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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Likely that HD will be owned by someone else, hopefully Buell : ) , by this time next year.
OH THE IRONY that would be!
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Court
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

By the way . . . one of my PERSONAL favorites on the Board of Directors:


quote:

Martha Finn Brooks serves as Principal Executive Officer of Novelis Inc. Ms. Brooks serves as Chief Operating Officer of Novelis Korea Limited. Ms. Brooks served as Chief Operating officer of Novelis Inc. from January 2005 to May 8, 2009 and served as its President since May 2007 until May 8, 2009. She served Corporate Senior Vice President and President of Alan Rolled Products Americas and Asia business group of Rio Tinto Alcan (formerly, Alcan Inc.) from August 1, ... 2002 to December, 2004. Ms. Brooks also served as Chief Executive Officer of Rolled Products Americas and Asia at Rio Tinto Alcan. She led three of Rio Tinto Alcan's business units, namely North America, Asia and Latin America. Prior to joined Rio Tinto, Ms. Brooks served as the Vice President of Engine Business, Marketing, Sales and Engineering Worldwide at Cummins Inc. During her 16 years with Cummins Inc., she held various senior positions in Business Development, Marketing, Sales and General Management Positions. Ms. Brooks served in China, Mexico, the former Soviet Union, Europe, Africa, and the Middle East holding a wide range of positions. She served as the Vice President at Cummins Inc. from May 1996 to June 2002. She has been director of Harley-Davidson, Inc. since April 25, 2009. She has been a Director of Bombardier, Inc. since August 24, 2009. She served as a Director of Cummins Westport Inc. and International Paper Inc. She serves as a Trustee of the Hathaway Brown School. She serves as a Trustee of Manufacturers Alliance/MAPI Inc. She served as Director of International Paper Co. since December 9, 2003. She is a Member of the Board of Trustees of Manufactures Alliance and the Yale-China Association. She is a Board Member of The Aluminum Association and Keep America Beautiful Inc. Ms. Brooks holds a B.A. in economics and political science and an M.B.A. in international business from Yale University.

Total Calculated Compensation $1,490,924


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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How is that not a conflict of interest?
How could either board have her on?
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 06:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"I take it that you didn't attend the Harley 100th..."

You mean the one that featured Elton John?
That should have been a hint that all was not right in the H-D Head Shed.

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1313
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 07:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Likely that HD will be owned by someone else, hopefully Buell : ) , by this time next year.

I was thinking that's what this years April Fools Day story would be.

But the more I thought about it, the more 'looking backwards' it became. Erik Buell's style is definitely more towards looking forward.

Looking forward!
1313


(Message edited by 1313 on May 02, 2010)
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 07:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You mean the one that featured Elton John?

I think I have pictures of some of the attendees:



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Steveford
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A younger Wandell en route to the 100th Anniversay festivities (this photo was taken several years before he got his motorcycle permit so he had to hoof it).

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess we know where he stored his golf balls.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Y'all are just sick
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Bads1
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That last guy was found here on the BadWeb. I posted a pic of that guy years ago. Frigg'n ugly hey??
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Cyclonedon
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't go to the 100th concert downtown, I couldn't get tickets. They were sold out! I've seen Elton-John in concert a couple of times, he puts on a good show.
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Mikej
Posted on Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

re: football:
I still think of the Rams as the Los Angeles Rams.

re: Harley-Davidson:
Time will tell ....
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Pso
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wanted to move to Tn. when I found out they had a mutton festival. It has been relabled to some other type of festival. I also attended it and I did not get the mutton that I was accustomed to in Great Britian in the 50's. I think it was in Murfresburoe or some such. They did have an interesting stew like substance that some old Mt. man told me his secret recepe was to go out early in the morning and shovel up all the fresh road kills and also shot some squirels for fresh meat. It was realy very tasty. I hope no one moves (including factory folks)to Tn. till after I retire and can afford to purchase a house before the prices skyrocket.Loverly state, lovely whiskey, lovely riding, lovely folks.
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Elvis
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They have a complete workforce, management and union, as motivated as they can get them by telling them "there's no assurance you'll have a job here in the future and we're considering leaving Milwaukee".


This is a really interesting point, because, in management's ham-fisted effort to extort money out of Milwaukee, and/or sell out to the highest non-Milwaukee bidder, they are basically telling their workforce: "We don't need you. You aren't a valuable part of this company and your dedication, knowledge, experience and love for these motorcycles is meaningless to us. We can hire any idiot to do your job."

That's not good management. You can bet Erik Buell wouldn't send
that message to the people working for him.

Harley used to be, not all that long ago, a company that was something of a model of management and labor working together toward a common goal.

How things have changed. It seems like there's not much left of the elements that made Harley a special company a few years back.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 04:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wonder what HD would look like with Erik at the helm.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 04:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Erik's former workers were not unionized, and have never held the company hostage with strikes and walkouts. Can you say that of HD's workforce? Loyalty? Yeah, to the almighty dollar.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Wonder what HD would look like with Erik at the helm."

They'd be missing a few folks in upper management.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Somehow, Erik's insistence upon one part doing several jobs in order to reduce the part count would be applied to the corporate structure.

Man I'd like to see a fit and trim HD under Erik's hand.

THAT would be a sight to see.
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Court
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Man I'd like to see a fit and trim HD under Erik's hand.

In addition . . . there are some REALLY talented folks at HD who are paralyzed with fear at the moment. The manta now has nothing to do with making a meaningful contribution, it's "just don't get canned".

Erik would weed the garden and let the sun shine on those talented folks.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 05:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Erik would weed the garden and let the sun shine on those talented folks.

Might find that there is not much left in the garden but dirt...

This is all a ploy just like Mercury Marine did in Fon Du Lac a few years ago to get union concessions and state tax breaks. Then the next year the executives took a nice fat bonus. personally I would love to see some other bike company be the image of America as opposed to HD. Maybe it would be a new Buell company or even one of the upstart electric firms. HD probably won't leave or die, but maybe a good bankrupcy and significant downsizing of corporate bums would make it a company worth being proud of again. They need a willie G part II, because right now they are worse then AMF.
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 08:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is how patriotic HD is. During the first Gulf War HD went on strike. So what you say? Well HD, at the time, made bomb casings for the war effort. They used this to leverage whatever they wanted at the time.

Elvis nailed it.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We seem to forget that companies have a life cycle:



The BEST thing that can happen to HD is for new ownership to step in and give it new wings.

This is what happened post AMF.

I believe they will call these new days post Wandell.
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Two_buells
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>This is how patriotic HD is. During the first Gulf War HD went on strike. So what you say? Well HD, at the time, made bomb casings for the war effort

You need to have your facts straight, during that strike, casings were shipped and parts for military bikes were shipped also.

The last strike/lockout was not the Unions fault! The Company told Union Employees one month before the strike that they needed to cut 10,000 bikes from the first quarter’s production. The MOCO made the Union strike and was able to cut 10,000 bikes by being off/locked out for three weeks and blaming the whole deal on the Union
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I used to have the news paper clipping but I am sure you are correct.

I remember seeing a couple of dirt bikes that was contracted by the military or just straight out bought. NOT Harley. What did the Harleys that the military used (in the Gulf War) look like?
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Two_buells
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

rotax powered Harley Dirt bike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWlk1auG8g
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F_skinner
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 10:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wonder why they never sold a civilian version. Thanks for the link.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't fit the "core demographic".


Besides, have you SEEN the average KLR rider?


They couldn't figure out how to market plastic milk crates and zip ties.



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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, May 03, 2010 - 11:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



Hayes Diesel - converted from Kawi KLR military bikes - converted to Diesel. Over 400 mile range and runs on ANY military diesel, jet fuel.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

why not move it here to florida? just outside daytona? plenty of space out there plus it's daytona!!
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harley-Davidson Inc. has warned its employees it may have to move its Milwaukee manufacturing operations if it can't cut millions of dollars in costs.

Ummm... gee, how much was Wendell's bonus again?

retards.

~SM
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