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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 10:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How about this one?

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledet ails.xhtml?zip=44286&endYear=2014&vehicleStyleCode s=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CSEDAN%2CWAGON&showcaseOwnerId=76 224&startYear=1981&listingType=used&listingTypes=u sed&sellerTypes=p&sellerType=p&searchRadius=100&ma xPrice=2000&bodyStyleCodes=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CSEDAN%2 CWAGON&listingId=349777153&listingIndex=21&Log=0
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice little Subaru

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledet ails.xhtml?zip=44286&endYear=2014&vehicleStyleCode s=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CSEDAN%2CWAGON&showcaseOwnerId=76 224&startYear=1981&listingType=used&listingTypes=u sed&sellerTypes=p&sellerType=p&searchRadius=100&ma xPrice=2000&bodyStyleCodes=COUPE%2CHATCH%2CSEDAN%2 CWAGON&listingId=345827712&listingIndex=23&Log=0
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Luftkoph
Posted on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl that Honda already has serious rust and is just one Michigan winter away from having the fenders come off,same with the other one you can see the big spot of rust just in front of the right rear tire,and no doubt with that fuzzy far away picture they took, the other side is worse.

I'm not trying to sound jaded,but I don't like to spend money on cars,and it can be a long process around here to find a decent one,the last misrepresented car I went to look at was at a Honda dealer in bay city,2000 nissan sentry, with 34k looked good on the pictures, salesman said it was in real good shape so I drove 250 miles one way down there,rust thru the one rocker panel,and rust bubbles under the paint on the fenders.Nice real nice.
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, saw that. Probably why they're so cheap. Cheap was one of the criteria.

My understanding is that he wants a car to commute in that he won't have to worry about getting stolen in the cesspool city where he works. Rust is a given on old cheap cars in the mid west.
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gbackus,

Rockauto.com has great prices, quick shipping and you don't have to deal with the "special" button pusher behind the parts counter.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Rust is a given on old cheap cars in the mid west."

Another reason I like the Saturn S series. plastic door and quarter panels don't rust. (or dent) I think some of the body panel materials vary by year, but the only metal on the body of my 2000 is the trunk, roof, and hood.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 18, 2013 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Has anyone yet suggested a brand new BICYCLE??
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Gbackus
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 07:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how are the saturn sl2s on gas mileage? found a used one in great shape, $900, manual transmission. I know the sohc coupes seem to be the king of gas mileage. but how are the dohc sedans?
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86129squids
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just remembered that my best bud once had a IIRC, Chevy Geo Metro, which ran a 3 cylinder motor, and got GREAT mileage... he's long regretted selling it, especially now since his job moved and he spends 2 hours commuting every day.

I remember it to be a decent car, no real power, but fine for its intended job. Plus, someone in my neighborhood has one that's a convertible (yes, factory), been wanting to track her down and make an offer... might get with Vern one day if I had that thing and shove a Wankel motor in it, along with some good suspension bits.

Ahhh, gotta cherish your dreams!

Also, weirdly enough, I'd worked for a woman years ago who had of all things a Yugo- dang thing burned oil like you'd expect, build Q was CHEEEP, but it just kept going and going. They built factory 'verts of those too, REALLY want one of those. When she got rid of it, I made sure to strip the horn out, still have it- that thing is LOUD!

Carry on, post up some good beater pics or links!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How long to the frames last on those saturns?
Or floor pan or whatever structural thing lives under there.

One shocker I found out was the delorean with its fancy stainless body actually has a normal steel frame and they do rot out.

They sell stainless frames for those unwilling to let their deloreans go!

I always fantasized of making a stainless 1977 Dodge van. (At least when I was wearing out drills and poprivets adding patches to mine)
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No_rice
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dual cam saturns still get decent mileage. A few less then the single cams. For comparison my singles average 40ish and my duals average 35ish

As for the floor pans, all of mine have been solid except for one 94 that I patched the passenger rear floorboard.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had a SOHC and a DOHC. Not that much difference between the two actually, either in performance or economy. DOHC has more top end if you want it, but if you don't use it they feel the same and get the same MPG.

With a really worn 165k motor and probably more than one bad coolant temp sensor (there are two, they fail) I was getting low twenties in city driving, high twenties highway. I generally wrung the things neck, I could have done better.
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, July 19, 2013 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah, but most cars will run rings around saturns.

Ba dum bum. : )
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, July 20, 2013 - 06:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alternatively if you fancy a classic.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-VW-Bug-Super-B ettle-Good-daily-driver-/161067092454?pt=US_Cars_T rucks&hash=item258058c9e6#ht_1017wt_754

Here's another interesting deal.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2004-Mazda-3-S-Hatc hback-4-Door-2-3L-/281138357301?pt=US_Cars_Trucks& hash=item417526e435#ht_500wt_1182
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Gbackus
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looking at these 2, which would be the better buy?

http://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/cto/3926970384.h tml

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/3885655200.h tml
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Nukeblue
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

red one looks good. burning alot of oil is bad, hard on the cat. one owner car sounds good too
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My SC2 burned oil from about 80k miles still I sold it still running well at 170k miles. I bet the white one burns it too, and the seller just wasn't as complete in their disclosure. We sold the SL1 at 50k running perfectly (should have sold the SC2 instead and kept the SL1).

The sedan will be a lot more comfortable to get in and out of, and more practical all around, and perform just as well. I'd go with the white one.
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Gbackus
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any concern on the mileage? Think I can get another 100k out of it?>
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Buellish
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had an SL2 4 door with a 5-speed manual that got 38 mpg.I would still have it but it had a shifting problem that I was unable to diagnose.
I currently have an '02 Saturn L200 4 door,4-cyl auto,that gets 29 mpg.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

100k more? Probably not, but maybe. An SL1 might give you a better chance (less to go wrong and a less stressed engine and likely less aggressive drivers).

I've spent my life trying to hit the $1000 for 10,000 mile car metric. That's my budget, and I try and get as much car as possible (acquisition costs with normal maintenance).

It's a hard target to hit at the end of the day, but it can be done. You are going for 10 times that, that is a *very* ambitious goal.
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Gbackus
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll be picking the red one up on monday for $750. it's going to need a new exhaust(looks like both the flex joint and muffler went.). Ill be doing new fluids and and spark plugs and such, and it should be ready to go.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They get REALLY loud when that flex pipe goes. DAMHIK. : )
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Gbackus
Posted on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

yeah, its loud, smooths out a bit at speed, but at idle it sounds like poop
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