| Author | Message | ||
     Pwnzor |
Ok, this rider is most definitely a douche canoe... But THIS is a bit much. After the cop knocks down his motorcycle with his cruiser, another cop comes out and goes straight to beating the downed rider with a club. | ||
| Boogiman1981 |
"“Every citizen deserves a measure of respect. As Chief of police for the city of Dallas..."" really 'a measure'? who gets to say how much that is? how about jsut getting respect? guess that's to much to ask. | ||
| Tx05xb12s |
Mamma says two wrongs never make a situation right, and I believe her. But the rider was a douche though. If he had just stayed on the sidewalk, he'd have likely gotten a warning and a stern talking to if he'd been polite to the officers. Worst-case he'd have gotten some sort of ticket and been on his way. Case in point, I've been caught riding triple digits on my bike more than once and have never gotten a ticket. I credit this specifically to being very polite and compliant when I get pulled over. Instead, this jerk cost two officers their jobs, and possibly more. It doesn't excuse the officers and they deserved to be fired based on the video, but then again the rider did kinda deserve an ass beating... | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
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| Wolfridgerider |
I don't think he deserved a beat down... he was down. now if he was swinging at the officers... then it would be game on. The police should have enough discipline to know they shouldn't be beating the public they serve.... and they should be smart enough not to give a beating in front of the camera... take that $hit off camera.... | ||
| Rah7777777 |
It's about damn time the law put there foot down! I'm glad they beat that piece of craps ass! Now make those cops poster children and do a bunch of commercials and people might start listening to the law better! This guy had a bunch on his record... He deserved it! If been arguing with a co-worker about this since last week. Go Dallas cops!!! ( and I live in Dallas county ) | ||
| Hootowl |
Boy, he sure can ride fast in a straight line. I could almost be convinced that they used reasonable force to stop a fleeing suspect who had showed wanton disregard for the safety of those around him. They hit him what, three or four times? Hardly what one would consider a "beating". | ||
| Hootowl |
Suspect was off camera, we don't know whether he was struggling or trying to strike the officers. He also wasn't down before the officers took him down. | ||
| Doughnut |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jm-chVaSCw | ||
| Tpoppa |
The rider was in the wrong obviously, but the Police involved should be punished to the full extent of the law. They assaulted him and then tried to covered it up. The could have just cuffed him and paced him in the squad car. Pull up alongside him so I can beat the sh** out of him,” the officer says. Brown said a police supervisor received an anonymous tip letting him know about the case. As a result 22 officer, including Randolph and Bauer, were interviewed. Randolph has since been fired. He and Bauer will be charged with assault, official oppression and tampering with or fabricating evidence. Officer Henry Walter Duetsch also will be charged with tampering with or fabricating evidence because Brown said he turned the dash camera in one squad car. Bauer and Duetsch remain on administrative leave pending further investigation. Three other officers who made physical contact with the suspect, Officers Jeremy Francis, Robert Kamphouse and Daniel Malouf, also have been placed on restricted desk duty. Police will continue questioning other officers that were at the scene. That is exactly what wrong with law enforcement today. Police are not above the law. (Message edited by tpoppa on September 21, 2010) | ||
| Gunut75 |
Yes, the rider was being a douche, and deserved what he got. The officer's reaction is what lost them their jobs. They would have done better to just restrain him face down on the concrete. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Rah7777777... Police officers are not "the law", no matter what you may think. They are constables trusted to uphold the law. To protect and serve the community. If you're a police officer, and that's your true feeling on the subject, perhaps you should step down from your position and do your community a favor. | ||
| Xodot |
Rah - Is that what is meant by those bumper stickers we see here from time to time ....."Don't mess with Texas"? | ||
| Budgolf |
Just some food for thought, being in the military, and having quite a bit of contact with insurgents every time I'm deployed, I am required to treat them better and with more respect than some police show our fellow citizens. Amazing isn't it? | ||
| Tpoppa |
Just some food for thought, being in the military, and having quite a bit of contact with insurgents every time I'm deployed, I am required to treat them better and with more respect than some police show our fellow citizens. Amazing isn't it? Former Marine here. Your comment is spot on! I wish police had 1/10 the discipline of the members of our military. | ||
| Doughnut |
I am required to treat them better and with more respect than some police show our fellow citizens. I dare say that we are required to as well. Not all do as not all of our Military do. I know a few members of the Military and have had a few bad incidents with them. I hold these incidents against the specific members, not the Military as a whole. I would hope people would do the same for the Police. Everyone hears and sees the bad ones but where is everyone for the good stuff? | ||
| Kc10_fe |
Looks like Dallas PD bought this kid a new bike when he gets out of jail and collects a million. Hopefully he will buy a helmet and some leathers too. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
well heck if he would have been wearing leathers and a helmet the beating would not have hurt so bad.... | ||
| Doughnut |
Firebolt202083,    | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Instead, this jerk cost two officers their jobs, and possibly more. Uh, the "officers" (I have a hard time calling them officers, maybe "thugs in uniform") cost themselves their jobs. Plain and simple. Here you see the problem when you give some mental midgets (who may have gone to junior college) a badge, gun and God-complex. Just think how many times these A-holes have done this prior to getting caught. We MIGHT see 1% of police crossing the line in these types of videos. Just like the "law" likes to come down hard on general citizens, these guys deserve AT LEAST to lose their jobs and serve time for assault with a deadly weapon. | ||
| Pwnzor |
Everyone hears and sees the bad ones but where is everyone for the good stuff? Doughnut, if you have read some of the threads I've contributed to over the years here on the BadWeB, you would see that I have sung the praises of the good cops vs. the bad cops. Most here know I spent a year in prison. The cop who arrested me lied on his arrest report, claiming I was carrying a loaded firearm on my person. Video and audio evidence from that officer's own recording equipment bore out the truth of the matter, which was that I was unarmed. The court in which I was convicted showed the world it's ass by allowing the officer to amend his initial report, instead of throwing out the entire case and initiating an investigation into the officer in question. Further, the additional officers who responded to the scene of my arrest robbed the safe in my home of $25000.00 in cash. The continuance of this narrative is a story for another time... I still haven't put the entire thing out there but I assure you it gets worse and worse. The system is in fact stacked well against the citizens it is intended to serve. I do not deny that I was breaking multiple laws on that evening, and I cooperated with every deputy and the special investigator on the case. I did so to protect my family from further repercussions and implication. I bore the burden of my own responsibilities and accepted the sentence which was eventually handed down. I served 1 year behind bars and 3 years of formal (up-my-ass) probation. I have completed the terms of this and paid all the fees in full. During this time, I encountered many officers of the court, patrol deputies and prison guards. I had plenty of time to interact with them and to observe their behavior. The level of corruption and misdeeds of the Orange County Sheriff's Department are on a scale with ancient Rome. HOWEVER, within the system exists a minority which treats each individual with a stern dignity that I feel is proper within the confines of the correctional system, regardless of how poorly the last inmate they came in contact with may have been behaving. I understand implicitly the shit that these deputies have to put up with, as thousands of gang-bangers come and go through the revolving doors set in the prison walls. I sat on my rack and watched it, day in, day out. And even through all this, there are some... a very few... who can stand above it all and mete their reactions to each individual situation and not just wantonly beat the living crap out of everyone who passes in front of them. My hat is off to this minority, even now. I met one of the guards from my barracks after my release, on a whale watching trip of all places. He was one of the good ones. I approached him, and having shaved my year-long beard previous to our encounter, he did not instantly recognize me. When I introduced myself as "foxtrot-6 Anthony" he paled just briefly and I extended my hand to him. He took it and shook it, and I immediately thanked him for his humane treatment of me and the other inmates around me. The same way I thank veterans for serving our country. He and I chatted amiably for the rest of the two hour boat ride and observed together a mega-pod of bottle nosed dolphins, over 1500 in their estimated number. A rare sight off the coast of Long Beach California, both the mega-pod, and pleasant reunion between prison guard and inmate. Those who act as he does do in fact serve our country well. | ||
| Blake |
I wish police had 1/10 the discipline of the members of our military. I applaud and respect our military and our police. That one or the other is an order of magnitude better disciplined is tough to figure. Are you ignorant of Mai Lai? Or the recent murders in Afghanistan? Pretending that any group is populated by near saints is foolish. Really bad people will always manage to find their way into just about any career, just ask the Pope. (Message edited by Blake on September 21, 2010) | ||
| Doughnut |
Pwnzor, I have never tried and never will say there are not bad cops. I know there are. From the other side, I responded to a dv, the man saw me through the front window along with other uniformed Officers. He had a history of weapons, was threatening to kill his girl friend and her cat. She was scream as if she was about to die (to this day I have not heard such a fearful scream). We kicked the door and he came out swinging a wooden baton. He caught me on the left side of my head BREAKING the baton when he hit me. He was larger (6'4, 240 well built. Me, 5,9 160). He continued to hit me in the leg (I had kicked out and locked my leg holding him at the hip) multipule times and we fell through the gaurd rail by his door. Fellow officers pulled him off and took him into custody. He fought the whole way. To this day I don't remember a few moments of that incident that other officers have told me about who were on scene. I didn't shoot him because the "victim" (another story) was about 5 feet behind him and I didn't want to hit her. I am not justifying these Officers. They seem over board to me, but I can understand the rage that can build. You never know what the Officer you are dealing with just dealt with. The DA when reviewing my case stated that it was part of my job. My job is to enforce laws not take a beating. My job is to enforce laws, not to dish out punishment. If you ever get my way let me buy first and shake your hand.  [For the record, he stated he thought I was "Mel" (even though he looked at us through the front window) who was there to kick his ass for beating the victim. "Mel" is a 6'9, 350 black male. I am a 5'9 160 white male in full uniform ] | ||
| Doughnut |
I have all sorts of feel good things I personally have done as an Officer as well as other Officers I know but those don't sell papers. | ||
| Doughnut |
AND (sorry ) do you realize how many LEOs are military? | ||
| Tpoppa |
I applaude and respect our military and our police. To pretend that one or the other are an order of magnitude better disciplined than another is silly. Bad folks can slip through the cracks. As a whole, the military is simply held to higher standards. That goes for physical fitness, discipline, etc. Members of the military frequently encounter enemies. Police encounter citizens, and I would concede that some citizens are bad. Even the bad ones have rights. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
I think Blake said it well while us in the army 99% treat our detainees with respect and stuff there is always that 1% that will screw things up and they are the ones on the cover of the papers just like the cops. probably 95% of them are good cops but that 5% is the ones that are going to do this mess and make the news. The good ones never make the cover of the paper unless they are dead or close to dead. | ||
| Tpoppa |
I have all sorts of feel good things I personally have done as an Officer as well as other Officers I know but those don't sell papers. Good Stuff! It seems that acts by bad ones have shaped peoples opinions. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
also what doughnut says is true a lot of military get out and become cops. Heck here at ft hood every time you go to the ACAP(classes to help get a job after army) briefings there is different law enforcement recruiters trying to hire soldiers getting out. | ||
| Doughnut |
I guess it is perception. I have had BAD incidents with Military. One is family. Another is a felon now and I wont go into his crime but to say that it is an unforgivible in my mind. I love and support our Military. It is one of my few real regrets that I did not serve, possibly part of the reason I do what I do now. The best Officer I know is family and was (is) Military. Personally I am hurt by a lot of Military when I have encounters with them becase in my experience they have looked down on me (us) and have felt intitled. But I still love our people serving and have respect for them and hold the bad ones as individules, not as "The Military". |
