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Essthreetee
Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2005 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone know of any books about Buell??? i.e. history, design, etc, etc.

If there are none, what are some good books you have read and found interesting regarding Motorcycles???

Need Title and/or Author plus some info on topic would be great.

I am getting ready for the winter (Don't like tully fog)...Don't have too many projects (Bike is running good)...am REALLY sick of TV (enough said)...
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 04:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zen & the art of motorcycle maintenance,
can't remember the author, bit of a heavy read at times but worth persisting with.

Unless I'm very much mistaken, by Murray Walker (autobiography) great fun, a really interesting man. former bike racer, car racer, & commentator;
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Xldevil
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 05:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buzz Buzzelli
Sportster Performance Handbook ISBN 0-7603-0307-X
Performance upgrades for all X-engines from Ironhead to Thunderstorm.No XB!

Kip Woodring
Sportster/Buell
Engine Hop-Up Guide ISBN 1-929133-09-X
Hop up for street,strip and track
From early Sportster to XB.

I own both books,I read them again and again and again.......

The Art Of The Motorcycle ISBN 3-8228-1330-3
About that famous exposition at the Guggenheim Museum .
So many fantastic bikes.
Regards,Ralph



(Message edited by xldevil on November 28, 2005)
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Whodom
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Peter Egan's "Leanings" is a good read, and I see he's come out with a "Leanings II" this year.
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Dana P.
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John Britten by Tim Hanna
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Brotherbuell
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zen and the art of Motorcycle Maintenance" was written by Robert Pirsig. The truth is that it has very little to do with Motorcycles or Zen. It's a treatise on values. As Grumpy said, it's a heavy read...but worth it. I just read it again after thirty years. That was quite an experience. It was a must read in the 70's and, as far as I'm concerned, holds up even better today.

(Message edited by BrotherBuell on November 28, 2005)
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here is a book that will keep your attention ALL winter, and your skills as a math teacher will come in very handy.
The book is called " Motorcycle Design and Technology" by Gaetano Cocco, former designer at Aprilia.
This book is a highly technical look at the dynamics of motorcycle design, and includes all the relevant formulae. It is a unique book in that it combines original theoretical work, and relates it to the latest high tech motorcycles. Nothing else like it that I know of, and highly regarded in the industry. Here is the Editorial Review on Amazon:

Written for everyone from motorcycling greenhorns to technical experts, this illustrated tour of motorcycle physics and mechanics offers a complete presentation of concepts which have never before been so thoroughly and comprehensibly presented in print. After examining the physical phenomena that govern the handling of a motorcycle, the text goes on to explain the various types of components that come together and make the bike go. Applicable to all makes and models, a generous selection of illustrations and photographs help readers visualize the topics at hand, allowing them to hit the saddle with a more complete awareness that enhances the riding experience.
It is available from Amazon at the following URL:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760319901/ref=ed_oe_p/104-3884196-7077516?%5Fe ncoding=UTF8

It is also available in Hardcover, but cost a whole lot more.
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Ninemileskid
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Rebuilding the Indian" by Fred Haefele.
An writer / tree guy buys a basket case Indian and learns about bikes, life, and himself.
Nice easy read. Wish I hadn't loaned my copy; it never came back.
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12r
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Motocourse 2005-2006 ISBN 1905334052 or any of the previous issues - the older the better. Great books even if you can't read.
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Rek
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love books, especially those about motorsickles. Here's a few I have on the shelf:

One Man Caravan, Robert Edison Fulton
Chasing Che, Patrick Symes
Mi Moto Fidel, Christopher Baker
The Motrocycle Diaries, Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Long Way Round, Ewan McGregor
Leanings, Peter Egan
Ghost Rider, Neil Peart

Some of these are better than others, but they're all good in their own right.

Rob
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Rocketman
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zen is a load of old bollocks.

Murray Walkers biography is great. Sid Watkins is too, as is Nigel Mansell's. In fact Mansell's is brilliant because he's just as big headed in print!

The Long Way Round is ok but their inspiration for the trip came from journalist Ted Simon who wrote of his four year loop of the globe in Jupiter's Travels. He followed that with a more in depth retrospective look at his trip with an aptly titled Riding Home. They are by far away the best globe circling by motorcycle books ever written.

Another to consider is the most up to date edition of The Adventure Motorcyclist Handbook. This is a cracking and fascinating read even if you never intend to circumnavigate the globe by bike yourself. It also happens to include a small contribution about riding in the Outback from one Peter Moltmann. Now where have I heard that name before?

On performance tuning I'm sure Kip Woodring's must be good just based on what he contributed to Battle2win, but ALL of Denish's tuning books are a must have for the serious tuner. He has a great ability to put technical stuff in layman's terms too and all the formulas you'll ever need are there to be had.

Speaking of such ilk, trust Gent Jon to have such a serious tome in his library. Your secret's out now Jon. That's one book I will get my hands on one day but I am absolutely one thousand percent in disagreement with Gaetano Cocco about which way the bars turn when we corner on a bike. Remember that fantastic thread from not so long ago anyone LOL?

There are three other books to include in this thread if we are to consider custom bikes.

From the UK magazine Streetfighters is their same named hardback book and it includes some stunning and not so run of the mill customs, and yes Buell make it in there too.

There's another great book featuring more exotic and prototype kind of machines rather than home built Streetfighter type stuff, and without a shadow of doubt one if not the best type of its kind relating to such bikes is Dream Machines, and Buell make it in here too as do Bimota's, Elf Honda's, Egli Vincent's, hub centre steering and rim mounted brakes amongst many other things!

Lastly in the trio of custom genre and a fabulous book that stands out leaps and bounds above so many many of similar topic is The Art of the Harley.

I have all of the above books except the one Gent Jon has and I can say in all honesty there are only two other books in the world one needs to be BadWeB coherent. They are Michael Moore's Stupid White Men and Dilip Hero's Iraq.

How did I do?

Rocket
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Spiderman
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I took a bunch of articles and interviews and compiled them into a brief history of BMC's development...
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Road_thing
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 10:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zen is a load of old bollocks.

Sean, once again you have convinced me that you are a man of discerning judgment. I read it when it first came out and thought it was a steaming pile.

Then I read it again a couple of years ago and, you know what? It's still a steaming pile.

Of course, Moore's book would probably strike me the same way, were I to read it...

rt
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I second "Ghost Rider" by Neil Peart. An excellent story of one man's quest to find himself after the tragic deaths of both his daughter and wife. He traveled 55,000 miles in 14 months from Alaska and Canada down to Belize.
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Biker_bob
Posted on Monday, November 28, 2005 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any of the street survival books of David Hough or any of the Ron Ayres books on long distance riding
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Essthreetee
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gent. Jon - I will most likely be picking up a copy of that.

Dana - Out of Print...what about Britten Motorcycles: The John Britten Story by Felicity Price...know anything about this one??

Rocketman - You did great...

I will keep looking into the rest...

Still no info/history of Buell or BMC??? I mean, I know some of it...but would like to know more.
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Dana P.
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wow its out of print??? I got it last year for X-mas,not a cheap book by any means.

(Message edited by bads1 on November 29, 2005)
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S2pengy
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I want a copy of the Britton book....
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Buelluk
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 09:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I second The Motorcycle Diaries, i couldn't get through Zen.
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Rek
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/20986.html

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/95101.html?1107229804
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

spiderman said:
"I took a bunch of articles and interviews and compiled them into a brief history of BMC's development..."
you should post that here or PM a copy to him. I read part of it here and it was pretty comprehensive.
Rocketman, Road thing, I absolutely agree re: Zen And The Art. I'm a stranger to neither motorcycle maintenance, or Zen, and the connections he tried to make were very weak and overstated and verbose
and overstated
and verbose
did I mention overstated?
My favourite books regarding motorcycling are the Keith Code "Twist Of The Wrist" series.
Otherwise, I use my reading time for classical lit., Tech. manuals, science and history.
As a kid, I used to pick up textbooks from the used book store and devour them.
Good fun.
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

On a lighter note, a book that I really enjoy, pure eye candy really, is Mick Walker's " Italian Racing Motorcycles",( Redline books, 1998, England), is dedicated to the Golden Age of Motorcycling, the period after World War ll when Italian marques like MV Agusta, Mondial, Moto Morini and Moto Guzzi ruled the Gran Prix circuits of Europe.
I cut my eye teeth on Italian lightweights, and this photo of my my first real competition bike, a 1956 Moto Rumi Junior, (with a factory rider aboard), brought back many happy memories.
xxxx
Unknown to many young riders of today, these beautiful and fast machines set the patterns for the modern bikes of today.
A must for every real enthusiast.
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Henrik
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can't believe nobody has mentioned Kevin Cameron's Sportbike Performance Handbook yet.

Great book describing the development and (relatively) current state of motorcycle design; frame, forks, steering (you'd disagree Rocket : D), motor etc. Written in a fairly approachable form.

Henrik
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing to do with motorcycles, of course, but Patrick O'Brian's series on the adventures of Jack Aubrey and Stephen Maturin in the Royal Navy during the Napoleanic wars are outstanding if you're at all into nautical stuff.

http://www.wwnorton.com/pob/pobhome.htm

rt
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Rek
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

RT!
My absolute favorite series of books, period. If you're the least bit interested in historical fiction or the Royal British (British Royal?) Navy these books are a must-read.

Rob
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ah! well, if we're off motorcycle books and on to "good books.period", I'd recommend remarque's "A Time To Love And a Time To Die"
and "The Road Back"
Conrad's "Lord Jim" and Joyce's "Ulysses"...and if ya digs poetry, maybe Rimbaud's " En Season En Enfer"
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Road_thing
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I tried to read Rimbaud.

It was hell...



rt
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Johnnylunchbox
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Didn't Sylvester Stallone play Rimbaud in a number of films during the late 80's?
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Tramp
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 03:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

KILLIN' me! c'est livre es enfer, ne est ce pas?
I was horrified beyond compare when Leo DeCaprio
was cast as Artur en un film horrible.
merdre!
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Bomber
Posted on Tuesday, November 29, 2005 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I always thought Leo hit his zenith, film-wise, in "Gilbert Grape" --

Zen was a slog, no doubt about it -- no more about Zen or Motorcycles than "Trout Fishing in America" was about fishing, America, or trout, for that matter

whaddya expect from:

1. a tech writer (grin)
2. a guy whose insanity manifests itself as a battle between classical and romatic thought? sound like any engineers you know? (bigger grin)

me, I'm enjoying the Art of War (again), and learning from the 7 volume set of Modern Metalworking I picked up for $15 bucks (published in 19 and 12, the section on aluminum basically sez it's too rare for mere mortals to use for anything, so doubt worry your wee noggin over it {did I mention it was published in Ireland?})

hey, Tramp -- nice to see ya
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