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Zac4mac
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Holy Grail of Physics, the Grand Unification Theory just got a HUGE boost with this.
The guys at the 2 LIGO sites will get the Nobel Physics award this year for sure.

http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-355244 40

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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty cool stuff. The size of the rig they had to build to detect them is incredible.
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Damnut
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We are pretty excited about the news here at my work. LIGO has over 200 of our capacitance sensors in their interferometer. The cap sensors play a critical role in the active seismic isolation system that is a part of the interferometer.

(Message edited by Damnut on February 12, 2016)
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 11:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Weighty stuff there. Very cool.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://xkcd.com/1642/


grav wave detector
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 01:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fell asleep trying to watch "The Martian" last nite... had to watch the last "Idol" first.

Fun news about the science, I'm gonna have to learn more about it to grok it.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seriously, it's a very important result.

Gravity waves were just theory until you can measure them. Or at least detect them at all.

Major kudos to Dr. Robert L Forward who is a major pioneer in gravity.

Still don't know how to make gravity.

The Science is Never Settled. We keep learning new things. I hope.
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Figorvonbuellingham
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully it leads to anti gravity.
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Crusty
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 01:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What have you got against gravity?
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gravity can be a real bitch.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My knees, spine, most of my hobbies revolve around cheating gravity.

and, not least, the fact that without gravity or reactionless drives, you need atomic bomb levels of energy, released just a fraction slower, and under much more control, to go to orbit, and the rest of the Universe.

With a ( so far magic ) drive, you still need atom bomb quantities of energy, but not the insane speed of release of that energy, and without the megatons of reaction mass that is most, almost all, of the weight of any reasonable rocket ship.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 04:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hopefully it leads to the government revealing anti gravity technology which they have had since 1947.

Fixed that for you.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Since 1947? You don't really think the pyramids were built using slaves and rollers, do you?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You don't think the Empire State Building was actually riveted together by humans walking hundreds of feet above solid rock, do you? How absurd.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I didn't read the article above, but the one I did read said it could detect the gravity of a single proton up close, and the gravity of a volleyball anywhere in the universe. This is amazing, and might be the best/most sensitive sensor humans have ever built. I mean, that's Star Trek/fantasy level of sensor sensitivity. Maybe we won't have to leave home to map the universe. At least, as it used to be.
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Malott442
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just want to be able to travel faster than light through space by manipulating gravity enough to bend my destination to me.

The effects on the surrounding areas are of no concern to me.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've developed personal time travel, currently running at 1 second per second.
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Etennuly
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 07:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I always thought a gravitation wave was shown when a fat person fell down, first their central mass hits the ground followed by a wave of other mass flowing past the central mass to the ground.
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Science.


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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My time machine only goes forwards at regular speed. And it looks remarkably like a couch.

~demetri martin
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can slow the progress from time...

(just schedule a meeting....)
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pfft. Slow? Try stop.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

True. All it takes is one auditor, there to help.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 11:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Our government didn't build the pyramids.

Duh...
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Malott442
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you could emulate the gravity from enough mass, you could fast forward to when Terry Crews becomes president.

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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, February 12, 2016 - 11:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Taco bell! Think of the revenue! Not to mention the adult tax returns!
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Torquehd
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2016 - 02:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Am I the only one who mistrusts federally-funded agencies?

Did they measure a gravitational bump? Maybe. Can they conclusively say, "This was clearly from two black holes colliding, neato!" I highly doubt it. There couldn't be a trillion different causes for gravitational ripples? I just don't blindly buy into the "official story", especially when it's a brand-new technology, obtaining brand-new results that we know nothing about.

"Trust us, we're from the government".
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2016 - 10:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm skeptical too Jesse. Until the results are duplicated elsewhere, I'll recall the recent (2014) massive hoopla surrounding the "discovery" of polarized cosmic background radiation which supported the theory of cosmic inflation and gravity waves, but was later found to be the result of nothing more than space dust.

http://www.space.com/28423-cosmic-inflation-signal -space-dust.html

How folks figure they've accounted for everything that might affect the readings of such sensitive measurements is too much like over-eager wishful thinking. I've experienced the eagerness to accept early experimental results and simulation results that support desired conclusions. It's a very bad mistake. Ask the folks who failed to account for the space dust.
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, February 13, 2016 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My favorite clip:
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some reading material. My company is mentioned on the second page.

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MicroSense capacitive sensors in LIGO - 2996Matichard.pdf (729.4 k)
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