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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I won't bore everyone with all the details and such but some of you know that I lost my bike in Dec due to a douche canoe pulling out in front of me. That said...

I work with a guy who doubles as a youth Pastor. He's the type of guy that if he drank, you could sit and have a beer with him. He's cool. He obviously knows what happened to me in Dec. I've been pissed off at the world lately, taking it out on the all the wrong people and I believe it's due to me not having my bike or officiating football to cool myself off. WELL...today Mike pulls me to the side and tells me that the Lord has told him to give me his bike. I'm blown away by this. I truly don't know what I should do here. I'd literally feel guilty for taken this guy, my friend's bike.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Then tell him that.

Sit and talk about it with him. Sounds like a very cool gesture...but I'd have a hard time too if it were me.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree, tell him how you honestly feel. I don't know how you are financially, but buy the bike off him, perhaps do favors for him too.

I know I couldn't accept good bike for free.

(Message edited by froggy on July 07, 2010)
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I personally would not be able to accept it. BUT maybe the offer has been a good eye opener and you can mend your ways...? I mean, you must be total HELL to be around if I guy is willing to GIVE you his bike just to shut you up...

~SM
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What can you do? Deny him the blessing? Be so ungrateful as to call him poor? He is a friend? Will you owe him? It is the Lord's bike. Lord may be telling him he can't ride it anymore. Lots of thoughts and questions arise when I hear something like this.
If it were me giving, I would mean it, and have thought out all the choices. If God told or lead me to do something, my choices would be simple.
If I were you, I'd graciously accept with the understanding that if he needed it back, I would let go of it.

P.S. Only accept it with the understanding that he will pray for your safety daily.
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Jwblue
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't feel good about taking it then don't take it!

Trust your inner voice. It's trying to tell you something. Perhaps about taking advantage of someone. Or perhaps about being indebted to someone that you don't want to be indebted to.

If you feel guilty while riding it, what fun would that be?

Thank him, but tell him if he must give away his bike, to sell it and give the proceeds to a charity that can make good use of it.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

pay him [or donate to Church]
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Aeholton
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your friend is a super guy. If you take it, never sell it or trade it in. If you find yourself in a position to purchase another bike, give his back to him. May God bless him for such a gesture.
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R100rs
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

swordsman,my thoughts exactly.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't know how you are financially,

I didn't become a millionaire, but I got enough to do what I want once they found Mr. Canoe at fault. I needed time to heal before I buy a new one.

If I were you, I'd graciously accept with the understanding that if he needed it back, I would let go of it.

This is what I talked about with my wife. If I accept it, it will sit for quite some time so HE can reflect on what he has done.

I mean, you must be total HELL to be around if I guy is willing to GIVE you his bike just to shut you up...

lol I thought about that too. I can go off the deep end sometimes but never at work and never towards him. We are equals at work. When we are at the courthouse, he runs the show. When we do any project outside the court house, I run the show. I don't act towards him like that because I respect him and his work ethic. Some others under us, not so much.

I for sure have some thinking to do about this. I've wanted a bike since the day they told me mine was totaled. I'm buying another Buell no matter what come tax time. I think I'm more freaked out that no one has ever does anything like this for me. Hell, this guy gave a kidney to an absolute stranger! He's one hell of a guy, but will I have guilt when I pull up to the shop and he's standing outside? I KNOW I won't while riding. I could give a sh!t how I come across a bike, when I ride it's just me, the bike and the road. Screw anything else.
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Gschuette
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Typical religious guy. He gets off on you thinking he is the nicest guy ever. All those youth ministers are the same, all buddy buddy. He is doing it to make himself feel better (or to avoid you killing him in a fit of rage). Either way there is something in it for him.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, why has no one even asked what kind of bike it is? I think this is the deciding factor.
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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ok, why has no one even asked what kind of bike it is? I think this is the deciding factor.


H/D Soft Tail

Not sure what year and really doesn't matter. With talking with my wife and parents, they feel it is God using Mike and his bike to commend me for some good deeds I've done lately.

Gschuette...He trains in MMA and carries a gun. Not your typical religious guy. Hell, were going to the XFC fights in Tampa Friday nigt. My fit of rage
wouldn't stand a chance...lol
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man up and Accept the scoot, its your decision, not Badweb's.
.. and, more importantly, it's clearly God's will.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't ask us or him if you should take it. Ask God. And don't ask him how you see other people asking him, ask him how you want to ask him. He'll meet you where you are at.

The only constraints I would put on it are:

1) Its God's bike now. It's not yours to sell. So ride it, but listen, and if God tells *you* to give it away, you have to do it also. If you can't abide by those terms, don't take it in the first place.

2) Take it seriously. It's a big deal, let yourself feel the weight of it.

Gschuttee... you may be right, but the "something in it for him" might be to know he puts God before 'stuff'. Or if you don't believe in God, to at least demonstrate that he doesn't worship a motorcycle. Good for him either way.
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2008xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow. That's a big gesture. I would ask if you can ride the bike until you get your own. And then if he doesn't want it back maybe to donate it to a charity. I know others said it, but whatever you do, don't make a profit off that bike. Bad juju. Or if you want to keep the bike maybe when tax $ comes donate what you would've paid the for the bike?
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Danger_dave
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 06:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whatever happened to Biker advice.
Take it - sell it - and buy booze and hookers.
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Bosh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Whatever happened to Biker advice.
Take it - sell it - and buy booze and hookers.
"

LOL... that's funny! Not only that, but it's Gods will!
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some great advice above. And a post from DD. (which was my first thought also, of course)

No one here can advise you on this matter obviously. This is not a drill. It's time for you to shit or get off the pot.

My advice to you is to take it to God. I think he's trying to get your attention. If I was you, I'ld get to know him better right about now. He has a plan for you that you will like.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Whatever happened to Biker advice.
Take it - sell it - and buy booze and hookers.




LOL. Been tried, God will love you anyway. Deal with it. ; )


quote:


Luke 15:11-32 (New International Version)

The Parable of the Lost Son
11Jesus continued: "There was a man who had two sons. 12The younger one said to his father, 'Father, give me my share of the estate.' So he divided his property between them.

13"Not long after that, the younger son got together all he had, set off for a distant country and there squandered his wealth in wild living. 14After he had spent everything, there was a severe famine in that whole country, and he began to be in need. 15So he went and hired himself out to a citizen of that country, who sent him to his fields to feed pigs. 16He longed to fill his stomach with the pods that the pigs were eating, but no one gave him anything.

17"When he came to his senses, he said, 'How many of my father's hired men have food to spare, and here I am starving to death! 18I will set out and go back to my father and say to him: Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. 19I am no longer worthy to be called your son; make me like one of your hired men.' 20So he got up and went to his father.
"But while he was still a long way off, his father saw him and was filled with compassion for him; he ran to his son, threw his arms around him and kissed him.

21"The son said to him, 'Father, I have sinned against heaven and against you. I am no longer worthy to be called your son.[a]'

22"But the father said to his servants, 'Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet. 23Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let's have a feast and celebrate. 24For this son of mine was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' So they began to celebrate.

25"Meanwhile, the older son was in the field. When he came near the house, he heard music and dancing. 26So he called one of the servants and asked him what was going on. 27'Your brother has come,' he replied, 'and your father has killed the fattened calf because he has him back safe and sound.'

28"The older brother became angry and refused to go in. So his father went out and pleaded with him. 29But he answered his father, 'Look! All these years I've been slaving for you and never disobeyed your orders. Yet you never gave me even a young goat so I could celebrate with my friends. 30But when this son of yours who has squandered your property with prostitutes comes home, you kill the fattened calf for him!'

31" 'My son,' the father said, 'you are always with me, and everything I have is yours. 32But we had to celebrate and be glad, because this brother of yours was dead and is alive again; he was lost and is found.' "


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Firebolt32
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man up and Accept the scoot, its your decision, not Badweb's.

I know it's not Babweb's decision. I've only met a couple of you guys but I've been here long enough to see what kind of guys I haven't met. I'm just looking for guidence and what not.


Mike is funny because he told me he could care less if I used it to start a bon fire! I have WAY too much repect for him to turn around and sell it or trade it in. I told my wife that the bike would die with me if Mike never wanted/accepted it back. If he won't except it back once I've got another bike, I'll pay it foward.

I'm going to take the bike but I just don't know how you can thank a person for something like this?
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do what I would do:
Make a thoughtful tithe to his church.
...and take him to a **tty bar for some lap dances.
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Svh
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not "borrow" it until tax time if he doesn't want to ride it. Then when you get your bike you can graciously give it back with a full tank and thanks.

That is what I would do.
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Ourdee
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Two words; thank you.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, July 07, 2010 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. ...


Just say'n....
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Irideabuell
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 06:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I won't bore you with the details of my religious history, but suffice it to say that in the last 10 years married to my first wife (who was Pentecostal), 5 churches and all with similar issues that led to our departure (4 for a variety of infidelities among the elders and 1 due to an absolute lunatic for a pastor) I found only one pastor that actually led a life of reality.

He truly enjoyed motorcycling and always had to borrow someone's bike in order to ride. A member of our congregation gave him an old BMW and you'd thought he received a million dollars and the hot line to the Lord himself. I gave him all of my extra gear (helmet, jacket, gloves) and didn't think twice about it. Again, the pastor was driven to tears.

I learned from this example that sometimes, given the right circumstances, a person can give of themselves and not think of it negatively in any fashion. I haven't seen this individual for many years and always think fondly of him and am glad that I was able to help him.

He too was the only individual in that 10 year marriage that I found was enjoyable to be around and not a hypocrite as it pertained to his chosen profession. It was tough getting up every Sunday morning and hearing my ex rush me to get ready. I wasn't the least bit interested in going except for that short time we attended this pastor's church.

In the end though, he ended up being pushed out by the AG administration for reasons that were provided in a very vague manner. I was assured when I questioned the validity of his dismissal that they were concrete. Hah!!!!!

I have not attended a day of church since my divorce and see no compelling reason to do so.

I guess what I'm saying is, if you have a relationship with this individual that drives him to feel right about giving you his bike and you initially feel good about it, then take it. Everyone will have second thoughts once they analyze the situation, but your gut instinct is probably the one that tells the true tale.
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Doug_s
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no freaking way i would accept the bike - even if it was something i wanted to ride, lol!

doug s.,
oh lord, save us from your followers...
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If God's will isn't good enough for you, get a second opinion from Chuck Norris
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Firebolt32
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've talked with Mike today about this again. He's dead set on giving me this bike. I told him that I will accept his offering but if for any reason he feels that this was a mistake, I will give the bike back with no hard feelings. He feels I will enjoy it more than he would due to him not riding it as often as I would. So, I'm going to do it.

Thanks guys for all your opinions. That's a reason why I enjoy this place.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not "borrow" it until tax time if he doesn't want to ride it. Then when you get your bike you can graciously give it back with a full tank and thanks.

That is what I would do.

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