazoo U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1vBquOXA7c Really loved the wooly mammoth with Richard Nixon's voice. Z (Message edited by zac4mac on June 22, 2016) | ||
| Sifo |
I like how Bill Whittle cuts straight to the heart of an issue. | ||
| Snacktoast |
I like how Bill Whittle cuts straight to the heart of an issue He's very good at it, too. A big reason I follow him on Youtube. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Scott Adams' take on gun control. | ||
| Aesquire |
That aspect had never crossed my mind, but it's so true. Well worth the read. | ||
| Sifo |
Scott Adams' take on gun control. Perhaps one of the best, and shortest gun control articles I've seen. Gets right to some of the difficult issues. Of course he uses gross generalizations. He says he does! Of course, those gross generalizations are accurate when applied across our population. You can't apply them accurately to an individual, but you can when discussing the population. The only flaw I see in his logic, is that he ignores the likelihood that those same people who ignore the law by abusing guns rights now, will almost certainly ignore the new laws he would like to see passed. Such is the fantasy world of the Democrat's mind though. | ||
| Sifo |
  And the douche canoe of the day award goes to...  This is paraphrased of the exact conversation, but it accurately represents what was said. I think his response did include those exact words. I think it was to the effect of "Well that's different. I think we deserve - I think we need to be protected down here." | ||
| Mtnmason |
Way to go Charlie! You've managed to encapsulate the hypocrisy of your entire party in two short sentences. We'll make sure your remarks are spread far and wide. Meanwhile in Germany... http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/foghorn/b reaking-mass-shooting-movie-theater-germany-possib le-hostage-situation/ (Message edited by mtnmason on June 23, 2016) | ||
| Court |
I heard that news about Germany . . but that has to be inaccurate as they have tough gun laws and no civilian is allowed to have a gun. I think the reporter just got carried away and said gun by accident, | ||
| Court |
Good . . . .
Arguably the most drug added crowd in America is demanding less violence. That's rich. Let me guess. . . . rather than stop violence . . . I'll bet they demand we limit gun sales. Net thing . . . you won't be able to buy an alligator or a gorilla. Where does all this end? | ||
| Hootowl |
Blanks? https://www.rt.com/news/347958-germany-gunman-cine ma-shooting/ Suicide by cop? | ||
| Rick_a |
This guy gets it: http://louderwithcrowder.com/crower-schools-ignora nt-skynews-on-guns-and-orlando-shooting/#.V2xWJHop DqA | ||
| Snacktoast |
This guy gets it Truth is a bitch, isn't it?  | ||
| Aesquire |
A little clarification on Mr. Crowder's remarks. And a History lesson on a limited subject. First a few definitions. Since the English Anchor A&&hole insisted on promoting lies, you should have a clue when the anti-rights folk talk, so you can tell. Trigger = a lever you operate to fire a gun or crossbow. Middle ages Barrel = the tube, usually of metal, that the bullet goes down. ( if you don't know what a bullet is, you don't belong in a discussion of guns. you are way too ignorant to have an informed opinion. ) called a Barrel because very early guns were made the same way. Strips of metal with rings around them. Muzzle = the end of the barrel the bullet comes out of. Very fast. Breech loader = Old muskets and such you would load powder and bullet from the muzzle end. This meant you had to stand up while people were shooting at you. It took a lot of time. So they came up with a variety of ways to load from the user end. Developed, Middle ages. Cartridge = the bullet+powder+primer+case aka "round" aka "ammo" Developed in the 1800's Magazine = the device, usually some kind of box or tube with a spring that holds cartridges. developed 1400's Chamber = the part of the barrel at the user end that holds the cartridge in line with the barrel and from which the cartridge is fired. The end of the cartridge towards the user is held by a Bolt of some sort, named after the bolts used to fasten stuff together for centuries. Why? because early breech loading guns often used a screw design like a bolt. Developed middle ages. Repeater = a gun that holds in a magazine multiple cartridges and can be fired over and over, reloading the chamber from the magazine. A repeater is operated by a lever of some sort, usually operated by the user. developed 1800's Guns are normally defined by the type of mechanism ( action ) used to reload the chamber. A Bolt action has a lever on the bolt itself, a lever action has a large lever sticking out usually on the bottom of the gun, etc. Semi-automatic = a gun that reloads the chamber after each trigger pull without the user having to work a lever. developed, 1800's ( using the energy of firing the cartridge to work the levers, so you didn't have to do so manually ) Full-automatic = a gun that will reload the chamber and fire over and over as long as you hold the trigger down. AKA a Machine Gun. developed 1800's. ( I'm going to skip the Gattling Gun, millatreuse, etc.. and designs by Leonardo da Vinci. You just don't usually see them on the street today. ) FYI to own a Machine gun in the U.S. since 1934 you need a special permit from the Federal Govt. that includes a background check. AFAIK the number of people shot by legal civilian machine guns is... zero? Select fire= able to fire full or semi automatically with the flip of a lever. defined as a Machine gun by American law. Main Battle Rifle = the common arm of the infantry for over a century. A Main Battle Rifle used a powerful long range cartridge like the .303 British, 8mm Mauser, and .30-06. Ok... definitions done. In WW2 in Germany they developed a gun called the Sturmgewehr 44. ( Storm-rifle (model/year number ) aka Assault Rifle ) It used a reduced power cartridge compared to the Main Battle Rifle. It operated as a select fire light one man machine gun. Regular machine guns usually used a team to carry the gun, a mount to steady it, and the bunchaton of ammo you want to have. Machine guns were much heavier than Rifles, because the recoil of the High Powered ammo kicked too much to control full auto in a light rifle. See note 1. It was pretty well established that the Main Battle Rifle ammo was just too powerful to use in a light machine gun unless it was much heavier than a normal rifle. Every attempt to cheat the laws of physics, failed. ( Including the M-14 which usually ended up with the Full Auto mode disabled ) So the Germans made a short, less powerful version of the 8mm Mauser cartridge to go in their new light machine gun. Light weight rifle. One man carry. Semi and full automatic loading capable. Reduced power cartridge. Steal the name from the Germans, and you have the Definition of the "Assault Rifle". Sturmgewehr. see note 2 The most popular weapon used by bad guys on the planet is the AK-47, in military trim a semi & full auto rifle using a reduced power cartridge. ( and based on the German Sturmgewehr 44, designed in large part by Hugo Schmeisser, a POW and German arms designer who had designed the Sturmgewehr 44 ) Note that the VERY restrictive laws passed in 1934 limited but not banned the civilian ownership of machine guns etc. AFAIK the number of murders with legal machine guns & assault rifles... is zero. Now to the gritty part. Assault Weapon. It's a made up name to scare you. The so-called legal definitions are whatever the anti-civil rights jerk that wrote the law says. Since the term is made up from whole cloth with no basis in fact or logic, but is simply a propaganda term, it has been used to define things like standard capacity magazines for .22 pistols produced legally for 80 years, and are now a Dreaded Assault Weapon. In short the word itself is a lie, meant to fool the ignorant, and can mean anything a liar wants it to at all. I hope that informs. ******************************************* Note 1. There was, in service in the U.S. since WW1 a gun named the BAR Browning Automatic Rifle, in .30-06, that was a machine gun light enough to carry around, if you were big. Weighed 16 to 25 pounds, depending on model, so it was much heavier than the WW2 standard issue American Battle Rifle, the M1 Garand. ( 9 1/2 -12 pounds.) The Garand was considered a heavy rifle, and the heavier weight of the BAR helped in controlling the weapon in full auto fire. You still didn't shoot it like a typical third world untrained goon, holding the trigger down and spraying the area, it kicked too much. You used it with controlled quick bursts of fire of a few shots each. Devastating weapon requiring special training and a strong back. Used with great effect from WW1 through Vietnam, and still in use today. ( My Father's pre-Korean War Bluejacket's manual explains the way the U.S. uses such a weapon. As a Squad level light machine gun. One BAR and the rest carry M1 Garands. ( Or 1903 Springfields, depending on what was in the arsenal on your ship or base ) Note 2. I will admit that the Nazis may have been evil incarnate, but they had a way with cool names for guns and tanks. America had the "General Sherman" and Germany had the Panther, Tiger etc. For Airplanes we were about even in the cool name dept. Credit to the British for most of them. The Brits figured out that you are going to have various improved versions of equipment, so instead of publicizing that they used a P-47D15-RA in an action, ( telling the enemy exactly which version produced what year with what equipment ) they just called all of the series "Thunderbolt". Better Press ( the reason Germany used cool names too ) and a little security, with deliberate intent to mislead. You didn't want the Enemy to Know that the D15 had the range to bomb Brest, but the D11 did not, so you just didn't tell him which model, he would have to assume all Thunderbolts had the same capacity.. and you could surprise him when the new ones were better. After all, he knew P-47's couldn't fly that far. Surprise! ) (Message edited by aesquire on June 23, 2016) | ||
| Rick_a |
No permit is required to own a machine gun. It's a registration and the purchase of a tax stamp. They've been banned from civilian production since 1986 so the numbers in the registry are limited (175,977) and the values are on a constant rise. Mature semiautomatic pistol designs were firmly established by the early 1900's to late 1930's, most modern semiautomatic rifle designs were fully realized from the mid 30's to late 60's. Most everything that's come since has been based at least in part from established designs from those eras. Any weapon system requires specialized training to deploy effectively. The "spraying of bullets" nonsense the media and leftists are spouting is laughable. A lot of these people are ill informed. The rest are spreading propaganda. In 1935 machine guns, short barreled rifles, "any other weapons" (a catch all for other concealable arms) and "destructive devices" were made illegal without registry and the payment of the $200 tax. This was in response to the prohibition era violence, which of course ended not because of gun regulations, but with the end of prohibition. As most crimes committed with guns are done with a handgun the late 70's to 80's saw a campaign to end or curtail private ownership of handguns. Certain guns were given nasty names, some types of handgun ammunition were vilified. It's pretty much the same old game only they are unrelenting this time around. With the rifles it was once the AK-47 that was vilified. Now it's on to the AR-15 in earnest. It's a distraction and a means to incrementally strip 2nd Amendment rights. The guise of public safety is weak for anyone with their eyes open. If "gun control" worked LA, Chicago, Detroit, Washington D.C., etc would be the safest cities in America. Any failure of "gun control" legislation has some kind of excuse formulated, and further restrictions as an answer. Stupid. | ||
| Court |
>>>With the rifles it was once the AK-47 that was vilified. Now it's on to the AR-15 in earnest. I was laughing at the early media reports . . . "once again an AK-15 . . . . " They are clueless . . . I was listening to a "climate change" debate yesterday by a bunch of "millennial think tanks kids" called "Center for Climate News . . . . within moments their climate change "non-partisan / non-political talk morphed to to gun control. Crazy | ||
| Aesquire |
No. Religious. Just as a medieval monk would routinely use Greek analogies.... a thing wouldn't just be red, it would be "red as the blood of Christ", a modern Statist thinks all news is a reason to extol the virtues of the New Gods.... the power of the collective to run people's lives in excruciating detail. The base concept is the dialectic. The conceit that the argument is reality. That is at heart a lie. The map is not the territory. Your belief in something has nothing to do with it's reality. Thus to the religions that bless the lie as it advances the cause, truth is what they say it is, in the name of Lucifer. The first rebel. ( the original dedication for "Rules For Radicals" the American leftist bible. ) | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Its being reported that The FBI has no credible evidence that Mateen was gay. Apparently, those that have come forward to claim they were involved with him were not credible or had confused Mateen with someone else. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I thought they had footage from hotel security cameras of previous dates. In my opinion, it is a significant detail that does change the narrative significantly. | ||
| Macbuell |
I googled this and found several articles ... none in the mainstream media. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-investigators -say-they-have-found-no-evidence-that-orlando-shoo ter-had-gay-lovers/ar-AAhyHLa In seeking to verify the reports, federal agents have culled Mateen’s electronic devices, including a laptop computer and cellphone, as well as electronic communications of those who made the claims, law enforcement officials said. So far, they have found no photographs, no text messages, no smartphone apps, no gay pornography and no cell-tower location data to suggest that Mateen — who was twice married to women and had a young son — conducted a secret gay life, the officials said. | ||
| Macbuell |
It seems like the story came from the LA Times: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fb i-20160623-snap-story.html | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Meanwhile in Russia - President Putin has authorized full personal carry for every Russian citizen (with appropriate licensing fee - hey, the state has to make money) to include personal concealed carry. An AK-47 here (Kyrgyzstan) is about 20 USD, with 30 round mag stacked like potato chips; loaded and ready - less than 150. A nice older makarov was garnered for a bottle of vodka. Ukraine was same and similar. PS - Orlando was a staged event - complete with crisis actors and predictable SJW blathering. | ||
| H0gwash |
“No one is lying about him being on there,” West said of the gay apps, adding that “once you have the app and delete your profile, it’s gone.” Gay cruising phone apps are not much useful for anything else other than cruising for gay sex. That really makes me think Matten was at least bi. | ||
| Aesquire |
If the Jihadi Murderer was gay is a question only for the tabloids or someone trying to figure out what exactly caused him to embrace the death cult and kill in the name of Allah. Since it is highly doubtful that any high percentage of mass murdering jihadi are going to be closeted gays, there's not really a lot to learn here, other than the level of butt covering dishonesty out of the FBI & Dept. of Social Justice. Also the rank smell of the attempt to re-write history by altering the transcripts of the jihadi's recorded comments, for no other obvious reason than to cover up for the cults that murder gays in public for being gay, ( hmm. just like in Orlando ) murder women for being raped, ( now too dishonored to live ) and everyone else on the planet that disagrees with them in the slightest detail. ( by the Will of The Prophet, peace be upon him ) The FBI hasn't been this butt covering since WACO, even though this time they just obeyed the President's orders and didn't actually help slaughter a bunch of people. And the whole Gay thing in the press? Obviously to distract you from the fact that it is Obama's policies that have led to the many mass murder jihadi attacks in the U.S. on his watch. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/23/mu slim-women-kicked-out-urth-cafe-countersuit Don't have much to say about the suit, but I do want to quote the lawyer who is being attacked as a racist monster. Yerushalmi is a controversial figure, listed by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), a non-profit advocacy group which collates information on hate groups and extremists, as an “anti-Muslim activist who is a leading proponent of the idea that the United States is threatened by the imposition of Muslim religious law, known as Shariah”. “Ideally, he would outlaw Islam and deport its adherents altogether,” the SPLC’s profile of Yerushalmi adds. Asked about the SPLC’s characterization of him, Yerushalmi said that he “represents a lot of Muslims”. “I represent Muslim Americans, running from jihad and seeking asylum. If you want to say I’m an anti-jihad lawyer, you’re 100% right,” he continued. “Am I anti-Sharia? Yes, I am. Am I anti-Muslim? Not if he doesn’t have a gun in his hand shooting at me.” Gee, sums up my attitude quite well. Since I consider being hated by the SPLC as a mark of honor, and agree that the United States is threatened by the imposition of Muslim religious law, known as Shariah I can only ask the SPLC why they DON'T feel threatened by the imposition of Sharia Religious law on THEM? I'm also against the imposition of Catholic religious law, or FSM religious law, but oddly don't feel all that threatened by them.  | ||
| Court |
I find it entertaining that the FBI tells us they have investigated and can't find any evidence that this guy is homosexual. Let me get this straight… This is the same FBI who brought him in for questioning three times, determined he was no threat, and released him? | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
PS - Orlando was a staged event - complete with crisis actors and predictable SJW blathering. Welcome Alex Jones to the Badweb | ||
| Aesquire |
After Hoover I wouldn't expect the FBI to be good at figuring out who's gay. Seriously, how many times does the News get it wrong right after a disaster? Plane crashes are almost always reported completely wrong, since most reporters & writers don't know a thing about airplanes. They just know "tailspin" sounds cool, they have no idea what it means. ( It's a cartoon show... using Disney's "Jungle Book" characters. ) If he was gay has so little to do with anything except target selection. It really doesn't matter if he was just obsessed with gays, just casing a target, was closeted, had some technobabble Psych issue, or was told to hit a gay club by his Dad, Or Wife. Unless there's a record of some sort of marching order from ISIS or Daddy or the voices in his head, we can assume that he struck the target he got obsessed with. Allegedly he & his wife cased a Disney attraction... Disney Springs? You can speculate why he decided the Pulse was a "better" target for him. Harder for people to run away? Better "security" in holding the target once he began the rampage suicide? But how gay he was seems like a distraction from learning anything useful. | ||
| Macbuell |
By saying he was Gay they can spin it into a confused man who lashed out at the source of his confusion, remove ISIS and Terrorism from the equation, and focus on Gun Control. That is what they are trying to do. They have already been caught altering facts to try to remove Islamic Terrorism from the discussion. |
