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Strokizator
| Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 11:57 pm: |
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Natural viagra? Do tell. I tried a real one once but it got caught in my throat. I had a stiff neck all day. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 01:08 am: |
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Ruby Ridge Waco Tx, Branch Davidians Reardan Idaho/Preist Lake - National Socialist First Nation Not only will they - they have. Ah you say - those were FBI / DoJ..... um not quite - go review your history And you should just love the new armed 'health' care cadre that they just launched with the USPHS - 2600 advisors for 'public health, civil defense, and pandemic response' and the DSHS youth Corps that just graduated a class as well - already patrolling Arizona. Enjoy Komrade - this aint the country you grew up in. |
Ft_bstrd
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 07:30 am: |
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The Founders were also very dubious on the concept of a professional standing army. I do believe that some military will comply with pacification orders. I also believe, like the Civil War, many will not and will side with the "rebels". The greatest threat to military ground forces is an armed citizenry. It is why EVERY Progressive plan contains curtailment of gun ownership. The trick will be to create a need so severe that citizens will voluntarily relinquish their arms. If you've been documented to have owned a firearm, you will be denied the ability to purchase food until those firearms are turned into the authorities. Hungry and desperate people will do unbelievable things to survive including placing themselves in shackles. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 09:02 am: |
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You can't compare today's military to the military of the 60's and 70's. Everyone that is in our armed forces today have raised there hand and said they would carry the burden of service of their own free will. The armed forces in the 60's and 70's was full of people forced into service, they burned their uniforms when they were released from active duty and have tried to never look back. I'm not saying all of them but a good many so if you are of that era, don't get you panties in a big twist. The men and women that serve today have all volunteered to enlist or re-enlist after the events of 9-11. They knew full well what they had signed up for. Its those people, that are serving today, that I just can't see turning on their on people. Sure, you will have some that will follow unlawful orders but for the most part, I think most of them would refuse. The only way our government will be able to take our liberty's away from us will be a little at a time... bit by bit.. They are pretty good at it. Just look at your taxes... the Patriot Act... It'll never happen with a broad sword but a million little paper cuts.. never let a tragedy go to waste. ...and back to the original bloggers BS post about "us" not being able to fiend off tanks and helicopters... tell that to the Afghan people. They have been doing it forever |
Sifo
| Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:24 am: |
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Hungry and desperate people will do unbelievable things to survive including placing themselves in shackles. They can shackle me if they like. Unless I'm among the first to have my house raided or caught transporting my guns to a safe place, my guns will get to a safe hiding place, and those more capable than me to use them effectively will know where they are. Officially, all my guns were lost in a boating accident going on a hunting trip on Manitou Island in Lake Michigan. I would suggest we all have plans in mind when the first news of gun raids begins. Listening to Dick Durban last night on the radio, he repeated many time, "we don't want your guns away", while explaining the whole time why we can't be allowed to have guns that are capable of killing people. I'm pretty sure I know which part of that he really believes. |
Malott442
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 06:20 am: |
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Not trying to be a smart a$$ or a busy body, but if you really have guns or intent to protect your liberties, why are you posting information about it on the internet? I'll delete this post if and when you delete yours for your own protection. |
Sifo
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 09:25 am: |
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There's more positive documentation of my guns already in the hands of the government (at least most of them) than my posts here. |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 01:27 pm: |
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Give us 'your' guns and we will bribe you with money http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/19 /San-Francisco-And-Oakland-Crowds-Give-Up-Guns-In- Buyback-Scheme |
Sifo
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 02:30 pm: |
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I always wonder what would happen if you were to show up in the parking lot of the gun buy back and offer $100 more than the buy back program. You could get some real bargains that way, but would it be illegal in any way? |
Mtnmason
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 03:12 pm: |
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^ not in Virginia (assuming it is not an illegal firearm and the S/N is not defaced) Private sale is unrestricted. (Message edited by Mtnmason on December 22, 2012) |
Sifo
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 03:15 pm: |
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Exactly my thought. |
46champ
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 08:08 pm: |
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Heard of a raw news cast that never made it to prime time. Reporter intervieued a woman who just turned in a 25 cal jennings for the $100 turn in payment. Anyway he asked her what she was going to do with the money. She said I am going to buy 2 more and turn them in after I do this several more times I'm going to go buy a Glock. |
Hootowl
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 09:45 pm: |
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Most guns given up in buy back programs are not functional. I traded in a $70 .22 rifle, got my hundred bucks, and went and bought a new one, plus a brick of ammo. They don't do buy back programs in that county any longer. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 - 11:33 pm: |
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...what would happen if you were to show up in the parking lot of the gun buy back... Thee police get really really angry and give you a real raft load of sheeit. DAMHIK. |
Just_ziptab
| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 12:42 am: |
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All the information you fill out on that yellow form,when you buy a gun, stays with the dealer until he goes out of business. It is only then turned in to the BATF.If said gun is used in a crime or stolen and then found,then it is traced back to the last owner that filled out the form....manufacturer to distributor to dealer to first owner and you the owner better know where it is or who you sold it to.Millions upon millions of guns have been legally sold.........and nothing is known about the whereabouts of those guns until they are traced for what ever reason.There is not enuf manpower to find all those guns if "all civilian owned guns are banned"..but if you get caught with one at that point.....bye bye! |
Cityxslicker
| Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 01:49 am: |
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locally wally world - out of .223 and .308 |
Baf
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 09:35 pm: |
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quote:As an aside, with no relation to this thread... ever see little colored, square signs by the side of the road? Not near anything, not at corners, just there? A bit less than a foot square? No markings at all.
I see them all over up here in NY. On interstates, if you pay attention, you can tell the pattern for turn offs, u-turns, guard rails, etc. I always figured they outlined the road, you know, so the snow plows can do their job. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 09:52 pm: |
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In the interstates, the mile markers ( in 1/10 increments ) let you know where the road is fine. The wee square unmarked ( but color coded ) signs tend to be several feet further from the road edge. Look for them on back roads. Note that a missing corner shortly means no more on the road you are on. ( but they start up on the indicated road at the next intersection. ) 2 close together always at a large, wire free field. I don't have a scanner, but when I worked at an inconvenience store, the owner had one on all the time. Police use some cryptic language to keep their location and actions quiet. ( for good reason. It is illegal to use a scanner for criminal purposes. What's one more charge if it keeps you from getting busted at all? ) The color marker system is an aid to that. As an aside on the aside. I've been told that after midnight, half the drivers are legally drunk. I dunno about that, but the police seem to think it about right. I do know from listening to the scanner on graveyard shift, that the vast majority of drivers pulled over after 3am ( local last call 2am ) and legally drunk don't have a license anymore anyway. |
Slaughter
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 09:56 pm: |
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Sure Patrick, that's what "THEY" want you to believe. Those are the secret UN invasion signs. |
Baf
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 09:59 pm: |
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In my area, they're far more common than 1/10 mile; they seem like they're every 50-100 feet or so (more often if the road widens for a u-turn or something). And, on both sides of the road as well (yellow on left, white on right). And they're usually doubled up if they're marking a guardrail, or single if just marking the edge of the shoulder. And a few other patterns. They're rectangular and unmarked, and color coded to match the line on that side of the roadway. As far as back roads, never noticed them. I'll have to take a closer look on some backroads - I live in a pretty rural area (not too backwoods, but fairly rural), so plenty of fields and such. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 11:09 pm: |
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Baf are the signs you are talking about square rectangular, white reflective, with the sides up and down? little? Those probably are for snowplows and to show idiot NY drivers the edge of space. ( The Deity of your choice knows they need all the help they can get ) Or square, in various monotone colors, with the points up and down? ( like a tiny yield sign ) those are for UN Invasion troops fire departments and emergency responders.... yeah, that's the ticket. (Message edited by aesquire on January 02, 2013) |
Aesquire
| Posted on Wednesday, January 02, 2013 - 11:15 pm: |
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Then there's these really annoying things. I'm always getting "ah! glowing eyes!" reactions as I drive by, and I know the damn things are there. http://townofmendon.org/images/Deer_Warning_Reflec tors.pdf |
Cataract2
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 09:27 am: |
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Hm, those things are kinda cool and interesting. Wonder how well they work. I have no issue with them if they keep more deer from becoming hood ornaments and causing crashes. Biggest fear to me is deer at night while on the bike. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 06:42 pm: |
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Don't know the statistics yet. The test area is next to a large park with 10's of thousands of acres across the street that are restricted hunting access. Private land, farms, exurban housing. An Ginormous Deer Herd. No, more than that. A buddy lives on that road, and the screech of tires is a daily thing. Dead deer and car parts. Finding out If the reflectors work will take some time. My issue, ( small, and can be ignored If they work ) is that you get the exact kind of glint off the deer reflectors that you get off deer eyes, and not down the road, but the exact distance away that if it IS a deer in motion you are going to hit it. First sight is always a quick adrenaline squirt. Then a series of tiny ones as my conditioned reflexes get repeatedly triggered. I suppose I'll get used to it. Funny thing is many morons get angry & tailgate when you drive down the heavily marked road posted at 45 mph past the Park, at the speed limit. |
Baf
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 09:03 pm: |
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Yeah the snowplow ones. Never noticed the other ones. I'll have to look. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 10:54 pm: |
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Always good to see new tech being tried out. Least that means someone is working on the problem and trying to solve it. Hope those pan out. I would love to have something that could help prevent another meeting with a forest rat. I will say, my heart has never been so deep in my throat than the day I came around a corner and there was a mule deer in the road. Yikes. |
Aesquire
| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 12:01 am: |
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Right in the area where they are testing the reflectors I have multiple times had to stop and yell to get dozens of deer off the road. ( not wanting to honk & disturb folk ) I may actually put the Wileyco muffler back on, since the stocker does not bug the beasts at all. It's like living in a game park. That's why I encourage Deer hunting. Teach the kids. Control the herd. We kilt all the wolves. It's now our job. Mule deer? Big enough to ruin your ride. The only noise maker I've actually had luck with on deer is studded snow tires. They run at quite a distance away. Alas, not a solution for Cyclone or Summer. |
Whisperstealth
| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 05:24 am: |
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YES. PERIOD, END OF QUESTION. |
Cataract2
| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 07:24 am: |
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Aes, all for hunting as well. Yum... |
Malott442
| Posted on Friday, January 04, 2013 - 08:52 am: |
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The United States' Civil War could teach us a lot of things about political warfare, and possibly what we should or should not be weary of. Also, looking from then to now, with the changing of many factors (our armed force strength now vs. then being a strong one), what is the real chance that an order could be given under certain context or guise to disarm America? I will not make an opinionated statement without factoids to back my position, and I frankly don't have time right now. "The difference between paranoia and and justified concern is public sympathy." -Me “If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don't have to worry about answers.” - Thomas Pynchon, Gravity's Rainbow “[The militia experts] accuse antigoverment agitants of paranoia, yet they spin around and claim that militias speak in coded phrases, have underground bunkers, and are secretly conspiring to take over the world and enslave minorities. They say it`s lunacy that men at the pentagon can conspire, yet they`re certain that farmers out on the plain are plotting as we speak. They depict the United Nations as weak and ineffectual, yet they portray raggedy-ass backwoodsmen as the world`s biggest organized military threat. ” -Jim Goad, The Redneck Manifesto: How Hillbillies, Hicks, and White Trash Became America's Scapegoats “Germans grew reluctant to stay in communal ski lodges, fearing they might talk in their sleep. They postponed surgeries because of the lip-loosening effects of anesthetic. Dreams reflected the ambient anxiety. One German dreamed that an SA man came to his home and opened the door to his oven, which then repeated every negative remark the household had made against the government.” -Erik Larson, In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler's Berlin I hate to copy and paste quotes, but they are ideas that I have internalized before or after reading them, and subsequently have identified them as being sympathetic thoughts to my own. The "paranoid" have a very real chance of being wrong in their suspicions and predictions, but at least they are weary, and at least some of them are audacious enough to reject spoon fed facts and seek the truth by their own journey. Happy Friday! |
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