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     Just_ziptab |
I am depressed...........(Slim Pickens) | ||
| Blk_uly |
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| Just_ziptab |
News says Democrat Barbara Boxer wins re-election in California; Brown wins gov race; pro-marijuana proposition rejected 1 minute ago via web | ||
| Reindog |
Tonight is a bittersweet victory. Nationwide, the People are clearly saying no to Obama and Congress. The 2012 campaign starts tonight as we can show Obama the way off the stage. Unfortunately, the voters of California are in denial and are steering us towards insolvency. One can bleat and bray all day about Tea Baggers and such, but the debt that this Wonderful Government has foisted upon us and future generations is unsustainable. I am truly ashamed of California as it now braces for even higher unemployment and taxes. Californians just don't get it. What we clearly don't need is a Brown Boxer. | ||
| Whisperstealth |
I looked at the percentages, damn close. Both at 47% Boxer may win, but not much. Saw a map showing how the counties voted. Except for the coastal and southern counties, she would be out. As I have said, CA is two different states. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/polit ics/election-results-2010/ | ||
| Hacksaw |
We the people of California are hosed!!! | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Of course, any reasonable person must recoil at the new elected officials in the Golden State: Jerry Brown Barbara Boxer However, the defeat of the marijuana proposition proves that only about half of the state are addled brained pot heads. The rest of the folks just did not have viable candidates to vote for, the same problem we had in New York. The Republicans need to start developing viable candidates TODAY! | ||
| Pwnzor |
To all Kalifornians: Real estate values in Georgia are excellent. If you are in I.T. or Transportation, there is plenty of work. That is all. | ||
| Strokizator |
Pwnzor, thanks for the offer but I think I'll eventually be heading to Utah. Nice people, beautiful state. | ||
| Reindog |
I have already lost several friends who have left California in disgust. Some have gone to Texas, some to North Carolina, one to Georgia. Liberalism has consequences.....bad ones. | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Excuse me gentlemen but I believe its "Senator Boxer". Please address her properly. | ||
| Jaimec |
Damn... this being a motorcycle board and all, I thought this was going to be a Beemer thread. Silly me... | ||
| Blake |
I would have much preferred passage of prop 19 and defeat of the looters Boxer and Brown. What the hell is wrong with California voters? Do they not comprehend fiscal reality? Not to mention Nevada re-electing Reid to the senate, but while repudiating his son and electing a Republican governor. Makes no sense to me. | ||
| Court |
California has every reason to be ashamed. Boxer and Brown (I lived there during his "Governor Moon-Beam" days)epitomize the problem, ditto Reid in Nevada. Those two states are in such dire condition and yet, I think, there are so many folks on the government teet that they've become like lemmings. Imagine for a moment . . if we were thinking of getting someone like a Bill Gates or a Steve Jobs to work their proven magic in creating jobs and growth. We couldn't afford them. We couldn't afford either Carly or Meg Whitman either. Whitman worked her butt off as an executive and EARNED her $1,000,000,000+ personal wealth. It'd be a gift to have a person that talented even offer to help. Then she spends $140,000,000 of her own money and the folks vote in Brown. Really scary stuff. I suppose they got what they deserved . . . we'll see. | ||
| Blake |
THIS was the most powerful woman in the world and the leader of congressional Democrats? She finally proved for all to see beyond any reasonable doubt how entirely disconnected from reality she truly is. Baghdad Bob has nothing on Pelosi. Good riddance! | ||
| Pwnzor |
Utah's a great place. Got quite a few good Mormon friends, they're great people to know. | ||
| Roadcouch98 |
We faired almost as badly in New York. Chuck Schumer won by a 2 to 1 margin. No one to run against Cuomo. Charlie Rangel, not in jail.  If not for a certain 4 year old here, my address would be SOUTH .  | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Whitman worked her butt off as an executive and EARNED her $1,000,000,000+ personal wealth. It'd be a gift to have a person that talented even offer to help. That sycophantic incestuous executive compensation committees would allow CEO pay to reach those levels is as bad as what politicians do with taxpayer money. Its the shareholders money, very very few individuals are worth that much to a company, especially someone that was not a founder or driving force of the company. | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Its the shareholders money Yea, just like we believe it's our government. | ||
| Blake |
That sycophantic incestuous executive compensation committees would allow CEO pay to reach those levels is as bad as what politicians do with taxpayer money. Its the shareholders money, very very few individuals are worth that much to a company, especially someone that was not a founder or driving force of the company. You imagine that the board do not hold significant shares of the company? You imagine that her wealth was from salary versus performance based incentives? You sound like a man bitter towards those who prove themselves capable and successful and who earn great rewards for their success. Miserableness. Who are you and what are your qualifications to judge what someone is worth in the way of compensation to a large business concern? What possible motive would any board have for providing more compensation that a CEO is worth? | ||
| Buellbozo |
I agree that the Republicans need to start coming up with viable, centrist candidates now. Why? Three words,guys...and ya heard 'em from this idiot first... Obama Clinton Twelve Sleep well folks. | ||
| Imonabuss |
Actually I think the proper title would be Bought Bitch Boxer... Kalifornia is a national tragedy. The foundation of illegal immigrants and the center of the media megaempire is a far cry from the great hard working innovative state it once was. | ||
| Sayitaintso |
Thank you Ferris, my point exactly. Blake, Of course they hold significant shares...stock options and common stock as well. No it was mostly from stock prior to ebay going public, but that has very little to do with her ability or contribution and more to do with the tech bubble. Dont get me wrong I'm not saying she's done anything wrong. Only that her compensation far outweighed her contribution. I'm not bitter at all. I have a problem with the way this country stands from both a political a corporate/business standpoint. This is a great country, I hate to see it crippled by the greed of the few. Executive compensation is out of control. Executive are too focused on the next quarter and not the overall well being of the shareholders/company they are supposed to be serving. (Just a quick not well thought out example) The axing a Buell is an example. The future of HD isn't "big iron" but ignoring that and focusing on the next quarterly report will help Wandel show a bump in stock and justify a bonus/sale of options (if applicable), enriching himself to the detriment of the owners (shareholders) of the company. Common sense is enough to know when executive compensation is out of wack. As for the motive???? Like I said corporate boards are incestuous, CEO's sit on each others boards, scratch my back I'll scratch yours. So greed works as a good motive. Edit: After more thought and a litle reading I take back what I said about Whitman's wealth accumulation specifically, but not executive compensation in general. (Message edited by sayitaintso on November 03, 2010) | ||
| Hootowl |
Blake, I was floored when I saw that this morning. She is truly delusional. Her constituents probably are as well though, so that explains her continual reelection. | ||
| Boltrider |
There are liberals, and then there are bay area liberals. That's why I'm not surprised that Fiorina and Whitman lost. If someone told me that Alameda, SF, and LA county saw 10 to 1 margins in favor of the liberal ticket, I wouldn't be surprised. And with the massive population densities of those areas, it just gets more overwhelming. That's why it would be great if they divided California into 2 states. There's plenty of room to draw up the boundary, but that's just me dreaming out loud. Jerry Brown Act III, here we come! (Message edited by boltrider on November 03, 2010) | ||
| Ourdee |
When is that fault supposed to drop Kaly into the ocean anyways? | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Well at least it's nice and sunny day here in California. I'll go for a nice warm ride today on one of our many beautiful roads. | ||
| Blake |
>>> I have a problem with the way this country stands from both a political a corporate/business standpoint. This is a great country, I hate to see it crippled by the greed of the few. Politically, I can agree, I think. You've lost me on the corporate part. Which corporations do you find to be crippling the nation by their greed and how are they doing so? Please explain. | ||
| Blake |
Jeff, You must be right. You should have heard Michele this morning when I informed her that Harry Reid had been re-elected. I'd post the quote, but she might end up in prison. LOL. | ||
| Sifo |
Executive are too focused on the next quarter and not the overall well being of the shareholders/company they are supposed to be serving. (Just a quick not well thought out example) The axing a Buell is an example. The future of HD isn't "big iron" but ignoring that and focusing on the next quarterly report will help Wandel show a bump in stock and justify a bonus/sale of options (if applicable), enriching himself to the detriment of the owners (shareholders) of the company. If it's that straight forward why don't more people step up to the plate and do it better? Not only do it better, but for less money too? The reality is that very few people have the slightest clue how to attain that level of achievement, much less what to do once you get there. Very easy to bitch from the sidelines. Get your ass in the game and tell me about it. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see CEO compensation come down a great deal. It's a simple matter of supply and demand though. Increase the supply side of good CEO material and prices will come down. The simple reality is that most people who venture down that road just simply don't have what it takes, or are unwilling to make the sacrifice. Believe me those compensation packages don't come without sacrifice. Being a CEO isn't a job, it's your life. |
