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Beanbiken
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

just wondering if its possible to add a kickstarter to a 2000 S3T? Battery just died durring piaa light hook up and now im stranded so i think a kick start would be darn usefull. thanks in advance everybody.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Friday, September 01, 2006 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The H-D engines that had kickstarters were all ones with the transmission in a case separate from the crankcase. The kickstart mechanism was on the right side and built into a larger and different cover on the right end of the transmission. The drive belt or chain is on the left side on these engines.

That is all radically different than the XL motors in the Buells, with the transmission and engine sharing the same case and the drive belts/chains on the right side.

A helper or two and push starting is an option but I don't know how well it works on Buells if they have a dead battery.

Jack
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Beanbiken
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 05:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thats too bad. I like the idea of a kickstart as long as it starts first try anyway. i took my battery down to harley to have it tested and charged i have a odyssey pc535 and i tryed to charge it but i think my charger was broken or not putting off enough juice to do the job. im kind of clueless about charging this battery. Do you know a good charger to get for this type of battery?
as for push starting i tryed it a couple of times but my dirt driveway doesnt get enough traction so i just slide (1st and 2nd gear)
Thanks again
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Steveford
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 07:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Harley sells a really good trickle charger which is a plug in and forget it deal.
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Jackbequick
Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is a 22 Amp/hour battery if I remember the specs so you don't want to use more than 5 Amps or so for a quick charge rate and that for only an hour or two. Charging at a lower rate for longer is best for the battery.

A better idea is to get one of those 1.5A +/- smart trickle chargers/battery conditioners at Wal-Mart ($10-12$?) and leave that on overnight of for a day or so. Those can be left on the battery for days without any danger to the battery. And they are great for keeping a battery alive in the winter.

If you have a service manual the info in there on charge rates and testing the battery and electrical components is pretty good for someone that is new to it.

In the long run, once you have a cheap VOM and a little understanding of the mysteries it saves you a lot of time and money that would otherwise go to a dealer.

Jack
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Sloppy
Posted on Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Get a Battery Tender Plus -- available online or at your local motorcycle shop. About $50. It has the ability to recover "dead" batteries and will safely charge all maners of batteries (AGM, lead / acid, etc.). It uses a staged charging system to properly charge your batteries.

Use it monthly for all of your batteries in your vehicles to keep them maintained at 100%.
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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would like a kicker too, just for the macho-ness of it. Don't know if I would ever actually use it.

I loved my former bike, SR500 single, I let anybody who could start it, ride it. (Total: 0 heh heh! )
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Jackbequick
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had an XT500, one of the best looking yammer hammers ever made.

It had a clear insert in one of the cam covers. If you brought a white marker up into view the piston got a good running start on the compression stroke. As long as you used that it as a piece of cake to start.

I bought the bike cheap from a guy that never figured that out.

Jack
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Steveford
Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

After my Norton Atlas tried to blow my foot off, I tend to avoid kick starting things with big pistons...
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