| Author | Message | ||
     Im_joedirt |
This may be an old question but can i run my 04 XB12s with custom headers?No muffler... If not, why? | ||
| No_rice |
you technically can if you get the fuel mixture right. main reason not to do it... it will be a gutless wonder. among many other reasons | ||
| Andymnelson |
Because you will break off header studs, probably crack the header, your bike will perform like a pile of dog doodoo, and you'll scare women and small children....wait, that might be a reason TO DO IT!  | ||
| Froggy |
Well if he is running a custom header, he would be making custom supports, so assuming its done correctly the header studs won't be an issue. But yea, it will be loud, gutless, run like crap till tuned, and then just make you look like a FAG. | ||
| Forerunner |
If you haven' already, you may want to hear what she sounds like w/just the stock headers without the muffler. Although a tuned header can sound different, this can give you an idea of the noise levels you'll need to live with. I ran in this fashion for several weeks. My take: It was like intercourse with a skunk, fun for awhile but not interested in doing it again. YMMV, Nels | ||
| Jramsey |
>>It was like intercourse with a skunk,fun for a while.... Dude you need to explain that!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Im_joedirt |
Ok ok. Im just curious to know why it would run like crap if its tuned correctly. Its only for my weekend bike so noise is kinda what im doing it for. (Message edited by Im_joedirt on July 21, 2010) | ||
| Ourdee |
Froggy, He wont look like a fag, but, he will sound like one. Unless there is no one to hear him. He won't be hearing it for long. If tuned for the headers it will not be running too lean. The lack of back pressure will kill off the torque you could be making. If your not running it over 7000 rpm why would you need that kind of flow? If my neighbor was running straight headers on the weekend, I'd have more than a little to say about it. If you live out where you are the only one effected by the noise, do what you want. | ||
| Im_joedirt |
gee, didnt know it was such as soft spot for you old farts. I was only asking for some info and i get your personal abuse. Time to get your teeth back in the jar gentlemen. | ||
| Froggy |
I am 24, how does that count as an old fart? You got plenty of advice, no personal abuse. | ||
| Im_joedirt |
Sorry, but didnt you both refer to me as a FAG..... (Message edited by Im_joedirt on July 22, 2010) | ||
| Ourdee |
Clayton, Watch South Park Season 13, The F Word episode. So you know what us old Fs are saying. :http://www.southparkstudios.com/search/?search=f+w ord&x=37&y=13 | ||
| Forerunner |
My understanding is that improperly sized diameter/length exhaust tubing to promote scavenging is the cause of loss of torque, not lack of backpressure. YMMV, Nels | ||
| 1324 |
I believe this link/video says it correctly: http://my.sportbikeclub.com/_Intermoto-Communicati on/blog/2478222/46089.html | ||
| Andymnelson |
Some find that term funny....I do not. I think it makes those that use it look far worse than the ones who they use it about. I would love to see this community of riders rise above such things. | ||
| Ourdee |
The following was lifted out of the article pointed out by 1324, "Being Noisy Some of us try to rev our motors or install loud pipes on our bikes because we think it makes other drivers more aware of us. However, the throbbing decibels pounding through motorists ears only serves to really annoy them and make them more aggressive toward riders. It’s one thing to joyously over-rev at a bike night, another to rev W.F.O. while in neutral at a stop light, especially around other riders who don’t have the sound-proof walls to protect them from your cacophonous howling. Just consider this rule. If it’s enough to make your own ears sore without ear plugs, then tone down the roar." Andrew, It was not my intent to personally offend you. I get very aggravated by open pipes that are used solely to make noise. I find that using the word (meaning a bundle of sticks) to vent that frustration and make light of the situation to have consequences far more desirable than going out in the middle of the night and remedying the cause of the irritation. I'm sure you would agree had you ever saw me solve such a situation. The use of a word (so far) in the states has been a protected right. Some special interest groups have tried to claim sole ownership and right to use some words. I will always refuse their control over the freedom of speech. I don't try to be politically correct. I try not to initiate a situation for the sole purpose of making others feel uncomfortable. I will stop using the word when my connotation of it no longer describes the act being perpetrated. Thank you, R.D. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Its the classic problem of South Park... No matter how wrong it is, it's almost always really really funny... which means, deep down, you know there is a gem of truth somewhere. Every time I try and be offended by South Park, I'm too busy laughing, even when they are making fun of a demographic I am a part of (which is most of the time actually). | ||
| Crackhead |
When I was out to eat we had a little old lady that was a dead ringer for Ma on the Goldengirls as the waitress and we were sitting at an outside table. There was a 2 hog riders doing the usual straight pipe thing. When they finally left the parking lot she said "Finally the F$ Fags left." It was so dam funny that I started chocking on my eggs, 1 of the guys sprayed coffee across the table, and the rest them almost fell out of their chairs. So from now on when I hear Fags, i think of that little old lady and can't help but bust out laughing. I also laugh my ass off when I see a modern EFI muscle car idling like crap bc they ripped out the EFI to "upgrade" to a carb. | ||
| Im_joedirt |
so it wont run that good???? (Message edited by Im_joedirt on July 22, 2010) | ||
| Im_joedirt |
and when i want to know what you think it will look like i will ask. Thanks for the input. (Message edited by Im_joedirt on July 22, 2010) | ||
| 1324 |
thanks for your input, and those of you that were grateful enough to give me your personal opinions next time keep them to yourself. You're welcome. Not sure how things are in Aussieland, but up here we have yahoo's at every corner looking to litigate against something and motorcycling is no different. The act of running with straight pipes is downright ignorant, I'm sorry if you feel otherwise. Just tonight at the weekly bike night, several of these wannabe badasses felt the need to grace us with their presence. There was no way to carry on a civil conversation around these bikes. Same goes for the idiots running down my road at 3AM when I need to wake at 5AM for work. The road isn't a racetrack (many of those have sound limits, btw - and straight pipes won't pass), so please exercise some judicious restraint. Poor representation of this sport negatively affects the rest of us. And to answer your edited post, NO, it won't run good unless you tune for it. Even then, you might not like your new power band. BTW, I'm 28 and wear ear plugs. Do my comments make me an old man? Hopefully one day...at least I'll have my hearing! | ||
| Im_joedirt |
this may be the wrong forum for me. I thought this place was for sharing infomation and on a shared product (BUELL) that we all enjoy. Not passing critical and politically correct judgements on those that dare step out of your boundaries.... | ||
| Froggy |
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| Cycleaddict |
unmuffled v/twin motorcycle exhaust are called "drag pipes" in the USA and are usually found on H.D.(spit ) motorcycles. the average user of "drag pipes" are generally self -absorbed "look at me" motorcycle owners (not to be confused with motorcycle "riders"). | ||
| Ourdee |
http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/study-lin ks-loud-mufflers-penile-1796.shtml Not that I'm implying anything, I just remembered Crusty posting it. Not that I'm saying Crusty was implying anything by posting it. The last line in the article is this,"So the next time you are stopped at a light and the motorcycle next to you starts revving the throttle in a deafening roar remember that he's just compensating for being cheated by a vengeful God with a terrific sense of humor." Not that I am implying that God is making sport of anyone in particular. Remember that if there is no truth in the humor, it is just maliciousness. No maliciousness intended on my part. ,R.D. | ||
| Crackhead |
We are just trying to stop you from being laughed at. | ||
| Fahren |
The question was about straight pipes, not gay pipes. | ||
| Hootowl |
"The question was about straight pipes, not gay pipes." LOL. Almost didn't get that. Clayton, No one here is making fun of you or calling you names. Most folks on this board know each other, and have met in person. There's a good deal of chain yanking and inside jokes being bandied about. This is a great place, with great people. Stick around, and don't immediately assume you're being made fun of if someone tries to be funny. Jeff | ||
| Hootowl |
"This may be an old question but can i run my 04 XB12s with custom headers?No muffler... If not, why?" "and when i want to know what you think it will look like i will ask. Thanks for the input." Dude, you asked for opinions. Because you'll look like an ass is a valid opinion and a reason not to run open pipes. | ||
| Im_joedirt |
If i cared what everyone thought i looked like i would not have bought a BUELL in the first place, im 6'3 and the bike looks like a toy beneath me. i have many bikes all for different occasions. when i ask a question on how a bike would run with straight pipes thats what i want an answer on. not what it will look like and if i would be upsetting other people by having them.... |
