no, its not, I thought it was clear that I was inquiring about Antigravity batteries.
But since youve had the first decent post in this thread, and Im not familiar with Shorai either, tell me about your experiences with them - durability, how long they last, what else needs to be purchased to use (special chargers? etc)
I use a total loss electrical system on the racebike so I use their balancing charger between race weekends and a "normal" charger between races. I can't comment on durability since it's just once a month - maybe a dozen start, run, re-charges.
Sunny put one in her VF500F (1984) and we only every once in a while put it on the Shorai charger. We've had no problems running it on the long Laguna Seca weekend. The old charging system seems to keep it going just fine.
They have a good website and respond to tech questions. They also can cross-reference to stock batteries. Weight is amazing. Lift one - it's startling. About 1/4 the weight of AGM batteries.
EBR uses Shorai as their OEM battery for the 1190rx. Hopefully that means Shorai fixed the issues with them exploding and lying about their capabilities.
So does Shorai or Antigravity batteries have the load balancing circuitry built into them as has been discussed in the past? Is this really a necessary feature? I'm looking at a new battery for my Sprint ST which has really abused it's battery over the past two riding seasons with a variety of charging system failures. That bike is known for being very sensitive about having a battery in top condition. This may be a reliable solution assuming that the charging system stays stable now that everything involved has been replaced.
I recommend going at least to the next size up with the shorai as a minimum. If I was replacing an OEM battery I'd go with the largest, highest rated bat. that would fit. If you need starting at low temps, they need warmed up. My TW200 calls for a LFX09L2-BS12 battery. So, I put a LFX14L2-BS12. I kick start it when it is cold out. No computer stuff on the bike means no need for charging even if I don't winter ride. If I use one in a newer bike I'll use a quick disconnect for the battery.
When it came in the mail and I took it out of the box, My first thought was this is a joke. Light is an understatement and such a cute little battery. Looks like a toy.
In that case I personally I would avoid a Lithium based battery for now, they are way more sensitive to abuse from charging system failures than lead. Allegedly Shorai now has overvoltage protection, but if that is not true and your regulator starts overcharging the battery, it can literally burst. I've seen many pictures of it happen. Also they are more sensitive to a total discharge than lead, shortening their life prematurely. If you got the kinks worked out, then go for it, otherwise I'd stick to the tried and true.
I'm pretty sure the kinks are worked out at this point. Regulator has been upgraded to a MOSFET design supplied by a good aftermarket source. Stator failed a few thousand miles back, but has been solid since then. The connector from the stator to regulator recently burned itself to a crisp. That has been modified to a far more permanent connection that should be trouble free. Those failures I'm sure have taken their toll on the current battery. I have no reason to think that problems will continue however. It still may be cheaper to just plan on a new AGM battery every couple of years though.
Antigravity claims to be made in the US, but Shorai is unabashedly made in China. Shorai had a booth at the MC show in San Mateo, its true they are amazingly light weight. I'm looking at the Ballistic Performance EVO as my next battery. Slightly lighter than Anti-G, and also made in USA.
I just picked up a standard AGM today. I figured if it doesn't solve the issues I'm having, I may not want to keep the bike if I can't find the source. Still flaky starting. I don't know.
I test rode the Triumph 800 Tiger while I was there. Despite not being the most powerful bike, it's really impressive. Comfortable, smooth, good handling, and would make a great sport touring bike. I can see one in my future! I'll be taking the Sprint on about a 1K mile holiday weekend and see how things go. The occasional hard start seems to remain though.
Man, that 800 Tiger was comfy! Who's got one? Any issues?
Hybrid, I don't have an Antigravity battery, but I do have a Ballistic 12 cell model. I've had it 4 months and 4,000 miles without issues. Dan @ NRHS swears by EarthX, which is what I'll eventually replace mine with when it quits out, though they are supposed to last like 10 years. I've ridden in all temperatures as well without issue. It does take few bumps (with 5 sec breaks between) of the starter to start it on the coldest of mornings, because the battery has to warm up into it's operating temp, but it's never failed to start afterward. I've never had to charge it so I can't attest to that one way or the other.