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86129squids
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2015 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am lusting after EVERY bike in the above picture. Someday, I'd LOOOVE to own an S3T. All of those bikes are gawwgis, but didn't they make some with purple frames?

Also, thanks for posting up the Buell Values. Wisdom can be a scarce thing- condensed, golden nuggets of true brilliance such as this creed are hard to come by.
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Airbozo
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2015 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nuclear Blue to be exact. Looks purple from most angles, Blue from others...

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Badlionsfan
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2015 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Damn didn't mean to open this can of worms!

Sorry Blake.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, February 13, 2015 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Blake!
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikes for Sale is back online.

Sorry for the delay.

Nice to see the enthusiasm continue and old friends chime in.
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Bozo! That's a kewl looking ride, but I DO remember distinctly seeing a few with purple frames- I happened upon a dude once waaay up on the Cherohala who had one of the sweetest tube frames I'd ever seen...

Oh well. I'd be hard pressed to add a third bike at all, much less one of these. 2015 should bring me a good D/S bike sooner or later...
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Blake.
Got to see what I can't afford every so often...
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86129squids
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Kmbuell
Posted on Saturday, February 14, 2015 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Great job, thanks for all you do.
Kevin
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So is there ever any hope of moving boards to a better/friendlier software?

Lots of people on here, myself included, that would be filling to donate time and money to the project. And it seems that all of the people against it are against it for the 'wrong' reasons ("everyone that i like is here..."), reasons that dont really matter as the same people would be on the new board.
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Steeleagle
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the format on this board. I've found all other boards to be MUCH more cumbersome to try and navigate, find pertinent topics, etc. The simplicity of this board appeals to me. No silly avatars, special sayings, list of likes, etc. to go with every comment by the authors to clutter the pages up.

I understand the issues with the vintage of the software and maintenance, but I'm only commenting as a happy user. It has nothing to do with the people I know here, as most would hesitate to admit knowing me!!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't start the argument arguing for a solution, start the argument by defining the problem you are trying to solve.

What can't you do with this board that you want to do (specific and objective, not subjective and opinion based)?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1: I can't use STANDARD formatting to post messages.
2: I can't change the THEME, or even the colors.
3: Private Messages are not reliable.

Band aids for bullet wounds.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

No silly avatars, special sayings, list of likes, etc. to go with every comment by the authors to clutter the pages up.




This board supports them too. Most of the "bling" has been disabled over the years due to repeated abuse.


quote:


What can't you do with this board that you want to do (specific and objective, not subjective and opinion based)?




Reliably send/receive PMs.
Attach file types that were invented after 1996 like Docx
Break threads into easy to view and numbered pages
Search within a thread
Block users
Tag threads
Automatically resize pictures, as that is difficult to manually do on a mobile device.
One click post quoting
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Greg_e
Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2015 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All the "silly" stuff could be turned off in the "modern" forums too. Should be able to move the usernames, but passwords would likely need to be reset.

Would be nice to have contiguous threads instead of being broken into archives by post number or by time limit.

Standard formatting would be real nice.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"What can't you do with this board that you want to do (specific and objective, not subjective and opinion based)?"

easily post video and pictures

PMs that are easy to use (ex: I got a PM yesterday, when i received PM I have to copy and paste email address into a new email to reply to it...no other board is like this)

'bump' older threads up, on here once it goes to archive its gone. So if you get on here and search for something, you might find a thread that deals with your topic but you are unable to reply to that topic with any hope that someone will see your reply.

speaking of searching...
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Those are good clear problems that could be solved.

1) Good presentation and accessibility of all posts and threads in a consistent context and appearance, regardless of age. (i.e. no archived threads)

2) Simple posting and inclusion of both hosted or externally referenced images, sound files, and video files.

3) Highly reliable private member to member messaging service.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

also, an easy way to quote someone would be nice
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

also, an easy way to quote someone would be nice




Agreed with the need, but the quote capability here is the best I have found. Simple and fast, just copy, paste, and put \quote{blah} around it...
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Simple and fast, just copy, paste, and put \quote{blah} around it...

Or you can just make the quote blue, as has been a convention here. Wrap with \blue{blah}.

Better support for a variety of video files would be nice, especially if it's true that youtube is about to break what we have. Better support for image files too. The current PM system is weak at best.

Still, there is a certain elegance in the simplicity of this board. It's not the software that makes it a good board though. It's the content. Is The Adventures Of Huckelberry Finn a better story read on a Kindle?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 02:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

" but the quote capability here is the best I have found. Simple and fast, just copy, paste, and put

quote:

blah


around it..."

yeah, thats WAY easier than hitting a button that says "quote" and moving on...
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hybrid,

You are starting to sound like you should start your own Buell bulletin board.

This is Blake's board and he will lead it. It is way more than OK to make suggestions here but accept the fact that it might not change. I personally don't mind the look and feel of Badweb. The best argument for change is that Discus will ultimately crash and be unsupported. The same is true of Buell parts availability.

(Message edited by reindog on February 19, 2015)
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting that you arent pointing out the others that welcome a change. Interesting.

I stated earlier that I have zero interest in my own board.
As for 'the best argument for change is that discus will ultimately crash and be unsupported" well I guess part of that is the reason this thread even exists - subforums just disappear
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>yeah, thats WAY easier than hitting a button that says "quote" and moving on...

Not exactly.

But we use something called VBulletin on the Porsche board and it's a roaring piece of crap. There is so much stuff scattered all over the page it's nearly impossible to read. Each and every post has a "signature" that contains more stupid information about folks, avatars, ownership history and so forth . . than you ever want or need to know..

I suppose it has lots of bells and whistles. Perhaps that's why we get tapped for $$$ every year citing the fact that it's "very expensive to operate".

I know . . . after all these year . . .i come here . . click once and see ever post that's been tendered since my last visit. The search function is dodgy . . but I always seem to find pretty much what I am looking for,

I am . . I confess . . at the moment . . looking for those posts to the naysayers last year in which I predicted a big turn-around for EBR in WSBK this year.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But, if I am not mistaken, Froggy said that this forum has the same possibilities -but that it is turned off.
The same could be done with vbulletin or phpbb (I mayve mentioned this before on this thread or elsewhere, have owned/ran two phpbb sites, so I know things can be turned on/off).

phpbb is free (I THINK Vbulletin costs, or at least it did a decade ago) and all the sig lines etc could be disabled just like here.

An above poster asked for legitimate, non-opinionated reasons for a change, several have been brought up. Yes, I remember your posts about ERB/WSBK, but understand your frustration with searching for them.

Ive said it before (in this thread, I believe), I am glad that Blake made this board and certain posters are on here, the amount of knowledge is unreal. Just stating that there are far superior versions of discussion boards available that wouldnt have subforums dropped off randomly, while offering things such as easy quoting, posting pics/videos, and PMing
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Court
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 05:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Just stating that there are far superior versions of discussion boards available

No doubt about that . . . . .and we agree on, it appears, everything.

I see no compelling reason to change if Blake is familiar with the current product and able to manage it.

The time will come, as the EBR Owner's Group emerges, that Badweb will slowly begin to self extinguish anyway.

These things have a finite life. Badweb's heyday was around 2000 and, at this point, it's greatest value is serving as a repository for knowledge as Buell support ebbs.

Having gone through that with Buell Motor Company, before Buell Motorcycle Company, I've got a sense of the events and the timing along the way.

It is good, as there have been a lot of folks acquiring used Buells as they become silly cheap, and Badweb serves as pretty much the only, in concert with American Sport Bike, source of reliable information.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

subforums just disappear

Don't for a second think that this can't happen with other software. It's all just a relational database, and indexes get corrupted, even in the biggest/best ones. I really don't see this as a big issue. The PM thing is a bigger issue IMO, but how necessary is it really to "fix" any of it?
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 07:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"
The time will come, as the EBR Owner's Group emerges, that Badweb will slowly begin to self extinguish anyway. "

Im sorry, but I disagree with this
I dont see BadWeb going away as EBR machines grow, the amount of information here, though sometimes hard to access if it's older, is invaluable.
I can see a EBR forum getting big, but that doesnt mean people will migrate away from this because of that. Many people, myself inlcuded, cant afford an $18k motorcycle, but a $3k tuber is easy to get.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo -I am sure it CAN happen on other forums, but I've never seen it/experienced it.

Is it important to have an easy-to-use PM system...nah, not really. But if the cost is the same monthly then why not have the features/benefits to make the easier to use and access?
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2015 - 07:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

But, if I am not mistaken, Froggy said that this forum has the same possibilities -but that it is turned off.




Indeed. It looks like they are gone now, but at one point you could go into the archive and look at the posts from the late 90s and early 2000s and see the avatars. You used to be able to vote on posts up till sometime in 2007.

That stuff can easily be enabled/disabled in Vbulliten too. I understand signatures cluttering a board, but personally I don't mind avatars, they help me identify with people, but I do understand that they are easily abused by people not wanting to stick with the PG rated theme of the board.


quote:

phpbb is free (I THINK Vbulletin costs, or at least it did a decade ago) and all the sig lines etc could be disabled just like here.




Phpbb absolutely blows, it ranks as the second worse forum software, behind Discus of course : )

We have the license for VB already (not sure if it still works with the current version


quote:

I suppose it has lots of bells and whistles. Perhaps that's why we get tapped for $$$ every year citing the fact that it's "very expensive to operate".




Likely is just terrible management. While the more popular a board is the more it will cost to run, just simply being on Vbulletin is not why it is expensive.
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