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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 08:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10582301/President-Oba ma%E2%80%99s-Address-to-Students-Across-America-Se ptember-8-2009

PreK-6 Menu of Classroom Activities:
President Obama¡¦s Address to Students
Across America
Produced by Teaching Ambassador Fellows, U.S. Department of Education September 8, 2009


Before the Speech:
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Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama and motivate students by asking the following questions: Who is the President of the United States? What do you think it takes to be President? To whom do you think the President is going to be speaking? Why do you think he wants to speak to you? What do you think he will say to you?
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Teachers can ask students to imagine being the President delivering a speech to all of the students in the United States. What would you tell students? What can students do to help in our schools? Teachers can chart ideas about what they would say.
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Why is it important that we listen to the President and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?
During the Speech:
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As the President speaks, teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful. Students could use a note-taking graphic organizer such as a Cluster Web, or students could record their thoughts on sticky notes. Younger children can draw pictures and write as appropriate. As students listen to the speech, they could think about the following:
What is the President trying to tell me? What is the President asking me to do? What new ideas and actions is the President challenging me to think about?
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Students can record important parts of the speech where the President is asking them to do something. Students might think about: What specific job is he asking me to do? Is he asking anything of anyone else? Teachers? Principals? Parents? The American people?
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Students can record any questions they have while he is speaking and then discuss them after the speech. Younger children may need to dictate their questions.
After the Speech:
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Teachers could ask students to share the ideas they recorded, exchange sticky notes or stick notes on a butcher paper poster in the classroom to discuss main ideas from the speech, i.e. citizenship, personal responsibility, civic duty.
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Students could discuss their responses to the following questions: What do you think the President wants us to do? Does the speech make you want to do anything? Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us? What would you like to tell the President?
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Teachers could encourage students to participate in the Department of Education¡¦s ¡§I Am What I Learn¡¨ video contest.
On September 8
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the Department will invite K-12 students to submit a video no longer than 2 min, explaining why education is important and how their education will help them achieve their dreams. Teachers are welcome to incorporate the same or a similar video project into an assignment. More details will be released via www.ed.gov
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Extension of the Speech: Teachers can extend learning by having students
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Create posters of their goals. Posters could be formatted in quadrants or puzzle pieces or trails marked with the labels: personal, academic, community, country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in those areas. It might make sense to focus on personal and academic so community and country goals come more readily.
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Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.
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Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.
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Interview and share about their goals with one another to create a supportive community.
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Participate in School wide incentive programs or contests for students who achieve their goals.
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Write about their goals in a variety of genres, i.e. poems, songs, personal essays.
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Create artistic projects based on the themes of their goals.
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Graph student progress toward goals.


I'm sure there is another plan to address the kids 7 - 12 grade.
As a responsible parent, it is my job and my duty to teach my children morals and values to be a responsible citizen in this great nation.
I, for one, will not allow the government to further push a political agenda, or attempt to indoctrinate my children without first going through me. My child will not be participating in this mass indoctrination on the 8th of September, if you know of others that feel as I do, forward this message on. If you don't agree with my understanding of this attack on my household, feel free to contact me, and we'll talk about facts and what is brewing on the horizon.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'll be e-mailing both of my children's teachers tomorrow as well as contacting my friend on the parent/teacher committee. Thanks for sharing.
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

this is coming from the federal level, so probably not much the teacher can do. kinda forced participation it looks like.

go to ed.gov for the story from the fed as well as what they want the teachers to talk about before and after the "speech" got a link for 7th - 12th grade as well.
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Smokescreen
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Welcome, to the machine! (Que spacey Pink Floyd)

Seriously though, I still don't believe we have seen anything yet. Soon they will want all of us to assimilate to that same drum beat.

Can't you hear them marching outside?
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Deadduck
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

every night I wait to get wisped away in a quiet black helicopter to be interrogated by a union official........
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/pcourrielche/200 9/08/25/the-national-endowment-for-the-art-of-pers uasion-patrick-courrielche/
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No holds barred, win at any cost, the ends justify the means.

Fascism.
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Wheelybueller
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfVFxRsKQc
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P_squared
Posted on Tuesday, September 01, 2009 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think my kiddies have a cold coming on. Sure will be a shame they're out of school that day & home sick.
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Kyrocket
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 06:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry I wasn't clear. I'll be e-mailing their teachers just to make sure our school is participating and what exactly they will be doing. I have no problem pulling my two school aged children since they both are in accelerated classes it's just a shame I HAVE to. I will also talk to our parent/teacher contact to express my dismay if in fact this happens.
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"the obama youth"

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Germany 1930s'

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are doomed to repeat them.
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so, they are having the students watch a speech and critically think about what was said?
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.
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Write goals on colored index cards or precut designs to post around the classroom.
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Interview and share about their goals with one another to create a supportive community.
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Participate in School wide incentive programs or contests for students who achieve their goals.
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Think critically? Are you serious? Re-read that section there, copied verbatim.

Oldog's insinuation seems pretty damned good, to me. That list starts out fairly innocuous and then ends on that note.

Goals to 'help the president'? Collected so the students can be 'held accountable'? Rewarding those who accomplish their goals? Some would consider lack of reward a punishment in and of itself - so children will be punished for not helping the President?
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Oldog
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We the people need to get off of our collecctive asses....

and stop this nonsense,

barry the kids are

HANDS OFF!
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This type of indoctrination has been going on at the college level for decades. It doesn't work on everyone, so they're starting earlier. It's a logical progression.
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P_squared
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a logical progression.

And folks wonder why more & more folks are home schooling every year?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I taught my nephew to ride a mini scooter, shoot a gun, hunting basics (you never really master them, you always improve on them), and some of the boyscout fundamentals.
Kids should be doing the job of being a kid, having fun and exploring. There is enough time to find out the world is a big smoke screen that hides the agenda of the all consuming machine.
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm just glad i don't have kids in school and i prey to god that when my grandaughter is old enough to go that there will be a better change in government.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i am very disturbed. thanks for this info! as luck would have it, tomorrow is curriculum night at the school. now i am going, and will be asking my sons third grade teacher about this. so i am debating, keep him home or go watch this thing and pull him out if it gets ugly..
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 01:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is all just guidance from the Ministry of Love...All Double Plus Good...long live Oceanus.
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Hdbobwithabuell
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

We are calling the school tomorrow to have our daughter excused from this. I can think of no reason that ANY president would need to address a 5 year old directly.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pol Pot Year Zero

Indefensible. Creepy.
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Easy_rider
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so, they are having the students watch a speech and critically think about what was said?

+1

and set goals, too!
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Deadduck
Posted on Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 11:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

so, they are having the students watch a speech and critically think about what was said?



Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals.


why do they have to HELP the president?

is that so he can blame the kids after the blaming of Bush loses its steam?

If you look on the www.ed.gov website, the class agenda is a lot more education focused for the 7th -12th grades, leaving the help the president out of it. Why is it different? Maybe because older children have already investigated politics if they are interested and have formed an opinion already?

young children are easier to convince since they typically haven't formed a personal opinion. By spending so much time on a subject in one day, will influence there core beliefs or opinions in the long term.

This is just one more battle that the revolutionary left is taking on that will eventually win their war on the republic.


Everything that the past few administrations
has done has had a purpose building to a long term goal. I can read the overall goal of this one quite easily.

They may appear to lose this battle from a big picture standpoint, but they are building yet another base for the socialist movement that will be of voting age in the next 10 years.

The government, no matter which side of the aisle they are on, has no right attempting to influence the teachings or morals of my children. That is solely the responsibility of my wife and I.
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Thumper74
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This summer, I got my 6 year old a single shot, bolt action .22 rifle he only shoots with and has access too, when I am present. We went out, he loves shooting and is pretty decent.

Gabe is 6 and just started first grade 3 weeks ago... Now he's afraid of guns.

I'm not sure I want him going to school next Tuesday...
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Nevrenuf
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 07:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The government, no matter which side of the aisle they are on, has no right attempting to influence the teachings or morals of my children. That is solely the responsibility of my wife and I.

+100
it's a shame more people don't have that attitude. a lot of people out there have no idea about parenting and would just as well let the government take care of them.
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Ceejay
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

In my best big O voice-"look kids we just saddled you with 1.2 trillion of debt, you all are going to have to own up, take some responsibility for (some of) you're parents/grandparents actions and really start helping us out here."

Deadduck, nevrenuf-I'm in complete agreement. I think my kids and I might be fishing that day...
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Crackhead
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Think about the demographic were this will have the most effect.
The hope is to try and reduce drop out rates and increase the education level in certain area of the country.

It sounds like you are all ready education your children beyond what the program will do.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

well the word here is one local school i heard about was bombarded with phone calls from parents. they "will not be showing it to students that don't want to see it" i'm calling our school today.
**and i will be sending a note for the teacher to sign & return home**

(Message edited by nuke-blue on September 03, 2009)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 09:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

they will be showing it live on whitehouse.gov at noon the 8th
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