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Author Message   Ethanr Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:34 am:        Test table post...culled these from some of the tire threads over the past 6 months. If you have any corrections/additions or more details just PM me. Blake, this can't easily be updated via "normal" posts. Could we create a perpetual thread with links at the top to separate pages, one of which would have a complete table with the others broken down or sorted by brand, bike, mileage, etc? Could I update something like that via an email file drop? Brand Model Mileage Bike Poster Comments Avon Azaro ST 5000 S3T V2win ...did not wear well (5k) on the rear and it was toast. Avon ST AV45/AV46 S2 Phillyblast Great grip. Bridgestone BT-010 S1W Prozac ...predictable and very confidence inspiring. Bridgestone BT-010 S1 Lightning Timbo ...good grip, and so far they seem to be wearing well. Bridgestone BT-014 XB12S Buellj79 ...awesome, finding it difficult to break them in corners. My comparison being the stock dunlops slip or break traction at a certain point where as the bridgestones keep on gripping so far. Bridgestone BT-014 S1 Lightning Valez ...this tire really is is best I've ever tried. I don't think what I've ever have had better grip on rainy days. And in dry conditions, going out of a curve, with full throttle, there is no way a can make the rear wheel spin, YET. Bridgestone BT-020 7000 S2 Buelliedan They have good traction but they also wear like a stone. Bridgestone BT-020 6000 S3 Jammer Bridgestone BT-020/BT-010 Al_lighton I've been running BT020 rears, BT010 fronts, for some time, and have rather liked that combination. Continental M-Force Radial XB12S Wyckedflesh Today they got a good taste of the rain as well and I can honestly say they did a great job. They don't stick in the dry as well as the Diablo's and the turning has gotten heavy again like the Dunlop's...<http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/67500.html?1091410940>...<http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/86433.html> Continental Road Attack S1W Budo ...am very pleased with them. Good traction dry or wet. Long life. Continental Road Attack XB12R Maxima4xu2 ...alot beter than the dunrocks traction and milage wise soo far and the weird center wear thing is true on my set too maybee dual compound im thinking????? but alround good tire makes the bike respond and handle much beter Continental Road Attack 5000 XB9S Thepup 3000 miles on them so far and very little wear.I live in Fla so not many twisties,but they seem to grip pretty well.Pretty good tire for commuting...5000 miles on them so far and I should be able to get another 4000 or 5000 miles more Dunlop D205 M2 M1a65 I too have been running the Dunlop 220's. Was hoping to see a major improvement over the old 205's. Right off the bat I felt the 205's were a better tire though the 220's were supposed to be be an improvement, especially in the rain. I usually ride in all weather and have been caught out in some nasty monsoons here in Atlanta especially this year. The 220's showed no improvement to my confidence or ride ability in the wet and would also recomend going with the 205's especially if you get a deal. Been thru 2 sets of each and the rider feed back of the 205's was far better. You get a harsher ride on the 220's in my opinion. Dunlop D205 11000 M2 Cyclone Mikej ...fine for street riding, for me anyway. Dunlop D205 M2 Cyclone Reepicheep Overall pretty happy with them. They wore a little on the quick side, and would cup a little, but stuck well, handled nicely, and were fairly priced...<http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/46224.html?1089810126> Dunlop D207 4500 XB12S Lightning_strikes_now The rear tire...was showing signs of heavy wear with the wear bars showing through. Dunlop D207 2800 XB9S Moe03xb ...almost no slab riding. Dunlop D207 4971 S1 Lightning Newfie_buell Dunlop D207 2900 XB12S Odie ...mostly commuting and a few hard rides (mucho corners). Dunlop D207 2300 XB9S Shorty_ii ...rear looks about shot and it has little flat spotting...I rode moderately on generally smooth roads. Dunlop D208 M2 Cyclone Cerbero I love 'em... when they're warm... cold is an entirely different story, however. Dunlop D208 M2 Cyclone Cyclonemick Love em! Warm them up a bit before aggrestive cornering. Dunlop D208 XB9R Darthane Excellent tires, very sticky even in the rain. Dunlop D208 XB9R Husker4life ...a great tire for normal riding with a little bit of fun. Dunlop D208 XB12S Odie Rode my 208 hard today and very pleased with it. I think it may stick better than the 207. Dunlop D208 <4000 S3 Rek ,,,completely wore out, busted belting, zero tread and a major puncture stranding in the middle of nowhere. All that w/ no hot-rodding, peeling-out or any other radical treatment. Dunlop D208 M2 Cyclone Socoken ...am not terribly impressed. these tires have an incredibly rounded profile for faster turn in, but they just dont feel as stable at farther lean angles. Dunlop D20x M2 Cyclone Djkaplan I've run only Dunlops since I bought my bike (205, 207, 208) and am generally happy with them... Dunlop D220 XB9S Brucelee I have 220s and like them very much. Dunlop D220 M2 M1a65 I too have been running the Dunlop 220's. Was hoping to see a major improvement over the old 205's. Right off the bat I felt the 205's were a better tire though the 220's were supposed to be be an improvement, especially in the rain. I usually ride in all weather and have been caught out in some nasty monsoons here in Atlanta especially this year. The 220's showed no improvement to my confidence or ride ability in the wet and would also recomend going with the 205's especially if you get a deal. Been thru 2 sets of each and the rider feed back of the 205's was far better. You get a harsher ride on the 220's in my opinion. Dunlop D220 M2 Cyclone Reepicheep I was overall pretty unhappy with the tire...all the weaknesses of the D205 and none of it's strengths...<http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/46224.html?1089810126> Dunlop D220 S3 S3thunder I am running D220 tires on my S3 and I have no complaints with these tires even on wet roads. I ride mostly back roads here and my D220 tires give great traction and performance on smooth or rough asphalt dry and wet. I sometimes have to deal with mud, gravel and washes that are riverbed and am still shiny side up. Dunlop D220 M2 Cyclone Stubby D220's dont' seem to last as long as I would like, but not so bad. Dunlop OEM 3500 Blast Buellmule ...bald down the middle...I'm a beginner. So it's not like I'm tearing up the roads. Dunlop OEM 10000/15000 S3T Jreichner They seem to be ok. I am able to get about 10k out of the rear and about 15+ out of the front. Metzler M1 XB9S Glitch I really like the Metzler M1s a LOT. Metzler M1 S1W Lake_bueller I feel much better on them than I did on the Dunlops. Metzler Sportec X1 Loki They warm up pretty quick and get real good traction. They also last a decent amount of miles(off the track). Excellent wet weather behavior also...Until the Sportecs are replaced that is all I will run...Can't say enuff about the Sportecs. Metzler Sportec M1 XB9R Fireboltgeo I have gone through 3 sets of Metzler Sportec M1's on my XB9R and like them way better than the Dunlops that come with the bike. They last about 2,000 miles longer, are just as good on dry or wet roads. The big difference is that the M1's handle gravel on the road much better. Metzler Sportec M1 XB9R Lazyme21 ...they are awesome and warm up real quick. Metzler Sportec M1 7000/2500 XB12R M1combat LOVE them. You do indeed need to lean them WAY over to touch the outside edge. Metzler Z4 S2 Henrik I've always been partial to Metzeler tires. [...] and never had an issue with lack of grip. Metzler Z4 S3T V2win ...did not feel secure when pushed hard in turns. Metzler Z4/RoadTech (Z6?) M2 Cyclone Reepicheep ...It wanders just barely on super smooth pavement at 80 with a gusty headwind...has a nice linear turn in. Not quite as quick a turn in as the D205 that was on there, but it seems to let me get a little further over...<http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/3842/46224.html?1089810126> Metzler Z6 M2 Cyclone Gundog ...a vast improvement over the 205 Dunlops. Both wet and dry traction seem to be increased. Michelin Pilot Power 2000 XB9S Gentleman_jon ...extremely happy with them. They are wearing very well, look like new really,mostly about town and sport ride on Sunday work, very little superslab. But the main thing is that they completely transformed the handling of the bike compared to the Dunlop 207. They also work well in the wet and on cold roads. Highly recommended...much better than the Dunlop 207, especially the way they corner. Michelin Pilot Road S3T V2win ...the Michelin Pilot Road is the best for me. I put between 15k and 20k a year on my S3T and [...] ride in all conditions. Pirelli Corsa 10000 Kaese ...felt soft up until the cord started showing...softer compound and I think designed more for the track, but they felt good until the end. Not to mention the mileage I got out of them. I do 95% of my riding during the commute on the freeway. Includes wet and dry conditions. My next and future sets will be the Corsas. Pirelli Corsa 2500 XB12S Wyckedflesh ...1/2 of that being superslab. That is here in AZ with the roads we have here. Mine was shredded down the middle from the super slabbing, front and rear. Pirelli Diablo XB12S Dscak ...am very pleased with them. Much better than the Dunlops. Still have chicken strips on both, and have turned sharper with them than I ever did with the Dunlops, and they had no chicken strips left. Pirelli Diablo 5000 Kaese ...little hard for my liking...I prefer the Corsas hands down. Pirelli Diablo Corsa S1 Lightning Rick_a Switched from Dunlop and am never going back!...got better mileage than the Dunlop sport tires. Pirelli Diablo Sport XB9S Dehorridge Best tyre I have ever fitted to the XB. Warm up real quick and grip perfectly. Not sure about how long they will last but with this performance I don't care. Pirelli Dragon Lemonchili_x1 ...my favourite tyre - pretty sticky, reasonably fast steering and HEAPS of steering feedback... Pirelli Dragon XB12S Wyckedflesh I loved them, I to had the Dragons when they first came out and the Diablo's do everything the Dragon's did, and then some. Pirelli Scorpion XB12S Bigeasy ...good for the back roads. I...like them much more than the dunlop.They last longer and seem to grip better, turning in seems easier also. Pirelli Sport 3500 XB12S Wyckedflesh ...done in by freeway riding.   Blake Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 02:53 am:        Tell me what subtopics you'd like, and I'll install them on this page. You should be able to post tables by email. You could also simply put up new posts to supersede earlier versions of the tables. You can even upload your spreadsheet as an attachment.   Reepicheep Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 08:27 am:        Great start! Add a "street price" column also. Also, the "wandering" comments I made about the Z4 related to having it mixed with another tire, I had a Z4 front and a D220 rear. Once I went to a Z6 rear, it was better. Thats an odd combination, and hardly relevant, so just change my Z4 comment to "Liked the Z4 a lot, complete with it's interesting tread pattern. Great wear, good linear and confidence inspiring turn in, good grip. Since replaced with the Z6, which seems just as good or better, but lacks the cool looking tread pattern".   M1combat Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 10:54 am:        Dunlop D-207 - I only used the original Dunlops for about 1500 miles (I could have probbaly had 2200 out of them). They caused the bike to want to stand up in the corners while using the front brakes. They didn't have a lot of overall grip, but when they did get near the edge, it was a very broad range that they would slide around in. They seem to have been tuned for a wide range of slip angle. They didn't work in the wet very well at all when leaned over. They just didn't really inspire confidence. In the 1500 miles I used the front, it cupped noticeably. Metzeler Sportec M1 - Brilliant tire. A good "sharp" profile that helps the bike to fall into corners VERY quickly and adds a lot of stability (compared to the relatively flat profile of the D207's) when leaned over. It took a while, but I got to the edge of the Metzelers and the bike feels very planted at the edge of the tire. I haven't really been able to slide this tire as much as I could the Dunlop, but I'm sure when I take it to a track I'll be able to. I generally get about 2700-3200 miles out of a rear, and about 8000 from the front. I think the best practice would be to change the front every other time you change the back. I tried to go for three rears to a front and the front is getting a little ragged. It is cupped (although at 8000 it looks as badly cupped as the Dunlop at 1500, it doesn't feel as bad). From now on I'll replace the front with the second rear. Next up - More Sportec M1's. Maybe if I find myself getting to the limit of these tires I'll try the Pilot Powers.   Knickers Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 12:00 pm:        Avon AV45/46, 7000 miles. When new the tread appeared to be thicker than any tire I'd seen. And mileage wise they've held up very will. At 7000 I'm no where near the wear bars. The downside is the handling has gotten so funky I'm gonna have to toss them. The bike requires tons of steering input up to about a 30deg lean angle due to the flat spotting. Once you lean past that point you feel like you're going to flop over because you get onto the less worn sidewall All the steering input you've been providing tightens your turn QUICK.   Djkaplan Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 06:39 pm:        Good thread...   Ezblast Posted on Friday, January 28, 2005 - 07:21 pm:        Nothing Blast related - GT - JBOTDS! EZ   Dino Posted on Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 12:04 pm:        I was surprised at the comment that Bridgestone 020 "wear like stone". The OEM 020s on my FZ1 were to the wear bars at 3K, complete toast at 3,500, front and rear. That said, handling held up well for the life of the tire. Replaced them with Pirelli Dragons which started as a very nice tire, wore well (toast at 5,100) but handling was strange for the last 1,500 or so (similar to Knickers comments above). Dunlop 220s on the FZ1 now. Handling is very nice, haven't noticed any problem with traction on the road. Too early to know about mileage, though my friend Ferris has not been happy with the mileage he got from them.   Ethanr Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 12:34 am:        Testing an update... By Brand by_brand.html (36.1 k)   Reepicheep Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 08:33 am:        Great work Ethan! You are really on to something here (and not just for Buellers, I have looked everywhere for a good summary like that). Can I nitpick? Change my D220 summary to the following: "Supposed to be an upgrade to the D205, but I found nothing better about it and several things worse. Rear slides a lot when cold, violent tire hop and strips peeling off on hard acceleration as it approached the end of it's life. Not a terrible tire, but better ones out there cheaper." And put me in for the Scorpion Sync "3000 miles so far on my 9sx so far, and they are the best tire I have tried (better then my old favorite the MeZ6, which I liked better then the previous favorite, the D205). Cool tread pattern, great grip, decent wear, seems to fall between slow (Mez6) and fast (D205) turn in. Handles gravel / grass / wet very well and is very confidence inspiring". I purposely tried to put in the "paired comparison", which would be another cool feature to add. Everyone who has ACTUALLY OWNED THE TIRES AND RUN THEM TILL REPLACEMENT do a paired comparison. It is not a replacement for the general information above (as you might have different goals for turn in characteristics, or wet versus dry grip), but would be a good quick "tie breaker" or lazy man's way to get decent rubber. Keep them within classes as well... sport, sport touring, touring. Hmm. It would have to be a grid though, otherwise too much typing. I'll think about it.   Ceejay Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 09:31 am:        not sure if I'm adding input in the right spot but D208 seemed sticker than 207's but lasted much less time, don't even think they make 207's anymore so point is moot. Can attest to the stand up problems possibly due to D208's as I have experienced this, or maybe just riding too quickly into turns. Good thread/idea. Hey Reep, reading some previous posts, is that place in Dayton still a good place for tires?   Reepicheep Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 10:09 am:        They have been great for me. Last time I looked, they did not have the Scorpion's in stock, but they could probably order it (or maybe it was just not on the web page yet).   Ceejay Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2005 - 10:51 am:        Sounds good, the place I was going, Iron Pony, costs an arm and a leg and haven't been very nice to a couple of friends wheels, peeling paint, scratching and the like. So I'd like to give those guys a try.   Loki Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 01:05 am:        My S1 does the two rears for every front cycle. Come to think of it the M2 was in the same sort of cycle. Eathanr, Could you change my bike from an X1 to this S1x   Ethanr Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 04:39 am:        > Can I nitpick? By all means, please do. I don't "own" this thing...I'm just trying to manage it and make it more useful. I can use all the constructive input you can feed me. > Keep them within classes as well... sport, sport touring, touring. I thought about classifications, but I don't know what class to put every tire in. If anyone would like to jump in, scan the table, and classify each model (say, by track, sport, sport-touring, touring, general...others?), I'd be more than happy to add a column. Here's another problem we're going to bump into pretty quickly: I can only upload attachments <= 60K. You'll notice the current file is already at 35K. An initial split by classification might help, but eventually it'll break down...too much of a good thing. By Brand by_brand.html (34.6 k)   Reepicheep Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2005 - 08:31 am:        I think your current table is great, stick with that. Any paired comparison tool (which would be valuable but is very ambitious) would be a different tool / chart. We can solve the size problem, keep working on the chart!   Sleez Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 04:36 pm:        just received my set of Dun 208ZRs from americanmototire.com great price even with tax and shipping, beat my local shop by over 15%. if my shop would only throw in mount and balance, i would have bought theirs. mount and balance cost the same regardless of where i bought them, go figure!! i have used Battlax BT-012SS (4-5k on rear)best feeling tire i've used yet. D208s and D207s (3-4k on the rear, twice on the front).but feel great as well. The one set of D205s i used got slightly better mileage (4.5-5.5k on the rear)but cost twice as much, got stuck at a harley dealer before a brag ride with a big hole in my battlax rear! honestly i've worn more fronts out on the edges and rears tend to pick up nails! maybe less than half of all rears on my bikes have made it through their complete mileage life, (mileage indicated), have seriously considered hanging a rare earth magnet between the wheels below the muffler to pick up all the stray steel! i have a set of Tomohawk retreads that i haven't mounted yet as well. also some pilot DOT race tires i got cheap, yet to try! i am going to mount the 208s on my Dymag magnesiums i just scored from ebay!! see how they feel on the Thong!! (Message edited by sleez on February 08, 2005) (Message edited by SLEEZ on February 10, 2005)   Buellisti Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 10:47 pm:        Blake, Sorry I meant ethanr, I think a column for rider weight, riding style, and predominant pavement type would be useful for comparison. Thanks (Message edited by buellisti on February 08, 2005) (Message edited by buellisti on February 08, 2005)   Ethanr Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 01:22 am:        Sleez, can you be more specific re which tires/mileage? I wasn't sure from your post. Buellisti, those would be good data points, but not enough people include them in their comments (yet) to split them into separate columns. We'd wind up taking up screen space with columns that only have a couple non-empty entries. If enough contributors start adding them in, I'll add the columns. By Brand by_brand.html (36.8 k)   SouthernMarine Posted on Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 09:12 pm:        This page was translated from the pirellimot.de site. I really want to check these tires out. I've heard nothing but good things of all the Pirelli tires. Now the driving fun comes correctly on routes... Pirelli presents a motorcycle sport Touring tire with particularly sporty genes. All motorradfahrer, for whom the driving fun stands on a motorcycle route in the first place, should note immediately the name Diablo Strada. The fire-new sport Touring tire possesses all characteristics of Pirellis Diablo family: first-class Grip, leichtfuessiges and precise handling as well as a outstanding handling in all speed ranges. Beyond that the Diablo Strada with a long run achievement, a plus convinces with the travelling comfort and first-class Nassgrip. With the Diablo Strada presents the Italian tradition mark Pirelli the newest child of the successful Diablo family - a sport Touring tire of the extra class. The Diablo Strada connects the super+sporty characteristics of Diablo and Diablo Corsa with everything that makes a long motorcycle route the unrestricted pleasure: Thus the Diablo Strada possesses the Gripniveau of a genuine sport tire, admits leichtfuessige, precise handling and the very stable handling of its super+sporty brothers as well as a short warm UP time. Thus the Diablo Strada offers sporty driving pleasure from the outset, on close passport roads just like in long-drawn-out High speed curves. At the same time the new tire spoils its driver in addition, with a plus during the travelling comfort, a outstanding wet adhesion and not least a run achievement, which can to be able to be measured to from reinrassigen route tires. The Diablo Strada became particularly on the requirements of modern route sport motorcycles as for instance the Honda VFR, which develops Ducati ST4 or the Suzuki sports association 1000. Its strong carcass on basis of zero-degree steel belt technology patented by Pirellis possesses constant absorption characteristics with all loading conditions. Thus the Diablo Strada offers a very stable, safe handling also with partner and luggage, without having to make reductions with its sporty character. For this also with the help of the computer-assisted "ideal Contour Shaping" technology (ICS) very the outlines of front and rear tires, co-ordinated well one on the other, make an important contribution. The road-contact areas of both tires educate a "perfect team" in all inclinations and load conditions. Just as well also the profile Designs Diablo of the Strada harmonieren at front and rear wheel. In inclination the optimized profile secures Diablo of the Strada a very good water drainage at the front wheel and within the flank ranges of the rear wheel. With travelling straight ahead against it the rear wheel is running in the trace driven from the front tire "drying". For this reason the profile portion in the center of the rear tire could be reduced, without having to accept reductions during the wet adhesion. With this constructional trick a large plus is obtained at the life span. A crucial factor for a route sport tire is a constant Gripniveau over a far temperature range. For this provides considerably particularly for the Diablo the Strada developed "HGHM" (High Grip High Mileage) rubber mixture. With a high Silica portion it offers maximum adhesion in the dry one as in the wet one and connects this with a first-class run achievement, which is with the Diablo Strada because of the point of the current sport Touring tires. With this full mixture at tire High Tech the new Diablo Strada is a tire for all drivers, who want to use the sporty qualities of their motorcycles at any time. Whether with the Kurztrip over the weekend or with the long vacation route with full loading: The Diablo Strada gets the maximum at driving fun from each machine! Starting from December 2004 the new Pirelli Diablo Strada is first in seven dimensions in 17 and 18 tariff available.   Steve_mackay Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 08:05 am:        I knew I've seen those pirellis somewhere else. They are almost identical tread to the Metzler Z6s. Which isn't surprising since Pirelli and Metzler MC tires are made side by side. http://www.reifenservice.at/Metzler_Roadtec_Z6.JPG   99x1 Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 12:48 pm:        I think the suggestion of a "typical" price column to the above chart would be a good idea. I picked up a pair of Bridgestone BT014 for $321 CDN today, while both Michelin Pilot Power and Dunlop D208 seem to be about $100 more for the pair. Metzler, Pirelli, and Avon seem expensive and difficult to find in Canada. Are the tires performance, or tread life worth the difference? (Message edited by 99X1 on February 10, 2005)   Sleez Posted on Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 02:20 pm:        ethanr, updated previous post, thanks for all you're doing   Ethanr Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 01:26 am:        99x1, I put a "cost" column in my database, but so far most of the comments have been performance/mileage without reference to cost...it'd be an almost empty column. As that changes I'll start exporting the cost column. Give me a review of those BTs once you've had 'em long enough to know how you like 'em!   Ethanr Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 01:33 am:        Sleez, one more request...you list 2 Buells in your profile. Can you break the tires down by which bike they were mounted on?   Sleez Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:56 am:        Ethanr; so far all my tire experience is on the S3, I am getting ready to put the D208s on the S1W soon.(just got it a couple months ago)   Lornce Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:56 am:        Bridgestone BT-020 Battlax 10k km (6k miles)- so far. '95 S2 For a reasonably long lasting tire they provide good grip and excellent feedback. No surprises at the limit, just linear, predictable and controllable drift. At 6k miles the rear appears a little over half worn with no sign remaining of the shallower sipes on the edges. The front appears fine with no centre block cupping (as I've seen on other - heavier - bikes running the tire) but shows an understandable degree of feathering on the tread block's outer edges. Dunlop 208 GP (DOT race tires) 4k miles (really) '96 S1 For track days, there's little to compare the 208 GP's with street 208's. 208 GP's stick like glue, allowing corner entry speeds that'd wash out a street 208 in an instant. On the street a gentle throttle hand can actually nurse these gumballs to 4k miles, though it looks pretty much like a slick all the way to the edge. In a perfect world,(ie: tire sponsored) probably should have changed it 1k miles ago. The front looks like it could easily last through another rear.   99x1 Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 05:01 pm:        "I put a "cost" column in my database," After looking at USA prices, I realized the wide difference in tire prices for different brands seen in Canada - doesn't seem to be so in the US. Thanks for all the work on the table!   57sporty Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 07:21 pm:        I have a NEW set of dunlop DZR 208 1 180x55x17 1 120x70x17 First $215.00 plus shipping takes them. Steve   Robr Posted on Saturday, February 12, 2005 - 09:28 am:        Anybody have any any recommendations and/or positive experiences with any of the aftermarket tire warehouses? I am looking to purchase tires for my Sporty and remember the lousy service some of us had with Chaparral. Rob   Sleez Posted on Friday, February 18, 2005 - 04:38 pm:        Robr, i just bought a set from americanmototire.com, great price and delivery. don't know if they offer pick up service or not, check out the website, or give them a call.   S3thunder Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 01:53 pm:        Rob, Look up dtmaonline.com This is Discount Motorcycle Tire and accessories. They have the best prices I have found online and their service is the best. They ship quickly and Airborne Express gets it to me so fast it is amazing. I have bought two sets of tires and a third rear from them with all good experiences and the DOT numbers are all recent too...that's important to me. Good Luck   Kdkerr2 Posted on Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 06:31 pm:        Discount Motorcycle Tire & Accessories entire warehouse was attached by a creditor and confiscated. There is a Police notice to this effect on their website. KK   Toomanytoys Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 01:29 pm:        I'm sure many of you guys have checked these sites already, but I was doing a little research for myself, and figured I would share with you. Tire Comparison Tires.xls (17.9 k) hope this helps someone.   Gowindward Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 09:25 pm:        Just as a data point. I got 3300 miles out of my Michelin Pilot Power rear tire. I switch both rear and front to Pilot Road's. I got 2100 miles out of the OE rear. Bike is an XB12R. I was happy with the Pilot Powers except I want more mileage out of the rear tire.   Ethanr Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 12:58 am:        Latest table update. Tires by Brand by_brand.html (21.2 k)   Rick_a Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 12:56 pm:        I've been running the Skorpion Syncs. I almost wish I stayed with the Diablo Corsas. There's less grip in the dry...though side grip is still pretty good...probably due more to the profile than the compound. Grip in the wet is pretty good, but when these tires let loose in the wet, they let loose big, where as the Corsas were actually more manageable despite having less channeling grooves. They do work quite well over crap surfaces which is probably their best attribute. That leaves mileage...and it'll be a while before I know that. Steering is very neutral and predictable. The Corsas seemed to fall in at higher lean angles. It's a tough call between the two. The Skorpions are still way above any comparable Dunlop, IMO.   Ethanr Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 02:21 am:        Latest update. 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