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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don`t care who or what says WHAT...BUT a CG model or a L model IS worst for handling and be sure to WATCH out for POTHOLES or SPEED bumps because if not your going DOWNNNNNNNNNNnnn PERIOD.. and you can say what ya want about suspension travel the only advantage for a low model is for MIDGETS that can`t touch the ground SORRY.!!!!
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AND thats the same for any LOW model in the xb series PERIOD...........
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Tucsonxb9s
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow...I must be a helluva rider then. I 've been riding my XB9S-Low ( NO SLOW jokes from the peanut gallery please ) for over a year and haven't laid it down yet! (KNOCKS on wood shaped like head) Other than the fact that the only reason I found I had a low model was after I received my title ( the dealer didn't know or FORGOT to tell me ) I've had no issues whatsoever with it. I'm not a tall man at 5'-10" but I'm surely no midget. Quite frankly I don't understand all the hostility.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Hostility BUddy its that they JUST don`t and can`T HANDLE THE TWISTIES LIKE THE REG. MODELS AND i GUESS U ARE JUST NOT TAKING IT DOWN TO WHERE ONE COULD...period its PLAIN TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN`T SO YOU DON`T GET IT PERIOD ..PUT EM BOTH SIDE BY SIDE AND HAVE A LOOK SOMEDAY..
Sorry about the caps btw...:-)
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You have close to 2" of clearance LESS under your can than a reg. model etc.. Guess you have no POTholes where you are from..:-)
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

BUT maybe the XB9S-low is not the same as the 12CG if not then I stand corrected
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man, who in your cereal this morning?
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wake up and smell the coffee if ya can`t see it...!Like I said the only reason for the 12CG has to be for MIDGETS.. I rest my case
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Buddy hit a LIttle 3" pothole and see what can Happened Here In CAnada we have 3" 4" potholes No plms.. So try one next time A 4 " pothole and a 3" will put ya down hang the bottom can and away u go in the field
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, sorry to sound so crass, but don't go riding through 3"-4" potholes. I avoid them in Michigan, you can avoid them in Canada. Even my truck doesn't take well to big holes, and it weighs over ten times what the bike does, has larger wheels/tires in every dimension, and has four of them to boot. No bike will be happy if you hit a pothole that deep at any notable speed.
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Lets say your cornering down low and hit a 2" hole Same deal buddy I guess u never hit one so I hope u never Do I have hit many ,many And some alot deeper than 3" Buddy of mine just went down Hit a pothole filled with water didn`t know it was deep like it was And no it wasn`t a Cg BUT MAN the clearance is too low on one of them PERIOD
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Joojoo
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Your wrong. Not right. Incorrect.

I put the low suspension on my 12, to improve handling, and launch speed by low centre or gravity. It worked very well. Ive taken the regular and the low 12 through bitch turns. Low = more stable. Low = faster on the launch. Plus, I touch the ground on the low, and on the regular. As well, my buddy is a midget, and feels the same way. Plus, he would still smoke you through the turns on your 12, while he's on a regular or a low 9 or 12.

What I think this is really about, is a problem that you may have with midgets....Did a midget hurt you? Smoke you through a turn? Destroy you on a launch? Beat you to a chick?

Whats up Homie?

Jack


Jack
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In your Dreams JooJoo ...!!!
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ON the Quarter mile strip IS the only place AND ONLY place where it wd. be better PERIOD
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Flick
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This hogs fellow sure rings some bells...sounds like our old friend 420...
Attitude...in CANADA yet!
Strange world, aint it?!?!
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you guys all that Blind that you can``t see Under the front exhaust can You have like close to 2" of clearance LESS As well as cornering you also have less clearance MAn I don`t believe you guys... GO DRAG racing with it yeah thats about it........... PERIOD
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NO 420 here I know who you are speaking of though.. You guys must all be pissed that you bought LOWS GEee one guy didn`t even know he bought it until later after getting his title and yes the dealer won`t tell ya because they can`t sell them here in Canada at least on the EAST coast...
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Odie
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Darthane, I can relate with you on the potholes. I grew up in Owosso, inbetween Flint and Lansing. Roads suck!!
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Dago
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hogs,

I think you should go back and read not only what you said, but how you said it. You are coming across like a total jacka$$.

PERIOD

This board is filled with highly intelligent and polite people. So take it easy.

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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay I take back what I said about MIDGETS I just meant it must be design for ppl. UNDer say around 5'5'' or there abouts who knows... SO sorry if I have offened you MIDGETS..
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hmmm Dago perhaps your not one then..IF you can`t see the difference either..PERIOD
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

First - Maybe you should have added (confrontational) to the title... : )

Second - Maybe you should be bitching about potholes as opposed to a motorcycle? It seems to me that throughout history, the slow drivers always complain about their inferior equipment.

Low CG is a good thing. Pot holes are a bad thing...
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can see the difference.
but GD, put the gun away
oh wait, I forgot your from canadia you don't have any guns.
still, you dont have to be an @$$ about it.

geez
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

M1 LOW CG= CRAP as same as the LOW models IF they have the same clearance plms. as the 12 CG And as far as POTHOLES go I sure wd. not want to hit a 2" to say the least ON a CG or a LOW model if they are the same clearance under the can as the CG`s...AS if the pothole is 2" You will differntly hit the CAN and Probally go DOWNNNN NOW you tell me whats the advantage in THAT????
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Misato THEN you guys WAKE up and smell the damn COFFEE A 12CG is NOT as good as handling around corners or on the straights IF one comes into contact with same size hole,etc.etc
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was coming back from canada 2 weeks ago, stopped up on the pass to take some pics, ~15mph and WHAMMMOOOOO. foot came off a peg, handlebar smacking back. didn't see a hug pot hole. I stoped because it felt so hard I thought I bent a rim. it was all fine but sure, If I was on the cg I'd have a nice dent in the can. its not hard to understand that.
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Ravensmith22
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One thing that you may be neglecting to consider is that shorter people(midgets) tend to weigh less than giants such as yourself. Less weight means less suspension compression. So perhaps we midgets don't need as much clearance because we don't weigh a ton, like giants do.

(Message edited by ravensmith22 on September 09, 2004)
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Stealthxb
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

issues?
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Misato
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

lol,
thats funny.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 03:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't hit the HOLE! In 9000 miles on my 12R I have hit exactly ONE hole... I saw it ahead of time and AIMED for it about mid corner just to see what would happen. If your friend can't ride that's his fault. Maybe he should get a car? ANY pot hole that's big enough to cause a problem can be avoided (unless maybe he was moving too fast for the street???). Heck, I've avoided CARS with 20' of notice at 45 MPH. A big white lincoln that popped out from in front of a big white van taking a left in front of me no less... What's YOUR problem?
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