| Author | Message | ||
     Reepicheep |
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=497_1386015636#MHa0 4Qq7Rcx7wYPz.01 Very cool stuff... | ||
| 46champ |
Was kind of interesting. I wish I understood half the math. The comments were interesting. I wonder if warping space will also warp the stray 100,000 ton comet nucleus that just happens to be in your way out in the oort cloud. | ||
| Blake |
This moves the idea of ET into a whole new light. | ||
| Sifo |
Honestly, I have a hard time grasping the idea of moving through space, but not really moving. Is there a boundary layer? If so what's going on in the boundary layer? Do those outside of the warp bubble see space being warped, or is that something that is only relative to the warp bubble? If this is really feasible it's a game changer. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Everything should be relative. If I see something that is there, and then it is not there, I will cease to see it. If spacetime is bent to the will of the traveler, what business is that of mine? It's not. As it stands, I'm currently late for the 4:30 autogyro to the Prussian consulate in Siam. | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
Donald Moffit "The Jupiter Theft". A good read. | ||
| Blake |
It's interesting and very thought provoking that our solar system contains entire planets and moons of planets comprised of fuel. I'm guessing that book relates to that interesting fact. | ||
| Blake |
Tom, Why do you say "not really moving"? | ||
| Sifo |
From the link...
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| Reepicheep |
Which also implies faster than light travel without whacked out effects of time dilation... Which is at the front of my mind as I am currently reading the Ender quartet, and the reality of time dilation plays heavily in those story lines. To think that warp travel could be (a) possible in the first place (b) Not require insane levels of fuel (c) Not subject to relativistic time dilation Seems too good to be true. Were it a sci-fi novel, I would have had to work hard to accept it even trying to have a willing suspension of disbelief. | ||
| Sifo |
Were it a sci-fi novel, I would have had to work hard to accept it even trying to have a willing suspension of disbelief. I have to work hard to accept a lot of what has been predicted by Einsteins work. Warps my mind it does! | ||
| Kev_m |
LOL - Reep - I started those books a week or two ago - almost done with #3 Xenocide. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I had read Enders game before, and watching the movie made me want to read the next ones in the series. Amazon and the Kindle has really upped the amount of reading I do... | ||
| Kev_m |
I haven't seen the movie yet, but wanting to read Enders before seeing it was my motivation for starting the series. I've got a good amount of sci-fi loaded to Calibre and I just email myself an Epub file when I feel like reading something on my Droid. I really like how convenient it is to have one or two books handy in my phone at all times. Oh, and an S3T repair manual now too lol  | ||
| Midknyte |
>I've got a good amount of sci-fi loaded to Calibre and I just email myself an Epub file when I feel like reading something on my Droid. I've taken to loading my tablet with Calibre via exporting/saving to a dropbox synched folder. | ||
| Kev_m |
I've literally just been too lazy to plug the droid into the laptop anytime recently... but yeah, I should just load it that way. | ||
| 86129squids |
We just got back in from watching a matinee for Ender's Game... enjoyable, but as usual the book is better. The movie had very little to say about the Ansible, which is integral to the story and the sequels. I'll have to head to my fave used bookstore and pick up the series again- read it twice through 3 or 4 books, but that was over a decade ago. Got my aquarium jones fixed proper, maybe it's time to reboot my sci-fi mind. | ||
| Hootowl |
I hear ya. They completely left out Locke and Demosthenes, though their story is more important for Speaker for the Dead than it is for Ender's Game. Pick up the companion novels, the shadow series, starting with Ender's Shadow. Book one takes place in parallel with Ender's Game, but from Bean's perspective. The rest of the series covers the ensuing wars on Earth. Worth a read, and a re-read. Not too many books fit that bill. FYI, Amazon has the four Ender novels in a boxed set for $20. Same with the Bean novels. | ||
| Hootowl |
There's an interesting foreword in the latest edition of Ender's game too. Seems he only fleshed out the novella that Ender's Game is based upon into a novel so he could write Speaker for the Dead. He needed a back story for the Speaker. | ||
| Hootowl |
Ahead warp factor 1. Trying to stay on topic  | ||
| Sifo |
So who's your favorite sci-fi writers? Mine by far was Asimov. Haven't read much sci-fi lately though. | ||
| Sifo |
The original topic is in a bubble and isn't moving. It's probably air cooled too.  | ||
| Reepicheep |
Its the quick board, the topic can go wherever the hell it damn well wants to. It must remain at sublight speeds however, as Blake is paying the power bill, and he can't afford Jupier. | ||
| Sifo |
He probably can't afford Jupiter either. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Seems odd to me there's a bubble to be had yet a telescope can see as far back as a few thousand years after the big bang theory. If we measure the distance of where that telescope sees the big bang (or close to) that's an awful lot of miles a lot of noughts I can not fathom would require. Am I expected to believe I could get there by sitting in a bubble between a neg and pos space time conundrum? Feck off it's bollocks, lol. My Buell would get further than this theory. Fact! Rocket in England | ||
| Aesquire |
Looks like an interesting concept, if you can get some unobtainium, and a great deal of Rareite. You just power it with Zero-point energy. The downside is none of that is available. ( except the Rareite, but it's expensive ) Still, when E=MC2 was proposed, nobody had plans for a reactor. There's also a cloaking device in the works. So far it works for radar, if the object you're hiding is really thin. Really thin. But they're working on visible frequencies, and larger objects. Just to really get people upset, I enjoyed the "Ender's Game" book, am debating seeing the movie, and will not re-read before, so at to minimize the "not as good as the book" angst. I'm not a big Card fan, though. I didn't like the sequels as much, and after "Speaker" don't even care. Nothing to do with politics, I just like hard SF and while Card has some nifty ideas, he hasn't made me a fan. Asimov, Heinlein, Clarke, Schmitz, Anderson, Laumer.......... Giants. "Childhoods End" is a masterpiece. Pretty much anything by Heinlein is good, but for the love of Baal, don't start with "Number Of The Beast", since that's his fan service post stroke novel, and while I like it, it uses characters from previous books, and can be confusing. He figured "this ones for the fans" and if you don't know who a character is, you'd better go re-red the original book. Asimov's best stuff IMHO was his science writing. Not that the Robot or Foundation series are bad, he just really shines in the Science stuff. Older, but still active, writers like Niven & Pournelle still write stuff that is so far past a typical Syfy movie, it's not the same genre. Niven's "A World Out Of Time", the Known Space Series, & "The Magic Goes Away" are all ground breaking classics today, and his Collaborations with Jerry Pournelle, in "Lucifer's Hammer" ( makes every "asteroid doom" movie look like a fairy tale ) "Footfall" ( alien invasion ) and "Oath Of Fealty" ( arcology ) rule. Niven also isn't afraid of science, although he does use handwavium for some alien technology, because, well, we don't even have a theory yet. Directly to the subject at hand........ What does it look like when you look out the window on the threads hyperdrive ship? Think on that one. In Niven's 'verse, the windows disappear into the "blind spot" ( basic anatomy, right? the place on the retina where the nerves and blood vessels attach? Your brain fills in the blind spot with data from the other eye ) and the windows seem to disappear. Some folk can't handle it at all, and go nuts, some people look out the window and can't see, can't remember what seeing is, until they are pulled away, or the window covered. More Modern writers I like are David Weber, John Ringo, David Drake....... and too many more. David Weber postulates gravity control for propulsion and hyperdrive. We can describe gravity's effects, use it for such things as orbital boosting and tidal stabilization, but as of yet we have not been able to make it or manipulate it directly. We'll probably have FTL after we have anti-grav. | ||
| Sifo |
I was just reading about the Chinese saying they are making great strides in the area of cloaking. Here's a picture of their latest jet while cloaked.  | ||
| Blake |
Tom, No mode of transportation that I can think of moves with respect to its "local frame of reference". I think the reporter got confused. Think of traveling in a car with the body of the car being the local frame of reference. Now just imagine the body of the car is a warp field and the space-time the air outside flowing around it. | ||
| 46champ |
You guys read some deep Si-Fi I feel bad that I just read all 11 books of the Kris Longknife series by Mike Shepherd since the middle of October you know frivolous stuff. Of course he uses the ultimate cop out for faster than light drive worm hole junctions left by the ancient ones from a million years ago. | ||
| Sifo |
Blake, It's been my understanding, not only from this article, that the "bubble" is an area of space around the vehicle that is actually moving through space. Kind of like sitting on a road with the car in park, but having a small section of road that just takes you to your destination. It still begs the question, what happens when you turn the headlights on. |
