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Johnnyprocket
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.dkf-perf.com/xb9r%2Bs.htm
I never heard of DFK , maybe I'm just ignorant????? Anyways, they have some nice stuff and a crazy velocity stack setup. Anyone............????
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah I know that the stack does nothing????
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Spooky
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Spyder12s
Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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Johnnyprocket
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about the rest of the stuff they sell? are they reputable and trustworthy?
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Court
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 05:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Snake Oil
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Spooky
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 07:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bubba's bike made more power with the stock stack just by cleaning the air filter
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can anyone vouch for these guys?
In a word ... no.
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Spyder12s
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are you guys reading what Paul is asking ?? its not about the stack ...its about DFK Performance they are not they ones who make the stack.
Paul I know that they are a sponsor over on another board you may check there ..pm me for info
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Johnnyprocket
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thanks, didn't know they were a sponsor of another board.
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Smadd
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL... took a while. Interesting. Yes... reading is a fine art.
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Bads1
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The Stack DFK is Brions and Coreys.They are making them and DFK is selling them.Like Court said SNAKE OIL!!!!!
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Spyder12s
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HE was NOT asking about the stack !!! Man you guys....
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Roc
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 02:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnnyp - I have some Storz products on my other Buells and they seem to be of excellent quality.

I am unfamiliar with woodcraft.

My Force pipe on my S1 broke a mount, which seems common, but they fixed it and seem to be very good people. I would need to see some of their carbon fiber before I bought any, refering to their website their seems to be some confusion about the actual material used, "underneath the air scoop is the Force Motor Products fiberglass oil cooler", and the performance claims they make regarding their CF products are not logical. You should probably see American Sport Bike or Buell for CF.
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Lake_bueller
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Spyder...if he's not asking about the stack, then what is this " crazy velocity stack setup

As for the rest of their stuff...I would trust them just based on the bullsh!t velocity stack that they claim is so great. Anyone with a quality reputation wouldn't sell that product.

Just my $.02 worth.
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Daves
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 06:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Johnny,
I do not know the DFK people personally so I can't comment on if they are good or bad.
What are you looking for?
Maybe I or one of the other sponsors here can help you?

Ride to the edge!
Dave
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Easyflier
Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The stack that did nothing was the one that was modelled exactly from the stock XB9 design, all that really proved was that the airflow is good even with the misshapen rubber stack.

I think it remains to be seen if the other one provides some real benefit.

It would have been nice if Brian had tested them on Tilley's dyno, which he didn't, to substantiate the claims.

The way I look at it is this, there are too few performance parts available for the XB to just dismiss new ones out of hand. OTOH I don't have an endless supply of cash to try every $300 part that claims to give a 2-4hp boost. For these reasons I like to have the chance to read/hear about everything available.
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why so negative if you do not have a personal knowledge about DFK?
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Dcmortalcoil
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 02:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ooops, I meant DKF.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dcmortalcoil, I don't think its so much DKF as it is a product they have available and the bad taste said product left.
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have emailed and spoken to Brion several times on stack designs. He seems like an OK guy to me. We don't agree on the approach of how to design these things, but there is no acrimony in our disagreement. Hell, he may be right. His partner Corey, has sent me a few emails that frankly made me, let's say "uncomfortable". I felt that the claims on their website were a bit overstated. That's just my opinion. You should judge for yourself.
Steve
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Custodian
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How some of you guys can write a company off because they sell a stack that YOU yourself made controversial is beyond me.

I find it poor taste that this kind of bigotry is allowed to function here, more so when comments like 'snake oil' are spoken by high ranking Buell 'oficials' directly after the question How about the rest of the stuff they sell? are they reputable and trustworthy? is asked.

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Court
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am not a "high ranking Buell official" but I made one of the "snake oil" comments.

If.....IF...these guys are who I think they are, I would avoid them like the plauge. That's my personal opinion.

If you are inclined to send them money, knock yourself out.

Freedom of choice allows good AND bad decisions.

Court
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

All I said was that I couldn't vouch for them...
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was one of the first to knock their sales techniques & called the Nology wires they also sell snake oil.

Corey has been posting lately on atc & has seemed to mellow quite a bit. Even admitted that he has been as asshole & he used those words.

I still dont think the stack is worth jack shit, but if you have the $$$ to blow then by all means get nutz.
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Hardluckxb
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 07:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The only controversy I see around here is people setting up profiles in an attempt to push their products or to persuade the members of this board. I have noticed 3 different people who have only posted once each.

Roadkill began the velocity stack crap with his fabricated (IMHO) story telling us "This guy I just met let me take his XB9R out for a spin...." blah, blah, blah
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/42294.html?1071956798

Then Bikerdave shows up with his claims of Jerseyguy's violation of intellectual property on "a patented stack I helped design a few months ago."
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/44587.html?1075305257

Lastly Custodian shows up and states that WE started this controversy and how it's in "poor taste that this kind of bigotry is allowed to function here." WTF

To whomever the hell ya'll are, the only thing that is in poor taste around here is your marketing techniques and the peddling of a product with no data to back it up. If you have a legitimate product, stick around and encourage our feedback. Share your knowledge, ideas and experiences and we will reciprocate. Quit lurking around and posting only in your best interest. This is a community not your commercial.
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Custodian
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about the rest of the stuff they sell? are they reputable and trustworthy? says nothing about a velocity stack.

The reference to 'snake oil' was made immediately after that question was asked, thus it implies putting down DFK Performance, a company who sell a multitude of motorcycling products manufactured by companies from all around the world.

Is this the spirit of BadWeB?

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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 08:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Absolutely nothing wrong at all with DFK. I believe the owner is a fellow Borger.
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Wyckedflesh
Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 09:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Custodian its not within your fathoming that the snake oil comment was directed strictly towards the stack which was asked about in the very first post of the thread. That the author of said comment had not read any further down the thread beyond those words due mearly by the fact that stack has a tainted history on this board?

If you were unclear as to whether the comment was about DFK's other products or the stack itself it would have been more prudent and showed more restraint on your part to ask directly what the comment was in reference to rather then ASS U MEing it was about DFK.

Now if my thoughts are wrong then I expect Court to tell me. Maybe I am the one ASS U MEing incorrectly. But see thats the beauty of ASS U MEing things.
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Johnnyprocket
Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2004 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

WOW you guys ALL get so wound up. I only wanted to see if they were reputable as a company. The only way I knew to associate the company was by a crazy velocity stack they sell. I could care less about the stack or snake oil. I stick to facts by the techs who install and by the dyno that proves it! Seat of pants is great until it comes race time, then I want to KNOW what I have in my motor. We are lucky to have some great companies as sponsors of this board, just hoping there are more companies of similar reputation. ...I step off my box now..
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