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Gregtonn
Posted on Friday, January 01, 2016 - 02:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried it for about 24 hours.

Too much data mining.
It even has key logging functions.
Went back to the somewhat less intrusive W7.
The constant Upgrade! pop ups are annoying.

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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, January 01, 2016 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All that nonsense turns off.

Love it, works way better than any version I've used before.

My PC goes from powered off to functioning desktop in about 15 seconds.

My laptop gets there in about 4 seconds.
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Data mining is being overblown, if you are online, you are being data mined regardless what you do or what device you are using. The difference with Microsoft is that they are upfront about it, unlike most other companies that bury it. That said, you can disable all the data mining in Windows 10 should you desire, to bring it down to the levels Windows 7 does

I have just about all my computers and phones, even my Xbox is running 10 now, the performance improvements and all the little conveniences make Windows 7 (and other OSes) feel clunky, slow, and obsolete.
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 01:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Breaking the audio on multiple machines, both from Dell and custom built drove the nail in the coffin for me. Trying to explain to a customer why they have to revert 8 machines back to win7 turned into a nightmare after suggesting that it was "probably OK" to proceed with the win10 upgrade and that it worked pretty good on the one machine I'd built for them at significant expense. That one machine just so happened to have new enough hardware that M$ had drivers available for it all. It was the 4-5 year old equipment that the audio quit working on and was in a production environment. I couldn't test it beforehand, so needless to say it was a bit of a surprise to find out things didn't work out properly.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 08:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had some minor headaches with my win7 to win10 "auto upgrade", and some stupidity when trying to do the clean install with an admittedly goofy license key (one from an MSDN account that is no longer active).

But all in all I have been very happy with the switch. I even bought another copy of it and switched over one of the Linux boxes to run it. I still like Linux, but windows 10 is easier for the kids to use, and windows security and stability is finally up to an acceptable par.

(But the first thing I install on a new windows build is Cygwin and Chrome...)
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Mnrider
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got tired off the pop-ups asking to do it all the time.
Went ahead and loaded it on my cheap ASUS laptop,it works good and it's faster.
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Tootal
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I asked my professional geek friend and he said they were having trouble with 7 machines upgrading to 10. He bought a new unit with 10 on it and it's great but is keeping his 7 units at 7 for now. 7 seems to work flawless for me but then I'm not anywhere near the level of a lot of you folks. If you're old enough to remember "dial up" internet and Window's 98, this Window's 7 is awesome!
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 11:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The upgrade pop ups are easy to fix, get online and search for the kb file that needs to be removed, and one other step. Didn't take me 10 minutes to perform the whole thing.
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Rsh
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 01:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I upgraded my Windows 8 laptop and desktop to Windows 10, no issues.
As for the privacy stuff, you can go into settings/privacy and turn on and off the features you want.
The Cortana feature is kind of weird, unless you are use to talking programs like the iPhone surrey app.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're old enough to remember "dial up" internet and Window's 98, this Window's 7 is awesome!

Windows 98? Hell I'm old enough to remember MSDOS.

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Griffmeister
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Windows 98? Hell I'm old enough to remember MSDOS."

If you're old enough to remember FORTRAN IV and COBOL-74 even Windows 3.11 seemed wonderful.
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Greg_e
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never worked with Fortran or Cobol, but I do remember using cassette tapes for storage.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I remember those. Even did some programing with punch cards.

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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2016 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've upgraded my netbook from 8-10 with no probs. The thing I don't like about it is the difficulty with drivers for peripherals that aren't very old.

I treated myself to a ASUS laptop on W10 for xmas, quad core processor, 8gb of ram, dvd reader/writer etc.
What a load of crap! keyboard settings kept changing on their own & after 10 days it stopped charging & wouldn't start.
To be fair Office Depot reimbursed me no questions.
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Etennuly
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 05:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I played PONG.
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Tootal
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pong was great when it came out!

First computer I worked on was an IBM 360 running DOS. It filled a large room. It was my job to keep the blinky lights blinking.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Helped a neighbor with a win 7 box last night, and was thinking of this thread.

Update to windows 10 now. Do a clean install, enter your windows 7 product key, and live well.

Helping them helped me remember how much I forgot that others don't already "just know". Its a lot, and about half of it is done for you automatically on windows 10 versus windows 7.

There are privacy concerns with the default settings on windows 10, at least in terms of how much information microsoft gets and what it does with that information. All of which is utterly and totally insignificant compared to what kind of awful crap a hacker will do to an improperly protected windows 7 (or worse) box if they crack it. If you don't know enough to either accept or disable the windows 10 "normal privacy leakage", you probably don't know enough to lock down a windows 7 box either, so windows 10 would *still* be a net gain in terms of actual privacy risks.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2016 - 10:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch has a point. The OpenOffice.org suite gives most folks everything they'd need. I'm sorely tempted to head to the Linux side.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's easier than you might expect.
Ubuntu is a great stating point for migration.
and you get endless possibilities for security.
the open source community is very concerned about security.
it's not just for geeks anymore
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hell I'm old enough to remember MSDOS.
I remember taking BASIC at tech school, on a Commodore, screwing it constantly is how I got the name "Glitch"


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Natexlh1000
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

CBM? Is that even older than a VIC-20?
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah the VIC was in the 80s I believe, I was using the CBM in the mid late 70s.
They weren't too different though, the CBM was marketed to business and the VIC was more of a home computer.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still have my 64, with external floppy drive, tape drive, dot matrix printer, and monitor in a big box.

'Course, I still have my first 386 too. For all the good it will ever do me.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That external floppy disk drive was $250 by the way. I choke every time I think about how much money I've spent on hardware over the years, and what I can get now for a fraction of the cost.
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Gregtonn
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amazing what you could do with a couple hundred KB of memory back then.

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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 12:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The game was to see how close you could get to 640K with all your device drivers and TSRs loaded.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first was an Atari 400 built in a Van's shoebox for a case... with a Radio Shack keyboard taken off a TRS-80 and a 110bps pulse dialing modem, and no storage device at all... finally got a tape drive.

It had 16k of RAM. I added another 32k of ram by using a modified game cartridge.

...good times
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, January 04, 2016 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol good times. Back in my day our computers could only beep at us, and had green, or if you were fancy, amber screens. And we liked it that way! Darn kids with your rock and roll music.
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