| Author | Message | ||
     Reindog |
Greetings Americans, from the belly of the beast: Laurie and I are in Seattle for a wedding. Is anyone going to step up and make a case that Mrs. Clinton will make a great pResident? Anyone?  | ||
| Joel9 |
"You've got jail!" LOL Keep up the good work Reindog! Have fun with the wedding in Seattle, Seafair going on this weekend! Floating bridges closing down, traffic nightmare. The Blue Angles are cool though, flying right over my house!! | ||
| Glitch |
Is anyone going to step up and make a case that Mrs. Clinton will make a great pResident? No but, if she comes out saying she's a gay man in drag, she'll be unstoppable | ||
| Sifo |
  | ||
| Sifo |
 | ||
| Reindog |
Do YOU really want four years of this fecal matter? Really?   | ||
| Sifo |
 | ||
| Sifo |
 | ||
| Sifo |
When was the last time that the frontrunner in a Presidential election has been under criminal investigation from the FBI? I know... I know... She hasn't been convicted of anything... YET. It all has to start when they actually investigate to find out exactly what transpired. http://nypost.com/2015/08/05/fbi-investigation-of- hillarys-emails-is-criminal-probe/ How long before our DOJ comes to the rescue and shuts the whole thing down? | ||
| Sifo |
 | ||
| Sifo |
When I ran across this I had a hard time accepting it as an actual quote, so I checked it out.  Turns out it's from this 2009 interview... http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/12/magazine/12ginsburg-t.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 Tell me again how progressives aren't racist SOBs. | ||
| Hootowl |
They rely on ignorant voters. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Yall so focused on this and yet no comments from the debate last night? | ||
| Sifo |
Yall so focused on this and yet no comments from the debate last night? No comment on this other than looking the other way? You OK with this? | ||
| Sifo |
Hybrid, I guess you have no outrage about the fact that a Supreme Court justice has admitted that the law that they created from whole cloth is a sham with racist motives. Little more than legalizing genocide of a minority race. It's well known that the founder of Planned Parenthood had this in mind when pushing for legalizing abortions, but to hear this from a member of the highest court in the land is pretty astounding. This is the reality of recent history of the Democrat party, and it appears to have not changed. Meanwhile, the corruption and dishonesty continues... Cheryl Mills To Destroy Emails About Boss Hillary Clinton  | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Who said I have no outrage? Because I dont post in this thread? | ||
| Sifo |
But you did post in this thread. To complain about me focusing my time on Ginsburg's comments on Roe v. Wade. So frankly, I don't know if you're OK with this or not. All you've done is complain about it being brought up. What should be my take on that? | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Where did I complain about you focusing on Roe v Wade? Please quote my post where I did such a thing | ||
| Sifo |
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2015 - 09:46 am: Yall so focused on this and yet no comments from the debate last night? Was that not you? | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Yep...but how is that complaining about posting what you did. Read my post, it was complaining how all you Rs are totally ignoring the R thread. Please, continue to complain about planned parenthood, the Benghazi stuff, all the lies of Hillary etc - seriously. But I'd hope that the Rs on this site would be AS active in the R thread. So again, how is that complaining about you posting about Roe v Wade? | ||
| Sifo |
You certainly seem to be implying that I should have been posting about R instead of D. Again. Of course, I hadn't seen the debate, but I had seen the Roe v. Wade bit. Why do you keep coming back to this, but avoiding the question I've asked? Never mind. I've got a pretty good idea. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Yes, I agree - you SHOULD be posting about Rs (assumed you were an R) haha This was the first debate of the election and there were more posts HERE (D) than there were following the debate. Ok, here is your answer: Nope, not ok with it (on PP/abortions) | ||
| Tod662 |
Sifo do you really read the Ginsburg quote the same when it isn't taken out of context??? And her position is much more clear if you read the whole article. " Q: Are you talking about the distances women have to travel because in parts of the country, abortion is essentially unavailable, because there are so few doctors and clinics that do the procedure? And also, the lack of Medicaid for abortions for poor women? JUSTICE GINSBURG: Yes, the ruling about that surprised me. [Harris v. McRae — in 1980 the court upheld the Hyde Amendment, which forbids the use of Medicaid for abortions.] Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong. " "Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them." Imagine that conservatives spinning half truths to spread lies, hate and fear The spreading of that lie when you even have the source you`supposedly researched is what I would call willful ignorance (Message edited by tod662 on August 08, 2015) | ||
| Tod662 |
instead of the soap opera that is the R party here is somethings with sustenance. (and this is back in Oct. of 2012, just Bernie being Bernie) "Sen. Bernie Sanders fired back at 80 CEOs who wrote a letter lecturing America about deficit reduction by released a report detailing how 18 of these CEOs have wrecked the economy by evading taxes and outsourcing jobs. 80 CEO’s raised the ire of Sen. Sanders by publishing a letter in the Wall Street Journal urging America to act on the deficit, and reform Medicare and Medicaid. Sen. Sanders responded to the lecture from America’s CEO’s by releasing a report that detailed how 18 of them have helped blow up the deficit and wreck the economy by outsourcing jobs and evading US taxes. Sanders said, There really is no shame. The Wall Street leaders whose recklessness and illegal behavior caused this terrible recession are now lecturing the American people on the need for courage to deal with the nation’s finances and deficit crisis. Before telling us why we should cut Social Security, Medicare and other vitally important programs, these CEOs might want to take a hard look at their responsibility for causing the deficit and this terrible recession. Our Wall Street friends might also want to show some courage of their own by suggesting that the wealthiest people in this country, like them, start paying their fair share of taxes. They might work to end the outrageous corporate loopholes, tax havens and outsourcing provisions that their lobbyists have littered throughout the tax code – contributing greatly to our deficit. Many of the CEO’s who signed the deficit-reduction letter run corporations that evaded at least $34.5 billion in taxes by setting up more than 600 subsidiaries in the Cayman Islands and other offshore tax havens since 2008. As a result, at least a dozen of the companies avoided paying any federal income taxes in recent years, and even received more than $6.4 billion in tax refunds from the IRS since 2008. Several of the companies received a total taxpayer bailout of more than $2.5 trillion from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department. Many of the companies also have outsourced hundreds of thousands of American jobs to China and other low wage countries, forcing their workers to receive unemployment insurance and other federal benefits. In other words, these are some of the same people who have significantly caused the deficit to explode over the last four years. Here are the 18 CEO’s Sanders labeled job destroyers in his report. (All data from Top Corporate Dodgers report.) 1). 1. Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $1.9 billion tax refund. Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? Over $1.3 trillion. Amount of federal income taxes Bank of America would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.6 billion. 2). Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $278 million tax refund. Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $824 billion. Amount of federal income taxes Goldman Sachs would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $2.7 billion 3). JP Morgan Chase CEO James Dimon Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department? $416 billion. Amount of federal income taxes JP Morgan Chase would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.9 billion. 4). General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $3.3 billion tax refund. Taxpayer Bailout from the Federal Reserve? $16 billion. Jobs Shipped Overseas? At least 25,000 since 2001. 5). Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $705 million tax refund. American Jobs Cut in 2010? In 2010, Verizon announced 13,000 job cuts, the third highest corporate layoff total that year. 6). Boeing CEO James McNerney, Jr. Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? None. $124 million tax refund. American Jobs Shipped overseas? Over 57,000. Amount of Corporate Welfare? At least $58 billion. 7). Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer Amount of federal income taxes Microsoft would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $19.4 billion. 8). Honeywell International CEO David Cote Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $34 million tax refund. 9). Corning CEO Wendell Weeks Amount of federal income taxes paid from 2008-2010? Zero. $4 million tax refund. 10). Time Warner CEO Glenn Britt Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $74 million tax refund. 11). Merck CEO Kenneth Frazier Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $55 million tax refund. 12). Deere & Company CEO Samuel Allen Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2009? Zero. $1 million tax refund. 13). Marsh & McLennan Companies CEO Brian Duperreault Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2010? Zero. $90 million refund. 14). Qualcomm CEO Paul Jacobs Amount of federal income taxes Qualcomm would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $4.7 billion. 15). Tenneco CEO Gregg Sherill Amount of federal income taxes Tenneco would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $269 million. 16). Express Scripts CEO George Paz Amount of federal income taxes Express Scripts would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $20 million. 17). Caesars Entertainment CEO Gary Loveman Amount of federal income taxes Caesars Entertainment would have owed if offshore tax havens were eliminated? $9 million. 18). R.R. Donnelly & Sons CEO Thomas Quinlan III Amount of federal income taxes paid in 2008? Zero. $49 million tax refund. Eighteen of the 80 CEOs who signed the call for deficit action are actually some of the biggest outsourcers and tax cheats in America. First, they crashed the economy in 2008. They followed that up by taking billions in taxpayer bailout dollars. Their next step was to outsource jobs and evade taxes. Now they are calling for action on a deficit that they helped create over the past four years. Bernie Sanders is exposing the hypocrisy of these CEOs, and every American should understand that if Mitt Romney is elected president, these pigs see potential for unlimited feeding from the taxpayer trough. Only by standing together can we tell these CEOs that the bill has come due, and it is time for them to pay. We can tell these gluttons of our dollars that the all you can eat taxpayer buffet is now closed." | ||
| Jon |
Is this a joke thread? | ||
| Ezblast |
Must be - no one says anything about Bernie. EZ | ||
| Court |
Actually it is a joke . . . . .but, perhaps we'll be treated to what ANY of those listed above did wrong. Your Congress made the tax laws. Your I.R.S enforce them. If, presuming the above are accurate, how come the Feds have done nothing? Hint: because not a single law was broken. By the way .....you've omitted another name who has benefited from off shore tax shelter laws. Take a guess? Hint: he lives in the White House (temporarily) | ||
| Tod662 |
So Court if its legal its OK, and right to do? | ||
| Sifo |
Sure, lets look at her meaning sentence by sentence. In context.
So it looks like she's talking about the McRae case that took medicaid funding away for abortion procedures.
Now she goes back a few years to Roe v. Wade, the case that legalized abortion. Please keep in mind these are her words here. So in her mind, Roe v. Wade dealt with concerns that a certain segment of the population was growing too fast. A certain segment of the population that, in her mind, "we don't want to have too many of". A certain segment of the population that was heavily reliant on Medicaid. I can only guess what that certain segment of the population might be that she had in mind.
So in her mind, making abortions free to this poor segment of the population, would in effect have a larger percentage of abortions happen, than if it weren't free. Makes sense to me, it's a basic law of supply and demand. Offer free pizza and you are going to sell a whole bunch of pizza, right?
So it was the McRae case that took away the free abortions that convinced her that she was wrong about abortions being used as a means of controlling the population of those menacing minorities that she didn't really want too many of. That all seems innocent enough, right? Of course that changes nothing about her views that offering free abortions is a convenient way to control the population of those pesky minorities that we don't want multiplying like rabbits. But was she really all together wrong? She was wrong that medicaid would be the vehicle to control the population of the unwanted masses. That was changed by McRae. Planned Parenthood sure makes for a nice substitute though, doesn't it. Is it any coincidence that PP started it's clinics, and continues to focus on providing abortions where these unwanted populations live? Is it any coincidence that Ginsburg continues to be a strong defender of both the abortion procedure and PP? Was she wrong that providing abortions, free of charge, in the inner cities, would have a very disproportionate impact one the population that she saw as being undesirable, as opposed to other segments? Is not disproportionate impact, especially when it's part of the design, the very definition of racism? Many court cases have found disproportionate impact to be enough cause in itself to be considered racist. Certainly when you are consciously stacking the deck to achieve that disproportionate impact in a way that hurts a minority community has to be considered racist, doesn't it? So in what way exactly is Ginsburg not a racist, sitting on the Supreme Court of the US, who would set policy to commit genocide against a portion of the population that she considers undesirable? | ||
| Tod662 |
JUSTICE GINSBURG: "The basic thing is that the government has no business making that choice for a woman." Those are words that are clear and concise and follow your half truth by about a sentence. Thats her stance on the issue it looks to me like. Read your whole article, show me where her actions align with the slant you have been spoon fed. Come on, you should have no problem finding other language in her court decisions that back your twisted claim. |
