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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fly business class : )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 12:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The UK does have Bently and Rolls Royce. Sure beats a Cadillac.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 01:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wouldn't worry about the UK if I didn't care about the UK. So when I bitch about some new stinking pile of crap foisted upon her peoples, it's out of love, really.
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Jb2
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 03:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>> Tell me gentlemen, is there anything we Brit's do better than our American cousins?

Boiled meat. Servitude to the Royal Family?
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Tell me gentlemen, is there anything we Brit's do better than our American cousins?"

1. Comedy.
2. Luxury cars.
3. Football (soccer to us colonists)
4. Motorcycles, with one notable exception.

I'm sure one of you Brits can add more.

Oh...

5. Making lists of things Britain is better at than the US : )
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99savage
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Throw in luxury guns while you are at it

If you have a British double you have really made it
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not military though, don't get us started on the SA80 debacle.
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99savage
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 07:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

During the period of The Great War the saying was:
* The Americans have the best Target Rifle
* The Germans have the best Hunting Rifle
* The British have the best Battle Rifle
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 08:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The 303 Lee Enfield was the business I grant you, SA80 much less so.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 06, 2014 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I actually wasn't that impressed with any of the Enfields... not bad guns, but they felt more like they were on the Mosin end of the spectrum, as opposed to the M1 Garand / Swedish Mauser end of the spectrum.

And Hoot is right. English comedy is hands down brilliant. From Top Gear to Monty Python.
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Chauly
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 08:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It comes from speaking English as their primary language...
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

German Mausers and 1903's were the best of the lot. The others, functional.



Enfields are nice, perhaps innovative for their day, but not particularly notable for build quality or fineness of action.


The 1903 was certainly not innovative, but refined.

I'm certainly no expert, but have handled examined and fired a few examples.

The Garand...now that's a battle rifle.

They are a pleasure to shoot, instead of just tolerable, and say "get off my lawn better than anything else.
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99savage
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One more British item that is about the best in the world

Martini target rifle

Trigger pull like breaking an icicle, not particularly light but absolutely perfect


p.s.: The M1 was not around for The Great War
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 11:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you've an hour or so watch this.



If you've several days most of the episodes are available.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

During the period of The Great War the saying was:
* The Americans have the best Target Rifle
* The Germans have the best Hunting Rifle
* The British have the best Battle Rifle


Actually the quote is from P.O.Ackley, not certain of date but since he was born in 1903 certainly post war.

The comment on the British is because the Enfield action cocks on close. This takes less effort to open the bolt and moves the hard part to close, where the muscle leverage is best. This makes an Enfield faster to cycle, and the Germans thought British and Canadian troops so equipped had machine guns.

The lightened Mk 5 "jungle Carbine" was an inter war development, and the lightening cuts say many, compromise accuracy. The WW1 versions were as nice as one could ask.

Butt ugly too, but who cares if it works.

The U.S. built an Enfield version.... from wiki The Pattern 1914 Enfield and M1917 Enfield rifles are based on the Enfield-designed P1913, itself a Mauser 98 derivative and not based on the Lee action, and are not part of the Lee-Enfield family of rifles, although they are frequently assumed to be A completely different rifle, and used by the US and England. Favored by more than a few.

The U.S. M1903 Springfield was also a 1898 Mauser "knock off". It was an improved version of the Mauser in many ways and the US paid royalties to Mauser for use of the design. The M1903 is pretty much the classic US rifle and was carried throughout BOTH world wars. Millions were converted to hunting rifles and people still use the action as a base for a custom rifle, more than a century after it was introduced.

So, don't knock the Lee Enfield. They shoot.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, October 07, 2014 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love 280 Ackley improved for long range 1000yrd matches
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