| Author | Message | ||
     Ccryder |
Jason: If your isolator is torn and you don't need to ride, then don't ride it. I replaced the isolators on my X-1 on Saturday and it is not too bad of a job. S-1, S-3/ M-2 will be a little more work but not too bad. TIme4Work Neil S. | ||
| Henrik |
According to Anony R, the '01 isolators will *not* fit the S2 models. Henrik | ||
| Jasons1 |
Hey guys, just wanted to give you all an update. After reading the link above that discusses the isolator issues, I called BMC to see if my '96 S1 would be covered by their service bulletin, and guess what.....it was! So BMC has agreed to replace my isolators for me at no cost! Couldn't be happier! I was dreading tearing into that job myself, as I don't really have either the tools or expertise to handle something like that. Anyway, just wanted to let you all know how it worked out. Ride safe. | ||
| Blake |
That's good news. However, it seems the folks at Buell Customer Care, have differing opinions on applicability of "Good Willing" upgrades of failed isolators. If y'all know or can find out who the BCC representative was that handled your failed isolator case, please let me know via email. I am actually very suspicious that some dealerships are not even calling Buell and are just saying that the work has not been approved. Any comments? Neil? Thanks | ||
| Ccryder |
Yeah well..... That kinda perked up my interest when JasonS1 got his covered/ "Good Willed" or what  . Hey if they have closed the SB then that's cool with me. If they have not, or my Dealer had not called then it might be a classic Red Star phenomenom. My Dealer has consistantly been above and beyond the call of duty. There may be a dissconnect between the "SPOC" the Dealers communicate with and BMC. Anyway, Stripe'r has new isolators and Neil is much further UP the learning curve and more in touch with his Buell side  . Time4WOrk Neil S. | ||
| Jasons1 |
My local dealer (SouthEast Harley/Buell in Cleveland, OH) first told me that when I had the swingarm replaced (under recall), that I had recieved my free replacment isolators (per the service bulletin) and that I would have to pay for this set (the 4th pair of isolators going into my '96 S1 with 31,000 miles). The tech was CONVINCED that I would have to pay for them. I re-read the attached article above concerning the service bulletin, and then called John Salinsky at Buell Customer Service (414-343-8400...is it bad that I have that memorized??) and talked with him about it. He confirmed that Buell would replace them, per the service bulletin, and said to have the tech at SouthEast call him to confirm. I stopped by the dealership, explained the situation to the Tech, and got a call from him the next day saying that he'd take care of it for me. I don't know what the conversation that the Tech had with John entailed, but it seemed to have work. Now, I'm gonna ask a favor from you guys. PLEASE DON'T CALL BUELL AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS UNTIL I HAVE MY NEW ISOLATORS INSTALLED. I'd hate to have them change their minds on me, and stick me with a $400 repair bill, when I would have attempted the job myself. I don't wanna get screwed for helping out and sharing what I learned. Thanks again for the advice guys. Ride Safe! | ||
| Ccryder |
Jasons1: Hey I'll be the last to spoil anything that you can get for free.  Buell has treated me fairly over the past years so I can't complain. They do perplex me at times, with their (IMHO)inconsistant treatment of Owners and implementation of policies. Note....I did not say unfair, but just, IMHO, inconsistant. Anyway Erik and Company have built some FINE motorsickels and I plan on putting many, many more miles on Stripe'r starting this weekend. And with the miles comes the smiles. RIde more, Lean More, Grin More. Neil S. | ||
| Josh |
Anyone know the adjustment #s for the belt on the 2001 S3s? 1.5" deflectin at midpoint of lower w/ 10lbs? Just adjusted my rear shock and found WAY too much preload. Thanks, Josh | ||
| Blake |
Josh, The specs say 1.5-1.75". I prefer the 1.75". What was the rear sag before you adjusted it? Just checking, cause I'm REAL surprised it was less than the specified range. Just about all the factory/dealer setups I've seen are the opposite. Too little preload. Did you notice that your steering got a bit heavier after backing off the preload? | ||
| Josh |
Haven't been on it yet. I've got a 2001 shock that was set to 14.5" w/ and w/o weight on it (I'm 150). Now, after backing off about 3/8" of thread, it's 14.75" without weight and 15.1" w/ me on it. The belt deflection is no more than 1.25" but I don't have a rear lift so that will have to do for the weekend. I assumed they adjusted it right when they installed it and never checked. It had almost an inch more thread showing than the replaced 99 I had on there and it rode alot better with the new one. Thanks, Josh 99 S3T | ||
| Buellistic |
ATT: Josh Lets get this belt adjustment in perspective under the "KISS" program.... Do not need a belt gauge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Put you BUELL on car body stands(one under each foot peg). Use this method with my BUELL(you must be careful)!!!!!!! Place a small hydraulic jack under the rear of the swingarm at the wheel/belt adusting nut. Remove the bolt from the swingarm/shock... Raise the swing arm with the jack until the center of the axle in level with the center of the counter shaft. Tighten the wheel nuts until the BELT is snug(very little up and down play). Lower the swingarm,put in the shock bolt,tighen every thing. Your BELT will now be ajusted no matter how much weight you put on the seat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In buelling BUELLISTIC and/or Hardley-Harley | ||
| Dave |
Josh ... I have front and rear Bulldog stands. Stop by anytime. DAve | ||
| Two_Buells |
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| Rick_A |
Jasons1...my dealer told me the exact same thing about the isolators. Where do they get this misinformation? Or is there an anti-goodwill conspiracy going on here?? Is the paperwork that difficult to write up??? The guy I talked to was making it seem like I'd be better off paying them to do it. I know I could easily tackle it myself...and I don't know if I want to let them touch her. Might just be worth the $40 to buy 'em and do it my damn self. | ||
| Josh |
Blake, After riding it all weekend (well, actually after the first test ride) I noticed it wasn't so damn twitchy which was what first started me looking at it. I more than doubled the amout of thread showing and with me and 60lbs of gear it sat at 15 3/8". Belt still needs adjusting but it's not that bad. Hey DAve how bout I come over and we do both? Mariabelen wants to see the drugstore in Lebannon that was written up in the Post. Josh | ||
| Bomber |
Two . . . . other than knowing your very cool table isn't for an M2 . . . . . .what's it for? also, what's the number under REAR Preload refer to? thanks | ||
| Awprior |
Bomber, That chart is for the XB9R, and appeared in the most recent Battle2Win, which was the first one I'd picked up. I think I may have to order all of the back issues unless someone would want to get rid of them, in that case you're nuts. I don't have the mag in front of me, so I can't tell you what the rear preload is. Alex | ||
| Bomber |
AW . . thanks . . .I appreciate the backup . . . I shoulda known what it was, just having re-re-read the BTwin issue in question . . . .. another heat-soak-related golden moment . . . . | ||
| X1glider |
Just picked up a race stand for the X1. Who knows the best place to install the buttons? Just drill and tap the swing arm? I wasn't sure if it is solid or hollow. | ||
| Totway |
Good question, I'm made some aluminum buttons myself and plan on drilling and tapping about 1" forward of the chain adjuster cutout. I don't think the solid swingarm will sacrifice any strength at all. | ||
| X1glider |
Ok, so now i know it's solid. I guess the issue now is where the best location is. Obviouly, tire/stand clearance needs to be considered but what about what's most stable for the bike. Would it be an inch forward of the chain adjuster cutout? Huh? Tim? You have a chain?  | ||
| Hootowl |
The swingarms on the 99-2002 bikes are hollow. | ||
| Totway |
No, I don't have a chain ..oooppss. I was not aware the swingarms were hollow does anybody know the casting thickness? | ||
| Hootowl |
I don't. I doubt it's the same throughout the entire piece anyway. That was one of the engineering marvels on the 99+ models. It's strong where it needs to be, and light where it can be. The holes in the inside of the sides (make sense?) are about 1/2" across and the thickness there appears to be about 1/4" to 5/16". It probably gets thicker the closer you get to the pivot point. Those holes are roughly 4" forward of the axle area on the inside of the arc. | ||
| Jester |
Hello, I am not sure if I have the early or late model Showa shock set-up, there are some numbers on the side K0430.9 and G9222-20. I would like to know the procedure for adjustment. I tried to look up Showa or a distributor to see about getting some literature to no avail. I am with all gear on approximately 185 lbs, if that helps. Thanks, Jester | ||
| Jester |
Bike is a 96 S2T. | ||
| Dave |
Sure Josh c'mon over! If you're talkin' about the new place "Dr Jazz" .... I just happen to know a 15 yr old that works there too!! DAve | ||
| Blake |
Jester, Preload according to your owner's manual will get you close. | ||
| Smadd |
I have a 1998 S3T. It has the upside down Showa cartridge forks. Traxxion Dynamics "tuned" the forks a couple of years ago (springs, RaceTech cartridges, synth oil, etc.) When I changed out my steering bearings today, I thought it was time to change the fork oil. The service manual recommends moving the damper up and down through several strokes to bleed out any air. The right (compression)side rod had a long, easy stroke, moving very freely. The left (rebound) side had a very stiff stroke. I had to really pull on it to get it to move up. Is this common, or might it indicate a problem with the left fork? The bike is back together, but I haven't ridden it yet. Any ideas, or should I forget about it and go riding? THanx.. Steve | ||
| Smadd |
FYI... Answered my own question. I discussed the above with Traxxion Dynamics. They told me as long as the rod (rebound side)falls down readily when released (it does), yet it's hard to pull up, all is well. If it wasn't hard to pull up on that fork, *then* there would be a problem. Got it all buttoned up today. Bearings adjusted, new tires, serviced forks, then rode. I forgot how good this bike handles! |
