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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, was no dry-firing a store policy? Would they allow it with snap caps?
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, you can dry-fire an M&P all day long and not hurt a thing. However, it's (I think) a pretty common policy amongst gun stores and gun shows not to allow dry-firing.

My M&P's are 9mm. The triggers are a teeny little bit "grittier" than I'd like. It's not a deal-breaker, and I either live with it (I hardly notice anymore), or go the Apex route (link below).

M&P's are VERY well-respected in the handgun community, and the fact that BIACS says he's got a waiting list for 40 M&P Shields really says something.

Very happy with mine; they just run and run and run. I'll add a Shield in 9mm when the prices come down.

Apex Tactical: http://www.apextactical.com/
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS to Just_Ziptab:

These will take down 50 pound steel rams at 220 yards in IHMSA long range competition...

Wow! : )
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB, I had a reason for choosing Hydra-Shok years ago for my .45 acp. I wish i could remember the source of the report. The main point I remember was that in police shootings at the time, 90 percent of those shot with 1 round of .45ACP HydraShok did not fire another round. It was a game stopper. In my own study, it would punch through lumber without expanding. Like shooting ball ammo until it found water. And yes, I trust the brand.
A LEO I shoot with has me hide snap caps in his magazines on the range. Great clearing the jam practice. I highly recommend it. I like putting it as the last round in the mag. Makes him scramble to clear it, know how many he has shot, and get to the next magazine.
I still prefer the knife for close in defense. But, those zombies are resilient.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake:

Smith & Wesson’s 9mm M&P Semi-Auto Pistol
http://www.gunblast.com/SW_MP9.htm

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson M&P45c
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/06/giao-nguy en/smith-wesson-mp-45acp-compact/

The Smith & Wesson M&P Shield
http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/smith-wes son-m-p-shield/

Welcome to the MP-Pistol Forum dedicated to Smith & Wesson M&P Pistol.
http://mp-pistol.com/index.php?/topic/30241-the-mp -files/

Gun Review: Smith & Wesson Military & Police Auto Pistol
http://www.gundigest.com/firearm-gun-reviews/gun-r eview-smith-wesson-military-police-auto-pistol
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 08:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

PS to Fb1:
The XP-100 will hit baseball size "shoot off" targets at 165 yards with iron sights! No artificial support..you and the gun only. What fun when you're younger than 40. My old eyes won't focus that anymore........
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All guns brought into the gun show were required to be tied back, meaning at least a zip-tie through the chamber to prevent operation. Seemed outrageous and hypocritical that the show was also posted prohibiting lawful concealed carry inside the show venue. But once inside, I could see some logic to the prohibition. Lots of folks with some likely to barter a loaded weapon leading to accidental discharge.

Thanks for the links FB.
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Loki
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hydra-Shocks as a hollow point were known for not clogging. That lil stem in em was the trick to that.

At this point I have switched from them to the "Critical Defense" load as my primary carry. Still have a mag of "Hydra" loaded as a spare
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 12:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I made a few "defense" loads for the 50 BMG. 750 grain A-Max with the lead core melted out,filled with #9 shot,capped with a spot of hot glue and moly coated. A gallon can of water at 100 yards totally vaporized.......never saw anything like it.........just rained down shards of tin.
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Doubled
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 12:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I made a few "defense" loads for the 50 BMG. 750 grain A-Max with the lead core melted out,filled with #9 shot,capped with a spot of hot glue and moly coated. A gallon can of water at 100 yards totally vaporized.......never saw anything like it.........just rained down shards of tin.

Must see a video.
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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 08:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

FB, I had a reason for choosing Hydra-Shok years ago for my .45 acp. I wish i could remember the source of the report. The main point I remember was that in police shootings at the time, 90 percent of those shot with 1 round of .45ACP HydraShok did not fire another round. It was a game stopper.

@Ourdee, thanks for the feedback. I've been very comfortable carrying Hydra-Shoks, and based on my research have had no worries about possible clogging. That said, the round is a 20-year-old design, and I consistently hear and read good things about Speer Gold Dots, including from folks who carry sidearms professionally.

.45 ACP? Game stopper? Yeah, I should think so. : )


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Federal Hydra-Shok .45 ACP 230 gr JHP Ammo Test




http://youtu.be/k0515AxzA5c



PS to Fb1:
The XP-100 will hit baseball size "shoot off" targets at 165 yards with iron sights!


@Just_Ziptab, yikes! Remember the scene in "Crocodile Dundee" where the street punk pulls a knife on Croc and his lady friend? I'm envisioning that scene but instead of a knife the punk pulls out an M&P Shield 9mm.

"Mick, he's got a gun!!"

"Gun? That ain't no gun. THIS is a gun!" as he pulls out his XP-100 and the punk pees himself and cries out for his mama. : )



Hydra-Shocks as a hollow point were known for not clogging. That lil stem in em was the trick to that.

At this point I have switched from them to the "Critical Defense" load as my primary carry. Still have a mag of "Hydra" loaded as a spare.


@Loki, yeah, I agree about the Hydra-Shoks. I'd still carry them as my PD round without any concerns of clogging, except I've made the switch to Speer GD's. A couple of weeks ago I was visiting with an off-duty cop at our local range. He has an M&P Shield 9mm as his BUG. I asked him what his carry ammo is. Speer Gold Dots. He went on to say that ALL his fellow officers run these rounds, their choice, not a department "policy." Pretty good endorsement, I'd say. Like you I also have some Hydra-Shoks loaded up in spare mags, but I'll typically run through some of them each time we're at the range, so they're going fast.


Must see a video.

+1 : )
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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ZIP TAB have lasik done it does wonders for your shooting
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2012 - 01:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must see video?

I have a few rounds left of the "defense .50's" and some cool lightweight 5 gallon aluminum casks. I'll take the camera! Not sure when I can get to it tho,..but will post it.

Left:.50 APIT...just poked a hole,in and out.
Center:30-06
Right:full of water.
I shot a plastic 55 gallon drum with a .50 A-Max. It all broke up in the water and burst the back side with a 2' split in it.
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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





The new LC9 and the Buckmark.
The ball is a great practice target.
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2012 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have these, and they are my "around town" carry. I love mouse guns.

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