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Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:56 am: |
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I purchased a throttle cable awhile back and it was 17 buck retail.... I ordered one today... $50 bucks WHATS UP WITH THAT?? Are we going to be paying thru the nose for parts for the next 7 years?? |
Swordsman
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:00 am: |
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I expect "yes". The law requires them to provide parts, but I don't think there are any rules regarding the prices. I'm sure they'll tell you it has to do with supply, since Buell no longer exists, but I can't help but feel there's more to it. Could be the dealer too. Maybe check with a different one? Unless you're already dealering with a sponsor... then we're all just screwed. ~SM (Message edited by Swordsman on December 08, 2009) |
Froggy
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:09 am: |
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They were $50 last time I checked, over a year ago. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:24 am: |
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N0307.1AK Throttle X 1 ea. N0308.1AK Idle X 2 ea. 38726-06 Clutch Cable X 1 ea. 17036-91 Gasket kit X 1 ea. |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 11:39 am: |
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N0307.1AK - $49.00ea N0308.1AK - $49.00ea 38726-06 (Supercede to 38726-06C) - $32.50ea 17036-91 (Supercede to 17036-91A) - $60.95ea These are the current retail prices according to the price book. Doesn't show historical prices, so I don't know what they were before. So that's what you should be charged - or less, depending on the dealer. ->ChelleM |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |
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Thanks Chellem.... I know the N0307.1AK Throttle cable was less than 20 bucks not to long ago. I just gotta get home and look at the price tag. I just about $hit myself when I was given the total.... |
Brinnutz
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:43 pm: |
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Mark, I ordered a main wiring harness for my M2 awhile back, only to get order cancelled. With my 20% off discount, it was like $173...It got cancelled because the price with 20% discount shot up to $330. Yeah, they are using no lube nowadays. BTW, they don't even make the part anymore, it's just sitting in inventory. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 12:48 pm: |
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My dealer takes VERY good care of me because I teach Riders Edge for them.... the price poke is coming straight from H-D Kinda sounds like the folks charging 10 bucks for a bottle of water after a hurricane wipes out the water treatment plant...... |
Spatten1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 01:02 pm: |
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Call Motion Pro, they will make anything you want, even custom lengths. |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 01:56 pm: |
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HD has been gouging the HD owner for years, why not the Buell owner?? Chelle...can you look up the part number for front rotors for a VRod? |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:25 pm: |
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VR Front Brake Rotors depend on the model year; 2002 - 2005 VR Models (Hayes Calipers); 44343-01, BRAKE DISC, FRONT - BadWeb Price = $85.34 each. 2006 - Present VR Models (Brembo Calipers); 44553-06A, BRAKE DISC, FRONT - BadWeb Price = $90.00 each. Hope this helps. Chris |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 02:45 pm: |
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want me to sent you my harness wilson. hate to see ya screwed because of h-d. |
Chellem
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:01 pm: |
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Thanks hon, ah, OdinBueller! (He's quicker with the looking-up-part-numbers.) ->ChelleM |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:15 pm: |
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man, those are pretty cheap F discs !! |
Buellinachinashop
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:18 pm: |
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thanks, wow, fast service. |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 04:28 pm: |
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"man, those are pretty cheap F discs !!" I hear or see "f disc" and it takes me back to the days of DOS. Still trying to keep up with scripting language in my spare time (whenever that is) |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:14 pm: |
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Just a FYI N0307.1AK Throttle retailed for $16.70 on 06-22-07 |
Spatten1
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 05:30 pm: |
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That's f'ed up. The reasonable parts commitment was one of my favorite things about Buell. |
Jramsey
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 06:15 pm: |
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>> BRAKE DISC FRONT Bad web price $90.00 each. Must be something about owning a Fag bike, oem tuber rotors a year ago last summer retailed for $ 325.00. No wonder everybody buys aftermarket. Local True Value store has bicycle brake cables for $ 3.19, cut to length and re-solder end and presto throttle cable for cheap. |
Wolfridgerider
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 06:21 pm: |
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Don't think I wont be taking a good look at the ones I take off to see what else may work in the future..... |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 06:33 pm: |
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"Local True Value store has bicycle brake cables for $ 3.19, cut to length and re-solder end and presto throttle cable for cheap." You'll get what you pay for with that plan. I highly recommend NOT trying this at home! |
Just_ziptab
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 07:26 pm: |
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A "dyed in the wool" Harley buddy went in last weekend with a pocket full of money to buy h-d stuff..anything that took his liking. He went home crying and empty handed. Said ALL of the "stuff" was way wacked in price. Not a very good way to cover overhead if you ask me. h-d "tajmahal" stores will be their own demise. |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 08:34 pm: |
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I can't speak of "tajmahal" dealerships, but we always price our "stuff" at MSRP. Contrary to popular belief, H-D is a name along the same lines as (here's where I date myself) Jordache, Levi's, Izod, Calvin Klein, etc.. You can get the same thing for a lot less, but the H-D moniker will add to the price tag just like the little red tag on the right but pocket of a pair of Levi's or the little alligator on the left breast of an Izod Polo. Collar up or down is strictly a matter of preference. As far as the price change in the OEM parts for Buell, I can only surmise that H-D is not ordering anywhere near as many of each item as the did when production was in full swing, thusly, buying less means a higher price. Kind of like shopping for potato chips at Costco or a 7-11; at 7-11 you get a bag of chips the size of an afterthought for $1 while for $20 at Costco you get a container that dwarfs Cleveland in total mass. If price is an issue, there are aftermarket manufacturers that will fill that void. |
Firstbuell
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 08:59 pm: |
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RE: aftermarket items I respectfully disagree - H-D's uber-aggressive protection goons virtually guarantee that we'll never see any aftermarket "Buell" items EBR-branded stuff aside, perhaps..... |
Just_ziptab
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:09 pm: |
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Price isn't my issue. The reason for the price charged....... IS!. Why is a drive belt for a Buell $175.00?.......because you can't get it anywhere else? All tho not the same technology category, a 1980 Pinto cogged timing belt is less than $50.00 and I doubt very many are sold nowadays compared to Buell drive belts. That Pinto belt doesn't fit anything else and is not a high volume item for the mfg....probably available from the very same mfg of the Buell belts. Why are brandy new $1,800.00 PM Buell wheels selling for $499.00 on eBay("buy it now" and from a dealer)? Unlikely that you are going to get new ones from any body else either.What's the demand for tuber Buell PM wheels? What's the demand for tuber Buell belts in comparison ......go figure? Add that the tuber belt is a completely different animal than the same belt (dimension wise) XB belt..and yet the same price range......../ |
Nevrenuf
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:15 pm: |
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might have to go to the black-market. if there is such a thing for the buells. |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:16 pm: |
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"I respectfully disagree - H-D's uber-aggressive protection goons virtually guarantee that we'll never see any aftermarket "Buell" items" This is not entirely true. You can get aftermarket cables, air filters, handlebars, lights, engine components, and many more items through aftermarket vendors. H-D can't really go after anyone making a single component, but if it infringes on "proprietary" copyrights or trademarks (like the Twin Cam clone issue with S&S), then they clamp down. |
Odinbueller
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 09:43 pm: |
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"All tho not the same technology category, a 1980 Pinto cogged timing belt is less than $50.00 and I doubt very many are sold nowadays compared to Buell drive belts." This is true, though not exactly the same as far as a comparison. These are apples to apples, but you're comparing a granny smith to a mackintosh. A timing belt has no where near the stresses imposed upon it as a final drive belt. And while the XB belt is specific to the XB line, the 2.4L Pinto engine found its way into many more Ford models than just the Pinto. I had a '79 Mustang with the same engine (a real piece of crap I might add) as the Pinto. So the timing belt for a motor that was produced probably in the tens of millions isn't a really fair comparison to the XB (or even Tuber/Sportster belts) that combined may just peak over a million produced at best. "Why are brandy new $1,800.00 PM Buell wheels selling for $499.00 on eBay("buy it now" and from a dealer)?" Not knowing the situation of the seller or dealer, but it sounds like they got stuck with merchandise they can't sell, and are trying to unload it. Cancelled special order or something of the like. But again, this isn't a fair comparison. A factory option wheel is completely different than a functional item required to make the vehicle move. I have the PM wheels on my bike, and they are a really nice set of wheels, once I clean them But PM is one of those marques that is synonymous with a higher price tag due to materials and workmanship, which is why it was an option and not a production component. "Add that the tuber belt is a completely different animal than the same belt (dimension wise) XB belt..and yet the same price range......../" The tuber belt is basically a Sportster H-D belt, and with the bar & shield printed on it, there's your price reasoning. The XB belts were contracted through Goodyear by Buell, so the R&D costs along with materials compared to an equally functional belt, produced in greater quantities with a trademark logo on it would be close in costs. Just my guess, but that's how it looks to me. It's just the fact that once there are more individuals in the supply chain, the ultimate retail price will go up. If you don't buy in bulk, you won't get the price break of a comparable component that is manufactured more frequently. And premium components will come with a premium price. Interesting discussion! |
Just_ziptab
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:01 pm: |
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I was "watching" the PM wheels on eBay(as well as a lot of Buell stuff) and the original ad stated 5 sets were available.A few days later,2 sets were available............and next..........LAST SET.... and they were gone that evening. All gone? Nope,the next day FIVE sets were available AGAIN from the same dealer!!! Watching the feedback and only ONE buyer has gone in with feedback. (???) |
Just_ziptab
| Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2009 - 10:06 pm: |
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OK,what's a CR500 Honda throttle cable cost,retail? Probably pretty damned good quality and probably adaptable to a Buell? Who makes the Buell cable? American made? I'm sure the Honda one is Japan(?) |
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