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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Learn something new every day.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2010 - 07:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Newish engine + Cycle Rama
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the "buy another tuber" idea. you'll have plenty of spares and they can be had for the cost of a NOS engine (ballpark I'd bet).
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Crackhead
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"you could do like the chopper people like to do with our bikes and take a really nice sportster and strip it down and take its engine."

use the $ made from parting out the bike to do a nice street build on the motor. (lighten the crank, XB top end, Backer smooth shift kit, ect)
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Ratbuell
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 07:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The engine in my S2, with heavy flywheel and Thunderstorm top end, is just as strong feeling as my stock S1W with factory Thunderstorm engine.

The heavy flywheel doesn't make as much of a difference as you'd think...other than the aforementioned inertia during shifts. The S1W does seem a little more peaky...but again, it's a much lighter bike, too.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, fellas-
The heavier flywheel of my S2 may likely had a hand in its longevity. I'd rather stay with the older sportster components, including an early style head, hence my NOS thought.
I'd like to simply drop a fresh mill in, along with all new mounts, ties, isolators, and suspension (found brand new in plastic shock on ebay for $80-), and keep it a stripped (figuratively 'chopped') tuber....for longevity and reliability.
I'm now thinking along Glitch's idea of a stock Sportster mill, and I'll call HD and some shops to see if such an animal exists....while keeping my eyes peeled for a cheap low-end that I could B&B (bench & build) over a few months.
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Tramp
Posted on Monday, June 28, 2010 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)





This is a very sleepy old engine....
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone know if any dealers ahve NOS sporty mills?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll check my end, but most everything I've found so far have been used engines.
Have you checked salvaged bikes?
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, Glitch- I may do just that, however I was hoping to order something absolutely fresh and unrun form a dealer.
This is one of the reasons I'm posting here as opposed to in the classifieds: It would be interesting to our community as a whole to ascertain availability of fresh mills for tubers.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Quoted from another forum:
To buy a new motor or set of cases from HD you have to send in the old cases, or at least the portion with the VIN. We've done it many times. The new one comes in with the same VIN.
Might be worth a call to HD, if you don't mind losing your old engine.
Man, I'd love to see the autopsy report on your old engine!
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can send in your engine to HD and they will completly re Freshen your motor! They can replace everything that has wear! I Read, in I believe Hot Bike where they sent in an old motor to the HD Factory and for something like 2 Grand they will replace damn near everything and what is not replaced machined to spec.
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Brinnutz
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Check this out...

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/mcy/1817653477.htm l
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks, all.
I'm interested in NOS engines: all metals brandy-new, no post-dealer miles.
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Ulynut
Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2010 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This tells the whole story...




pic taken same day
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That'd be my headlight switch dangling next to the battery...
and my scoot's nickname on the frame sticker.

(Message edited by tramp on June 30, 2010)
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 06:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can send in your engine to HD and they will completly re Freshen your motor!
May want to check into this, last I knew the Sportster engine wasn't included in the H-D rebuild program, the only engine exempt from the program.
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Tramp
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch is correct- I had checked into this last week.
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Moxnix
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does H-D have any race-only Buell engines left in the back room, no numbers stamped, etc.?
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the clarification Glitch! Didn't realize that! When I read the article, they didn't mention that detail and too bad because it was something I was considering doing in the future! And sorry if this is a stupid question but what is Tramp refering to when he says NOS? (New Operating System)???
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NOS= New Old Stock.

and the race engine has been covered earlier...
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Cyclonemick
Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotcha! Thanks for clarification!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I put two bottles of NOS in my bike, and now it runs like crap : )
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Jramsey
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot,that must be because you forgot to drill the ECM.
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it's the ballast
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Tramp
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone here know of any dealers that have NOS sporty engines lying about?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe someone at Erik Buell Racing could tell you something?
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

last i was aware, we could not buy sportster crate engines from hd. big twins all day long, but not sporty mills
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Rick_a
Posted on Friday, July 02, 2010 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can buy new Sporty mills, but only current production units. That's how it's been for years. The 04+ cases are all wrong for tuber mounts.

Do the XB engine. Do it. Do it.

A little machining and the magic can commence.
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