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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the bike will do 190 you dont know what its capable of...and i dont have to tell you everything about the bike because i can care less if you know what i have done to it...could be my little secrets id rather not share with idiot who sit and are most likely jealous because they cannot make their bikes perform
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Josh_
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So lets go to Maxton since its pretty close to you and find out what it will do.

The TeamElves S2/RR bike without a turbo went 208 (after setting the record at 202.989MPH) at Bonneville before we blew the motor back in '02 (read Court's version here)

I think I still have friends dragging Sportsters out to Maxton on occasion if you need contacts.
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P_squared
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Must...stop...looking...at...this...post!
Can't...stop...reading...this...post!

Talk 'bout a wreck on the side of the road where there's blood causing the 'rubberneck' effect, we have it here!

The easiest way to put it, even though it's been said in various and sundry ways already, is, "Put up or shut up."

I don't believe anyone on here takes offense at your enthusiasm. The issue I'm having with your posts are the claims w/ no proof followed by your apparent constant need to belittle others who ask you for proof.

I gladly await your impending flame, as it will undoubtedly provide another small source of humor to my otherwise dreary day.
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Court
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why am I reminded of the old saying. . . .


quote:

. . . Tis better to be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.


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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

...there's nothing wrong with dreaming at all.

It's not *my* dream - or at least one I'm interested in working towards, but I don't doubt for a second that pretty much everyone harbors some tiny part of them that simply wants to go fast, no matter how risky it is.

Just don't confuse the dream with reality, is all we're telling you. Until you have some proof, you're just blowing smoke. I don't trust the speedos on our bikes at all beyond highway speeds (they've been shown to be inaccurate even at that relatively sedate pace).

Fastest I've ever gone that I have proof of is 112.49MPH. I was still accelerating when I crossed the 1/4 mile before closing the throttle to decel, and it was more than fast enough for me. I'd rather do 30 through a tight corner than 200 straight, but that's just me (well, and likely a significant portion of the people who post here regularly).

It's all fun and games until someone claims their dick is bigger than yours. ; )
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i would give proof!!i have never had the bike on a dyno myself when i put the kit on my friend tuned it some for me with the ecmspy programm which i actually just learned to start playing with...actually really cool cause you can do whatever you want to the mapping. search on it its everywhere
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Okay - a few days ago you assured us all that your bike could do 200mph or damned close. Now you're saying it won't the way it is and need a turbo.

You also said before you've been riding bikes since you were 1 year old and started riding street bikes when you were 10. Now you only make reference to a 750 when you were 17.

Don't get started on generation differences. I'm one of the "young" guys you mentioned at 25 years old and I still think you're a putz.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i had MY OWN bike wen i was 16 i have ridden my dads street bike around parking lots at 10 The bike might possibly do 200 but i havent gotten it there and i honestly wouldnt know because of the speedo i know i have done 190 but mayb not if the gsxr speedo is off wen they are limited to 186 stock...and thats how fast he we was going wen i kept pullin. a putz....hahahahahahahahahahaha shutup
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

unless you know what the fu*K your talking about and not making a fool out of yourself by saying something that i never said dont bother posting it...or mayb go back and read before u post
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm tired of all this nonsense.
Either this gets back to a real discussion, and foul language stops, I'm locking this thread.
Bryan (Ridrnkink18) you have just stepped on thin ice my friend, change your attitude, and your posting style.
Please, and thank you.
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

-=sullenly kicks a rock=-

He started it...
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Punkid8888
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dang, I was hoping we could make this thread a sticky, that way we will always have it as a reminder
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Y'all want to debate? Have at it, just leave it at that. There's no need for all the dramatics and name calling.
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Ridrnkink18
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

hey i never started! i just wanted to give my opinion on a fast buell and everyone shot me down!!! its ok i know what im capable of and everyone for the last time will find out some day! did not mean to be harsh i apologize...just stay in touch with the forum wen im ready to come to wherever me and my buddys will take a ride to you
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Darthane
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Despite the lack of a smiley, it was intended to be a humorous remark, not actual finger-pointing.

I assure you that we'll still be here when[ever] the bike is finished and ready to run - and trust me, if you manage to get to 200MPH, there isn't a person here that wouldn't be happy as a pig in @#$% about it.
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Boltrider
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How much bandwidth is this thread using anyway?

(Message edited by Boltrider on July 10, 2008)
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You at one point claimed that you tuned and tuned and tuned your bike, but you never
had it on a dyno?

I will warn you that it is VERY easy to toast your motor with ECM spy if you do not
know exactly what the bike is doing (through use of exhaust gas analysis) at a given speed
and RPM. This is only possible via careful data logging under controlled conditions (ie. not on the
street where you cannot sustain a given speed and rpm near the top end where you claim
your cam is designed to work). Plus you can't see it and tweak it in real time.

You can data log and tune for the street, but it is time consuming and is really focused
where you ride 95% of the time (and where your data points will be coming from) and that
is in the mid-range not at the limiter, unless you really don't like your motor staying
in one piece.

Use your "sophisticated knowledge" to figure out where to get a fairing, but if you don't
need it at 192 you won't need it to get to 200.

That bike has the ducts into the airbox because the pic was taken at daytona where on
the track it generated enough pressure in the airbox to rip the fiberglass airbox cover.
It was still in prototype form there so the ducts were not in their finished form.

I NEVER stated the bike was incapable of 200. What I stated is that it could not pull
a gsxr600/750 from the line all the way to 200mph...err..190+mph like you claimed.

Take a gixxer off the line? sure. gear it short and surf the torque curve. Do-able.

hit 200 (with far more mods than you have made)? Sure, add fairings, bump compression,
use an 08+ crank, (make it an 88inch kit), race gas, proper gears, and the proper place
and time (the salt is not "good" every year). Do-able

BOTH? No way in hell with a cam, 1200 (actually 1170) big bore kit, and chain conversion.

Big talk is common as dirt on the internet. It is much harder to actually follow through.

There are many ways to prove your claims, but you apparently prefer to sneer at all of them
and think that someone else's speedometer is the way to measure performance.

Grow up, and make good on your claims with your motor in naturally aspirated form.
It should only take a day or so to terar down and re-assemble your motor even if you have
to change out bearings and oil pump. The parts and gaskets are cheap! We do similar work
in the pits between races all the time, it's not rocket science, and you claim to be better
with motors than we are! So your bike should be back together inside a week (assuming
that you have to order parts) from the day it popped....so..... You should be ready to
go sometime this week.

Most Harley/Buell dealers have a dyno, so do many other bike speed shops. They are not
hard to find and it will cost less than $100 to get a run done. Easy.

Otherwise, ECTA holds events and Hammer has offered to be a control rider in a test. IF
you are not all talk there are more than enough options to choose from to "Put up or
Shut up".

"Are you going to bark all day little doggie, or are you going to bite?"
(I'm a big Lee Marvin fan)
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Lanretsr
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How many buell riders are there in the new england and the mid atlantic? Lets just get together for a meet and greet and a ride. Plan around Ridrnkink18 schedule for when the bike is done. We'll get a chance to meet new people from the area and check out this bike. I'd be more then willing to come from Ct and I have a bunch of friends that don't have buell that would like to check this bike out. Its just a friendly get together and then he can prove the bike like he's been saying.
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Jaimec
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Englishtown?
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 03:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ridrnkink18: the reason everyone "shot you down" (what we call producing proof) is that
you made claims that are....outlandish (being nice!)

You are 20 years old and have made 84 posts on this board (most on this thread?) and have
no reputation with the board at large and therefore no credibility.

All we asked was that you prove it and you went nuts (again, being nice).

You claimed that you had something that would blow our minds if we were to see it.

We said OK we have locals that can verify.

You said OOPS I blew an oil line.

I said: that's a 15 minute job tops

you said: well I rode the bike a mile home (with no oil?) and have the engine torn down now
and made further claims about your mechanical prowess being the greatest ever seen and
that "our generation" didn't know what you were capable of.

I said: motors are rebuilt at the track with simple hand tools between rounds so it should
be EASY for you.

what comes next? another claim about "someday" I'll bet.
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Ikeman
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read the first couple posts when this thread started and pretty much ignored it until today. The high post count got my attention.

Can we use this thread as evidence to require DOB, last grade completed and whether or not you have a WoW and/or EverQuest account for BadWeb registration?



Now I'm going to the mall to find me some hotties to impress with my mad ridin' skillz.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was me asking respectfully about the ductwork on the airbox. Just my curiosity.

Still not clear what it does. Where did the pressure come from?

Is it on another thread because I would go there and read it?
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Are you going to bark all day little doggie, or are you going to bite?"
(I'm a big Lee Marvin fan)}

Great quote Brian.


Can anyone name this tune?:

You want to race?
If you insist.
At that price, I can't resist.
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Tonight it ain't right,
I got to have me a week.
But I'll be back for you, Jack,
and I'll let the machine speak.
That's right, that's right, that's right.

Showdown? You bet.
And I haven't saddled my pony yet.
Have mercy, Miss Percy.
I done put the coon tune on this bet.
That's right, that's right, that's right }
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Hammer71
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wLMimF0-28


A little Manic Mechanic for ya
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Spatten1
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice work Hammer.
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No_rice
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was me asking respectfully about the ductwork on the airbox. Just my curiosity.

Still not clear what it does. Where did the pressure come from?

Is it on another thread because I would go there and read it?

it is a ram air set up. such as the xbrr has or the 1125 has. force more air into the throttle bodies at speed to produce more power.
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Sticks
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is art
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Diablobrian referred to pressures: created or relieved?

The ram air effect doesn't really apply. Most of this thread has been about the rpm limitations.

Unless I'm missing something, which is why I'm asking.
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Sticks
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right, sorry. I caved.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Iamarchangel:

The ram air set-up has nothing to do with this thread other than being on a real racing
XB that has outrun middle weight (600cc class) IL4s at the (smaller, more technical) track.


The ram air effect only becomes evident at speeds in excess of 80mph. The reason it
was on the bike is because of the top end run at Daytona. The only reason it came up
was because someone questioned the use of them on the race bike I posted pics of. If there
was any advantage on the street I'd have a version of it on my bike. After all that set-up
was made in my Uncle LJ's garage. As it stands I don't spend that much time at those
speeds, unlike some who act like they always ride at the top of 5th gear.

The air pressure is created by the bike's passage through the air at high speed. Ideally you
want to get the air from the fairing's leading edge, but that was impractical for us so
we tore a page from Brian Bemisderfer's book on the location of the intakes.

As I said, it worked well enough to create a new problem because the relatively low pressure
over a large surface area (the inside of the airbox cover) caused the mount screws to rip
out of the cover. At Daytona you take every edge you can get though, especially on the
drive to the finish line where the effect was greatest.

(Message edited by diablobrian on July 10, 2008)
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