| Author | Message | ||
     Blake |
No one in NY has filed a lawsuit challenging the recent anti-self-defense anti-gun law? | ||
| Rick_a |
My current FB status:
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| Ninefortheroad |
The major problem with New York and Cal. is that.... some majority of their voting population must agree with what has and is going on in their state. I fear that more of the states lawmakers sent to DC is (has been) heading that way. | ||
| Bandm |
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| Kenm123t |
The press should be background checked and have to show need to even touch a computer typewriter or any form of comunication device. Support for the left shows why they are dangerous to freedom and can not be trusted with those killing machines! | ||
| Sifo |
Says it all...  | ||
| Blake |
Related to the gun control activists and especially folks like that fascist city councilman discussed above, and his cohorts like Diane Feinsein, NYC mayor Michael Bloomberg, and the police chief in the video above who asserts that firearms cannot ever be considered defensive weapons, something just occurred to me: People who feel they may deserve to be shot probably don't want others to have firearms. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
"People who feel they may deserve to be shot probably don't want others to have firearms." Exactly Blake, and why most criminals will avoid any place where they think an individual has a firearm at their disposal. AND that goes for political criminals! Armed and dangerous........You bet! To serve and protect (the Constitution).........You bet! | ||
| Aesquire |
It's not "feel they deserve to be shot", it's "expect the peasants to be revolting." ( yeah, they stink on ice ) This is not a new trend. Is there a single case of forced registration of weapons that did NOT result in confiscation? Is there a single case of confiscation of weapons that did NOT end up with tyrannical rule? That did NOT end up with the mass murder of the subjects of the Rulers? Those who gain power from preaching envy and hate are evil. It's sorta the definition. | ||
| Sifo |
Is there a single case of forced registration of weapons that did NOT result in confiscation? Even putting that aside for the moment, is there a single case of weapons registration that actually reduced violent crime? How is it supposed to reduce crime? (It's kind of rhetorical, OK?) It's as clear to me as anything that liberals feel the need to restrict weapons to prevent them from being used in crime. This is in direct conflict with the second amendment however. Clearly, they have no problem at all with cutting out any portion of the Constitution that they feel is in conflict with their agenda. This is the whole point of the Constitution though, to restrict what politicians can do. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/thandiwe-ad mits-to-shooting-my-mind-was-blank/nWBB2/ http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339683/little -learning-dangerous-thing-mark-steyn So, a leftist racist school experience led this lad to murder. Going to a "peace party" and freaking out because "2 white people" were there is his reasoning for murdering white people. “I was trying to prove a point that Europeans had colonized the world, and as a result of that, we see a lot of evil today,” he said. “In terms of slavery, it was something that needed to be answered for. I was trying to spread the message of making white people mend.” Thank you, Liberation Theology. ( btw, the President's faith. Also, if you don't know, a constructed neo-marxist religion. See: KGB, World council of Churches, or the KGB itself. http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?A RTID=35388 http://frontpagemag.com/2010/mark-d-tooley/world-c ouncil-of-churches-the-kgb-connection/ ) But I digress. http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/justice/dc-family-re search-council-shooting/?hpt=po_c2 The Southern Poverty Law Center is the source for his choice of "hate groups" to murder folk at. Is there any chance the SPLC is....... leftist? ( Duh! ) I'm not saying there have been no mass murders by "right wing" types. Oklahoma City comes to mind. But if some yahoo is plowing through a crowd in his SUV, or shooting up an office, etc. the odds are pretty darn good that either Islam, or neo-marxist beliefs are the cause. I note zero effort on the Left to disavow the actions of a would be mass murderer who uses the SPLC as a reference for WHO to kill, but I recall the Right was quick and vocal to disavow Tim McVeigh. | ||
| Sifo |
People who feel they may deserve to be shot probably don't want others to have firearms.  | ||
| Hootowl |
Of course CNN doesn't call them assault weapons. Those are probably actual assault rifles. Cops use military weapons. | ||
| Macbuell |
Does anyone else wonder why those rifles have suppressors on them? | ||
| Chauly |
So they don't scare da wabbits; be vewwy,vewwy quiet... | ||
| Sifo |
Does anyone else wonder why those rifles have suppressors on them? I noticed that too. I have no idea what the justification for that is. It clearly makes the rifle more lethal. | ||
| Hootowl |
Makes 'em a bit quieter. Why else would you use one? Which begs the question...Why isn't firing a gun without a suppressor considered just as rude as driving around without a muffler on your car? | ||
| Reepicheep |
I was watching a good war movie last week and had a realization about flash hiders that I never thought of before... They also protect the barrel crown. Even a little nick at the point where the bullet exits can really mess with accuracy. If I had a "working gun" I was going to carry around a lot, I'd want one with something to protect that crown. It came to me when I saw a scene where a soldier in Iraq put his gun barrel down right into the sand. My first thought was "thats stupid", but then I though about the flash suppressor on it, and the fact that he was probably in a hot condition and being bounced around a lot, and then decided it maybe it was brilliant. I suppose the hider might get fouled, which might mess up the first shot, but it won't hurt anything and sure would not be fouled for the second... | ||
| Sifo |
A polite society should expect you to use a suppressor. It's really annoying being woken up by 2 AM drive by shootings. | ||
| Sifo |
They also protect the barrel crown. You bet they do. They also make versions with small spikes that allow you to securely push it up against something like a door right at the lock so you can easily angle it toward the bolt. Just one example of why you might want non-slip spikes. It's a real working piece of the weapon. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/340268/and- your-little-dog-too-deroy-murdock Be very careful. Fearing that criminals were invading his home on May 5, 2011, Iraq veteran Jose Guerena, 26, hid his wife and son, age 4, in a closet. He grabbed his rifle and went to investigate. An Arizona SWAT posse seeking marijuana kicked down Guerena’s front door, saw his rifle, and lethally pumped 71 bullets into him. Guerena did not fire a shot. Indeed, his rifle’s safety mechanism remained engaged. The dead father and husband had no criminal record, and his home was devoid of contraband. Very careful. When masked, armed men break down your door, what are you supposed to do? If police, sue later, from jail on a trumped up charge? If criminals, watch as your wife and daughter are raped? It's not a good direction for our nation to be going, IMHO. | ||
| Fdl3 |
^ That is a frightening scenario. Note to self, stay behind cover with my home-defense weapon while evaluating threat at point of entry. | ||
| J2blue |
Another letter I wrote to our state reps here in Colorado: Letter re: HB 1224 which intends to limit ammunition magazine capacity Dear Sirs/Madame, It is with great consternation that I receive news of House Bill 1224 which intends to limit the ammunition carrying capacity of firearms magazines. Normally it is an annoyance that we must listen to the discussion of an idea that is proven over and over to not be well thought out, does not make any common sense, and has been scientifically verified to not accomplish what its stated intention is. Now we are finding our state representatives rushing to enact a bad idea into law so the light of reason cannot be shown on it before it is passed. Forgive me for not being able to direct this response to you more personally based on your support or opposition to this bill. I will set forth in this letter some key reasons why this bill must cease before it can be called for a full vote. Any bill has a merit for its existence and HB 1224 states its own as, “SECTION 3. Safety clause. The general assembly hereby finds, determines, and declares that this act is necessary for the immediate preservation of the public peace, health, and safety.” By that metric alone can the proposition be judged, and should it be enacted into law, be declared invalid. Proof must be shown by this bills sponsor that it will indeed accomplish what its stated goal is. It is obvious that the sponsors and supporters of this bill believe that firearms which possess 10 or more rounds, a rather arbitrary number, are implicated in an above normal breaking of the public peace. I have not found any evidence of that in statistics kept by the FBI, which for a number of reasons can be the only acceptable source of such data. Further, in that same data it can be found that weapons with a magazine capacity of 10 or more cartridges are a) used very rarely in violent crime and homicides, and b) have no correlation on increasing or decreasing rates of gun violence. But the burden of proof is not on me and my assertions; however it is the burden of the bill’s sponsor to prove before each and every committee the opposite of my assertions. Let me declare further that the sponsors of HB 1224 are indeed attempting to violate the Constitution of the United States of America in its Second Amendment declaration that all citizens have the right to bear arms and that right shall not be infringed. Any law which attempts to impair the operation of a firearm is an infringement because it interferes with the lawful use of that firearm. There is no need to respond to the reckless and illogical question of what legitimate use there may be for a magazine of 10 rounds or more. Any use of such a device that is not to commit murder or otherwise cause illegal harm is perfectly valid. That infringement of our constitutional right is the true or ultimate goal of such a bill. Further consideration must also be made for the harmful consequences of HB 1224. Any manufacturer of firearm magazines whose operations reside in Colorado will be adversely affected. And in a chain of damaging economic affects so will the commercial resellers and suppliers of such manufacturers. In the case of Magpul Industries of Boulder, Colorado, it is estimated that as many as 900 jobs will be forced out of our state. That is 900 jobs lost for a bill that cannot possibly accomplish its stated benefit for public safety. How many more jobs that might be added to our economy in the absence of this bill will be forever forsaken because manufacturers must locate in other states? Colorado has a proud tradition of cooperation with firearms and defense contractors and this bill can do nothing but sour that relationship and create a hostile environment for future economic growth. There is, as you know, a great collective voice within the law enforcement community that is opposed to the bill for the same reasons I give above. Their opposition exists in spite of the sponsors attempt to buy their support by granting them exemptions. When our law enforcement officials stand with a great number of our citizens in opposition to this bill you must consider the possibility that its passage will overstep the bounds of what is truly good and decent in our society. Even if an opinion poll suggests that a slight majority may favor it, remember we are society that does not impose on a minority the visceral wishes of a less informed public; a public that depends on your more thorough knowledge and judgment to enact and maintain only just laws. I implore each of you to not give into pressure generated within fear and hysteria to enact bad laws. It is your obligation as an elected official to look beyond the narrow interest of the ill-advised among your colleagues. Your own personal legacy will be reflected in either your support or opposition of this bill. Should the bill pass it will be challenged in court and ultimately be defeated. Do the right thing, stop this bill now and avoid the unnecessary and costly rancor and discord it will create. | ||
| Boltrider |
Aesquire, your link brings to mind the documentary Farmaggedon. It covered that raw milk story in all its ridiculousness, as well as other dubious uses of SWAT teams such as government confiscation of lambs from a family in Delaware. All of it was done under the watch of armed federal agents. Talk about killing a fly with a sledge hammer...... | ||
| Macbuell |
Note to self, stay behind cover with my home-defense weapon while evaluating threat at point of entry. This sounds smart under any scenario | ||
| Sifo |
65.4 Million Gun Purchases Since Obama Took Office, 91% More Than Bush's First-Term Total No wonder there's an ammo shortage! My local range this morning had a sign on the door that they had 30 round mags for AR-15s. They wanted $30 for a Pmag though. I have some on backorder with Midway USA at half that price. Hopefully I'll see them someday. | ||
| Macbuell |
Aesquire, that link enraged me. Sometimes I sit and wonder what happened to our country for it hardly resembles the one its founders designed. | ||
| Macbuell |
My local gun range is only selling ammo for Range time or new gun purchases. You can't buy any ammo to take out the door with you unless you are buying a new gun. It really is crazy. | ||
| Sifo |
My local range has been frustrated because they can't rent out their rental guns due to a lack of ammo. I can kind of understand not wanting to see it go out the front door. | ||
| Sifo |
Here's some great maps showing the inverse correlation between gun ownership and homicide rates. Interesting stuff. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/02/12 /U-N-Maps-Show-U-S-High-In-Gun-Ownership-Low-In-Ho micides   |
