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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MISATO
Right on buddy Thats the point I`m trying to make and Your LUCkly thats all that happened BUT on a CG IT wd. or COULD be so easy TO hand the bike up on that same pothole OR IF you were cornering as well.... DOWN you probally wd. go...
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

MI where do you LIVE i`m moving there NOWWWWWWWWWWWW NO POTHOLES COOL
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Don't hit the HOLE!




Take note, this is the only time a male will be given this piece of advice.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AND RavenSMITH22 what you really posted about weight really don`t matter IF you got ur settings adjusted for your weight 2" less clearance is 2" less clearance PERIOD
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 I guess we are all NOT as GOOD Drivers as you PErhaps we can come to your PLACE and you can show the WORLD how not to hit potholes in the day and NIGHT..! Give me a BREAK...........
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ANyone else whos sitting back and just reading want to JOIN this THREAD JUMP in by all means.. Shred your LIGHT how the CG is as GOOD or BETTER than the reg. models for road conditions, HAndling ETC>ETC><ETC> I`m Waitingggggg
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you're driving responsibly it doesn't MATTER if it's day or night. Ever heard the phrase, 'overdriving your headlights'? I've ridden 25K miles in Michigan, day and night, spring, summer, fall, and winter, and never hit a pothole that was worth the effort of avoiding.

Oh, and sorry to disappoint you, but:


quote:

Ground Clearance
XB12S 4.35 in. (90 mm)
XB12Scg 3.55 in. (90 mm)




It's 0.8", not "like close to 2 inches"

(Message edited by darthane on September 09, 2004)
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's easy... Don't drive faster than the conditions allow. If you are going too fast at night to be able to see potholes... SLOW DOWN. I ride with two buddies that run rigid choppers. Both with about 2" of clearance total. I'll shed no tears for people who complain about potholes and DO have suspension...

If you don't know the road, ride slow enough that you can avoid potholes.

I was heading down Hwy 78 is southern California a couple weeks ago. I was doing about 100MPH and ALL OF A SUDDEN I see that about 1/2 my lane is missing and is a HUGE sink hole. I didn't die. I wenst around it. Why? Because when I made the decision to go 100 miles an hour I took into account the fact that I still needed to see what was ahead of me and I could. I wouldn't have been going that fast in adverse conditions and I make a point of slowing when I can't see the road ahead. There's no reason at all to hit potholes. Even if there's a big assed vehicle in front of you... Back off a little and maintain speed... there are no excuses.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"ANyone else whos sitting back and just reading want to JOIN this THREAD JUMP in by all means.. "

Just as I suspected... He's trolling : ). Not that I mind that...
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 Do you know what is meant by over driving your headlights at NIGHT..and I really do find that hard to believe u at 100mph etc. BUT then again I`m coming for some Driving leasons from you on POTHOLES so OR BEcause you are the MAN....! NOW lets get bcak to the Disadavantages of the CG12 ERIC was smoking something that day or his so called enginers were..!
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I`m not trolling I`m making a POINT PERIOD . p e r i o d .
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

His name is Erik.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Do you know what is meant by over driving your headlights at NIGHT"

Yes, on a 12R it means stay under about 45 if you don't know the road...
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LISTEN ...it gets down to this ..Now hope your all awake ..smell the coffee...SAME RIDERS, SAME ROAD, SAME POTHOLE, ONE RIDER just nicks the bottom of his can (exhaust) ...THE other rider HITS IT HARD NOW DO THE MATH he goes down in the corn fields... CAN YOU see this or are you smoking some of that stuff Eric has???
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ERIC... ERIK its all the Same and I see you do know what it means M1
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How precisely was the same rider on the same bike on the same road hitting the same pothole able to both 'nick' the can and roll off into the corn fields?

All things are NOT created equal here.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quote:Ground Clearance
XB12S
XB12Scg 4.35 in. (90 mm)
3.55 in. (90 mm)

It's 0.8", not "like close to 2 inches"


Hahah I wd. check that if I was YOU don`t care what the book says if thats where you got that from??
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

DARTHANE I`ll answer that only AFTER you have that MUG of coffee...
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Henrik
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

M1 has a very good point; don't out ride your line of sight ...

What I don't understand is how this affects Chris enough that he feels the need to jump up and start screaming and cursing about it.

And no offense here Chris, but I trust the engineers, who designed this more than you on this topic.

Will a bike that is 1" lower (static ride height) hit a bump/rock/log/deep pothole a hair sooner than a 1" taller bike. Sure. Does it matter in real life. Not a bit. Lots of riders do just fine on slammed cruisers with a lot less ground clearance : D

Keep in mind that the 2 inches you keep mentioning is a combination of a 1" lower seat (shouldn't affect handling or ground clearance; )) and 1" lower suspension - which btw. will bottom out at the exact same height as the standard XBs.

As far as actual, real world handling proficiency, I seriously doubt the difference in static ride height matters.

Henrik

(oh, and the PC term I believe, is "little people" : ))
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

One bit of advise Hogs, don't ride the low bikes.
Also, don't buy one.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Henrik,
Thanks for joining now,YEs all should know about over driving your headlights ..part of getting licensed for the rd. I wd. hope...IF your thinking I`m screaming then You havn`t heard anything yet.... Come on are you saying this bike will handle better than a normal s model???? Seat height I wasn`t even going there ..Talking about under neath the exhaust PERIOD and yes it does matter in real life thats where you are WRONG and everybody else that can`t see that REally did you have your coffee Henrik???
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Seriously...what crawled up your ? You don't have a CG or a low and no one is twisting your arm to buy one. The fact that I was ignorant to the fact that I had purchased a low model was because of the dealer. One,I had a HD salesman that knew nothing about the bike. (still bought it despite him) Two, they only had ONE XB9S on the floor at the time I purchased so I had nothing to compare it with. And three, I was under the ether of purchasing my first sportbike! I did figure it out when I received my title, saw the yellow spring as opposed to blue, and saw my more sculpted seat. Did I get pissed? Well yes and no. Yes 'cuz of my salesman but no 'cuz I love the bike and it fits me well.

I'll concede that pothole and speedbumps will be a bad thing for my exhaust can since it is lower (I've hit both and have the dings to prove it) but to say that it can't compare to the standards in the twisty stuff is wrong. I have no problems keeping up with my riding partners. Damn, I MUST be a helluva rider then....nah, it must be that all my friends are SLOW!
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch IF one says here that the 12CG Handles the road as good or BETTER due to the same rd. conditions (ROUGH)...then that person HAs no ideal what they are talking about . PERIOD and if you guys can`t see that or accept it for what it is then perhaps you better ask someone why ?? I can``t explain it anymore sorry ....
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tucsonxb9s Buddy I can see I hit you where it hurts Sorry buddy just making a POINT...and it can compare to the standards in the twisties or anywhere else for that matter EXCEPT if one hits the wrong road conditions then THE standard model all things being = EQUALL will have a better chance of "NOT" going DOWN thats all ..PERIOD Jsut a point I`m trying to make here thats all WOW can you not all SEE THAT REALLY come on..!!!
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Lpowel02
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ANyone else whos sitting back and just reading want to JOIN this THREAD JUMP in by all means..

ok...

dude...are you ON your PERIOD??

I'm with M1's thinking...ride smarter and learn to avoid obstacles...

so a CG may bottom out in a 2 or 3 inch pothole...don't hit it...if I go through a 3 or 4 inch pothole and my can hits, does that mean my 9R is poorly designed?? No, it means I should have avoided the freakin pothole...
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW is this a record for the number of posts in the shortest amount of time ...I sure hit on a delicate matter here ..U guys all riding low models >:-)))
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Lpowel02 and your point IS?????
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dude, you seriously need to get laid. Or maybe you just need to quit sniffing so much coffee.

The reason you're getting so many posts within your thread is that the regulars on this board take great delight in making the foolish look like idiots.

Kudos Blake, Glitch, Henrik, Darthane, and the others who do such a great job at it!

Very entertaining...

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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

BEsides POTHOLES guys and gals I know your here as well I can tell... there are them damn SPEEDBUMPS on rds. shopping malls, they are like everywhere... rd. construction the list goes on.. its just that MAN they are too damn LOW under the CAN..OH DAGO I see I`m under attacked here is that it??? I`m talking the disadvantages of the Cg over the Standard S model So I get under attacked Hmmm I See. Oh Okay
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Cj_xb
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the only advantage for a low model is for MIDGETS that can`t touch the ground SORRY.!!!!

WTF, I'm a 5'4" girl and no midget !! I like the lows !!

You have entertained us all though !!
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