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     Boogiman1981 |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-launc hes-gun-violence-task-force/2012/12/19/90ff2d52-49 f9-11e2-b6f0-e851e741d196_story.html | ||
| Blackm2 |
"Obama calls on Congress to ban assault weapons, high-capacity magazines" I have yet to hear any detail come out of this administration regarding that. The WP as most media outlets are BS, F'ing, liars. In fact I've heard them say more about mental health than I have about gun control. Now I'm sure Biden will come out with something but this headline is absolute BS. | ||
| Hootowl |
What exactly are you claiming is inaccurate about the story? I'd really like to know. I've read this same thing in multiple places, with direct quotes from the politician pushing the bill. (HINT...she's from California, and was the author of the 'assault' weapons ban in the 90s.) | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2012/1 2/19/obama-biden-newtown-school-shooting/1779145/ | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
http://swampland.time.com/2012/12/19/obama-takes-a -first-step-on-gun-control-after-sandy-hook/ | ||
| Blackm2 |
I'm not CLAIMING anything. The article says "Obama calls on Congress to ban assault weapons, high-capacity magazines" He, nor anyone in his direct cabinet has said anything of the sort....yet. Congressman and Senators that have been spouting off for years, you would expect them to say something ie: Feinstein, Boxer, Schumer, etc... It is a BS article. (Message edited by Blackm2 on December 19, 2012) | ||
| Fb1 |
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| Cowboy |
The damn ;iberals need to under stand that when enough of our freedon is gone SHARIA LAW is next. | ||
| Cowboy |
Until the 2nd amendment is struck down by a 2/3 vote they can kiss my ASS | ||
| Fb1 |
Cowboy, I share your sentiments exactly. I'm concerned (huge understatement), however, because our President has shown nothing but scorn and disdain for our Constitution and the safeguards to our liberty contained therein. He has proven many times in the past four years that he can dictate "law" at will, and Congress seems powerless to stop him. The deck is stacked in his favor, amigo, and I'm thinkin' "gun control" is perhaps just an executive order away... | ||
| Cowboy |
I will not give them up at 76 yr oldI will die first and that is a pronis. | ||
| Ulyranger |
Executive order or through regulation is likely the first step. Pesky legislation takes too long and then there are those tiresome "compromises". He can open up the evil NFA list via the ATF w/o involving Congress maybe. Or utilize the power of Holder's AG office to threaten the manufacturers, wholesalers directly, some suspect that may already be happening. Online sources have dried up rather quickly, maybe more quickly than point of sales would account for......who knows for sure. Another regulatory avenue could be eliminating online, web based sales and require FTF with an FFL. Throw firearms into the Product Safety abyss, for the children after all? Then of course there is the civil lawsuit avenue, if it costs more for the manufacturers to defend a product than can be made from selling it, well? There's probably a hundred ways to encumber the firearms industry other than mere legislation and this is THE regulatory administration. Just a nudge here, nudge there.... | ||
| Ulyranger |
The O has indeed claimed to want "these weapons of war" out of american civilian hands. Heard it straight from the Horse's mouth. Don't know how any thinking person could not see this desire plainly. He has been waiting for this opportunity to present itself, even felt the need to present his case at a memorial for the victims in CT........shameless..... | ||
| Aesquire |
UN treaty. Ban civilian ownership of weapons. Details to be determined. Meanwhile, Barry & co. are going to lie, repeatedly. ( what else is new? ) Just as an aside, Assault rifles had no part in any of the school shootings, mall shootups, movie shootups, etc. in the last 50 years. None. zip. Read Handgun Control Inc.'s manifesto. It's spelled out. ( now the Brady Center to exploit a crippled guy for massive profit ) Give an object a scary name and get it banned. Move on to next object. | ||
| Blake |
Truth matters. http://youtu.be/6R5VxAebCng | ||
| Geedee |
Look outside America. http://poy.time.com/2012/12/19/the-choice/ "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination practiced in past centuries". David Rockefeller (in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991.) http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/17/press-tv-s chool-killings-first-shock-then-blame-and-conspira cy/ http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/12/19/super-vira l-israeli-death-squads-involved-in-sandy-hook-bloo dbath-intelligence-analyst/ (Message edited by Geedee on December 19, 2012) | ||
| Blake |
GD, You seem a bit eager to believe. Skepticism ought to be objective. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I'm in strong support of more gun control. What happen last Friday got to me. I never want to see that happen again. I enjoy hunting and have no desire to ever own an assault weapon. I prefer my shotgun (single shot) or a 30.06 bolt action for deer hunting. | ||
| Cowboy |
Give an inch they take a mile----simi auto this week YOUR deer rifle next week. Sure looks like a good way to loose this country Look the damn Indians lose it with a bow and arrow. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I call bull shit on that cowbow! We don't need every Tom, Dick, & Harry walking around in public carrying an assault weapon! If we didn't learn anything from what happened last Friday, then shame on us! Our education system has failed our country! | ||
| Ninefortheroad |
Sorry, even if the gov't did get another AWB or even tried a full blown door to door confiscation of all Semi-auto weapons and hcap mags here in America, it would not work to stop or even slow down another mass shooting. It would make them illegal, so, our latest shooter was illegal and broke how many laws before he even pulled the trigger? More laws would have stopped him? Yeah right. There are so many of this type of semi auto rifles, pistols and 10+ mags, a confiscation program would only get a very small portion of what is out their now. Let's be realistic. | ||
| Geedee |
"You seem a bit eager to believe." I don't know Blake. Do you think I am? Don't you get tired of the same old same old? The shite goes down and everyone argues the side show. I watch and read in wonder as former friends on this site sling abuse at each other in so many threads. Here is a link that pretty much sums up how I feel. http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/12/snap- out-of-it-2517772.html This is staged. Around the world. Do you guys ever hear of incidents outside of America? Norway, Tasmania, Dunblane in Scotland way back. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777958.html Can people in America even see the woods for the trees anymore? There is an agenda, and it is bigger than America. You are being taken down, and you are being used to do it to yourselves. http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauMemorial/TimeC over.html It is not coincidence. Step outside the box. | ||
| Malott442 |
2nd amendment is not for hunting. I am also for more gun control. No GUN control! Yes gun CONTROL! The gun show loophole, the lack of stringent background checks in certain states, yes. Ban a mini-14? An SKS? An AR-15? Good luck putting that one past the people. Civil unrest is a possibility if you were to ask my personal biased opinion. I for one won't stand for someone coming to my house asking to collect the only defense I have against threats, foreign and DOMESTIC. I swore an oath to my people. Not my president or legislation. | ||
| D_adams |
http://blog.beliefnet.com/on_the_front_lines_of_th e_culture_wars/2011/04/she-survived-hitler-and-wan ts-to-warn-america.html#ixzz2FTELIpdo
(Message edited by d_adams on December 20, 2012) | ||
| Fast1075 |
Thanks Dean! I heard the same story from an old couple that ran a community market when I was a kid. They they spoke with a strange accent which I later learned was from their germanic/jewish heritage. They both bore tattoed numbers. They both were very careful about what they told us children. But I remember Mr. Hornsby telling us "pray that you never hear the clatter of hobnail boots in the middle of the night". They were such wonderful people. | ||
| Aesquire |
We don't need every Tom, Dick, & Harry walking around in public carrying an assault weapon! You don't. You never will. Have not been able to since the 1920's. In America. This is a major lie you have bought into. It is an ongoing propaganda technique begun by the company Handgun Control and now named the Brady center to exploit a crippled guy or something like that. An "Assault rifle" has an actual definition. It is a rifle firing a "reduced power" cartridge. The standard being the classic 30-06 or 8mm mauser. Big, powerful, "battle rifle" cartridges. ( DEER HUNTING CARTRIDGES ) Most "assault rifles today for the 5.56x45 NATO round ( Varmint round ) or the 7.62x39 Soviet. In contrast the "full power" Soviet round is the 7.62x54R, a cartridge nearly twice as long holding much more gunpowder. Why? Full power rounds kick too hard to be fired full auto ( one pull of trigger fired multiple bullets until you let go.... a machine gun ) so in WW2 the Germans came up with the Storm rifle Or Assault Rifle. ( supposedly named by Hitler to sound really cool. The Nazi's had a thing for cool sounding stuff. Our tanks, for example were named after dead generals. The Pershing, the Sherman. German tanks had "cool" names like Panther & Tiger. Now the real truth. Assault rifles are also "selective fire" weapons. There is a switch that makes it shoot like a machine gun. Full auto. Full auto weapons were strictly controlled after the "roaring 20's" when "machine gun Kelly", Baby Faced Nelson, Dillinger and the St. Valentines Day Massacre were having gang wars and robberies with Thompson submachineguns. ( Machine guns that fire a pistol, not rifle cartridge ) So, Bill Clintons' "assault weapons ban" did NOT BAN ONE SINGLE "assault weapon. Not one. Already "banned". An "assault weapon", like a "tactical" anything is a marketing term to make something sound scary. Usually it's black. If it's camo it's for hunting? If it's black it's tactical. Simply. these a--holes lie to you. The "high capacity magazines" they want you to freak about are actually normal stuff a century plus old. There are no assault rifles for sale, unless you have a special, expensive, and hard to get Federal Permit with an extensive FBI background check INCLUDING a check to see if you have mental illness. I am unaware of ANYONE being killed by a LEGAL machinegun since WW2 in America. ( they are just too freaking expensive. ) There is NO SUCH THING as "an assault weapon". That is a made up label. To scare you and make you think that the varmint hunting rifle your neighbor has for 'chuck isn't a hunting rifle. To divide and conquer us. It's a lie. Always has been. Explain to me how a technology over 100 years old is suddenly a threat when it has not been for a century? You've been conned. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
Aesquire dead nuts accurate | ||
| Ulyranger |
Actually, I've got no problem with Tom, Dick nor Harry open carrying whatever legal firearm their heart desires down my street. So long as they are legal to do so, are responsible citizens and have no ill intent. Hunting is a privilege, here we go again... Not a right. 2A has nothing to do with hunting. You are born with the right keep and bear arms for your protection, you must attain a certain age, prove to the state you are worthy and pay for a license to hunt. People really need to wake up and stop focusing on the talking points....... | ||
| Pikeben08 |
Aesquire, the sad/scary thing is that probably 50% of congress doesn't know the difference. I wouldn't mind a little more regulation as far as private gun sales go, in michigan you can sell a long arm to anybody with no background check or paper trail. But really it's only keeping the honest honest right? So therefore probably just a waste of time and money. | ||
| Jb2 |
Maybe we should take Obama's guns away? He's killed more children than all the mass murderers have combined since he took office. Think about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvOU-czQnl8&feature =player_embedded#! |
