| Author | Message | ||
     Diablobrian |
OK, the limit on the engine's speed is limited artificially by the rev limiter. It could theoretically be raised, but the real limiting factor here is the strength of the bottom end (pressed together crank) and piston speed which cannot exceed 4000fpm IIRC without going to really exotic materials and even then it only gets you to around 5000fpm or so in the most extreme cases by using Ti rods, slipper pistons etc. There is also the side loading of the pistons to consider. Even if he removed the limiter and tried to run it up to 12k rpms all he would get for his trouble is a blown motor. If you raise the rev limit by as little as 1500rpm it can (and will) reduce the engine's life so far that it will be counted in hours or even minutes instead of years because of the increased stress on the bottom end. The motors that rev much higher than our Buells do so because they have much shorter strokes, and therefore travel a shorter distance each revolution, and much smaller bores with the pistons having less mass, and less side loading because of the different lay-out of the engine. | ||
| Diablobrian |
Darin: No problem, and you wanted pictures? OK here is the real deal: The race bike with diablomichael (Michael Snell) on board  And my bike's dyno chart (because it is the only way one will make it to this thread):  My bike:  The pits at Daytona:  | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Nice machinery. Is the ducting to the airbox explained on some other thread? So, basically, you would say that the stars would have to be in perfect alignment for his bike to produce those results. He'd have to have the accidentally perfect limiter, the accidentally perfect crank and pistons. And, somehow, with all the accidents, they all worked perfectly together. If he'd bought a powerball, he could own the whole team. Maybe Buell should buy his bike from him. (Actually happened at my workplace, the VP made some reference about nobody would have a car with that mileage. A lady did. They bought it off her to figure out how it had lasted so long.) Thanks for the explanations. I've only ever blown up one of my own bikes. I've worked on other blown race bikes. I'm following your arguments. However, the 1125 increased the bore, lowered the stroke, increased the rpm and look what they got. Sometimes, hackers get lucky but, somebody already said it, in this digital age, they post something. You did. It would be nice to see something from him. Respectfully. | ||
| Luisemilio25r |
if you ask me, this guy is 14 y/o. | ||
| Court |
>>>>Put up or shut up time came and went. This sort of discussion came about in 1999 between BMW, Moto-Guzzi (current holders of the World Land Speed record for twins) and some folks here on Badweb. I suggest you do what we did. Go to Bonneville and prove yourself. We broke all the records and in fact broke a record for setting records when we broke 4 Land Speed Records in a day. Your claims are outrageous and the fact that you can't spell Mr. Flickinger's name only elevates my skepticism. I do not believe you. Go to Bonneville and prove it. Court P.S. - don't forget to check out all the Land Speed Records currently held by Buells. Some of them are amazing. You'll also note that most the 150 Club are Buells. (Message edited by court on July 10, 2008) | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
i can honestly give two sh*** about what anyone thinks...and i did not say a 944 turbo...i had a 944 turbo which i swapped in a turbo LS1 get your facts straight...if i was 14 whoever this new guy is saying that obviously i would not be on a bike...everyone is not worth an argument...how about you just let me finish what im doing and you all can wait to get behind me on your bike and not have the chance of cathcin me...i also dont care if you are a mechanic or turbine mechanic or whatever..dyno means nothing to me right now...i dont even have a dyno and the only time i will get a chance to be on one is when i bring my bike to my buell guy who does nothing but build engines all day. If you know the right people..which some of you state you do..you should be able to build anything as fast as you want it to be...i would say 200 is the limit to any motorized vehicle...untill anyone sees my bike not piss all over everyone elses...dont put me down...im sure you are all mature enough to be patient and wait it out...otherwise your a bunch of 38 year old men with attitudes of a 5 year old. | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
and can i ask diablo...any idea on where the front fairing on that black bike came from? i have never seen one so clean and good looking i have been trying to come across a front setup like that. | ||
| Glitch |
You are either very ignorant, very misinformed, or a simple troll. | ||
| Xl1200r |
This thread is actually starting to scare me. I was reading another forum which had a link to yet another forum and the story went something like this... An 18-year old kid posted about his fathers BMW M5 (for those that don't know, it's a seriously fast sedan) stating that it shuttered into the next gear at something like 150mph. Some people tried to help him with the problem, others doubted he even had the car, and many tried to convince him that at 18 he had no business driving that fast and were seriously concerned for his safety. His posts abruptly stopped on the forum. A couple days later, another member found the news article stating that the kid had borrowed the car, filled it up with his friends and went to the local airport. Ended up smashing into a tree or something at an insane rate of speed and killed everyone in the car. Point is - if this bike is what you say it is (and even if its only half that), I hope it doesn't end up in a wad on the side of the road. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/news/five-youth s-killed-in-bmw-m5-crash/ | ||
| Nu2buell |
I have a girlfriend....she's in Mexico right now so you can't meet her....my camera's broken (sorry, no pics)....my friend's girlfriend's friend is my girlfriend...I swear. | ||
| Darthane |
You are either very ignorant, very misinformed, or a simple troll. ...it is possible to be all three, you know. Why limit oneself? | ||
| Spatten1 |
Man, Why are you guys feeding in to all of this? This is like arguing with "that guy" in the bar. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Man, Why are you guys feeding in to all of this? This is like arguing with "that guy" in the bar. So, you have something to read. Grown up way of playing "made you look". ha. | ||
| Darthane |
It's quite entertaining, why not perpetuate it!? | ||
| No_rice |
i would say 200 is the limit to any motorized vehicle. i have a production bike sitting in the shop that will push 250mph in stock trim, and no im not being a smart ass | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
no no i dont doubt that...obviously you can make a vehicle go more than 200...and i was just saying that as of like simple cars and street bikes...cause any super car will obviously do 200 if not more STOCK the bugatti does 252...i would do anything to drive that car. and obviously funny cars and rails but thats pushing thousands of hp. i think a 200mph buell is possible no matter what anyone says. it will get done, but not without a turbo in my eyes. i did not have any more push with just the motor kit so i have to do something to make it do 200 so i dont look like a complete fool...its gonna be the other way around...except there is like 10 of you who doubt the capabilities of mine and the bike. build it strong..right..and not the same as everyone thinks it needs to be..it will get done! | ||
| Spatten1 |
Well, I am addicted to this thread, I just can't muster the fire in the belly to be one of the fighters. Now if you want to talk about DDFI 2 not having a baro sensor, I'll be there. | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
still lookin to know where that front fairing comes from diablo...could help me get to my goal with some more aero | ||
| Darthane |
i think a 200mph buell is possible no matter what anyone says. Kid, your reading comprehension sucks balls. No one's saying it isn't possible, in fact there are numerous instances of people either expressing their belief that it IS possible or citing the RECORDED INSTANCES of it out on the salt flats. What we're all telling you is that your bike, with the mods you've stated have been done to it, is nowhere near capable of it. I'll repeat that for you: Your bike, with the mods you've stated have been done to it (or with quite a bit more, actually), is not capable of 200MPH. Period. End of story. However, since I'm deriving a lot of smiles from reading the thread, please continue. Does it rain 110 octane fuel in your world? | ||
| Luisemilio25r |
dude Im not new. Maybe to the xb forum because I mostly write on 1125r one. But I like to read this forum once in a while (used to have an 12 firebolt which was my favorite bike before I got the 25r) . You are just making a fool of your self and although is somewhat entertaining, the more you post the more Im convinced that buell you are talking about is your first ever bike. Yes, it might feel like 200, err 192 mph but there is no way your 9xb has the power to reach that speed no matter what sprockets, stroke kit, head work, stickers and that advanced piece of equipment you used called the "what not". | ||
| Luisemilio25r |
Oh, and I have used the "whatnot" before with no good results, so it is not that advanced. | ||
| Luisemilio25r |
somehow you remember me my ex wife. Go figure! | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
you dont know what your talking about...ill say it for the last time hold your smarta** comments in untill you see it..and my reading comp. is not bad either..go look through the forum there have been atleast 10-15 times where people say it cant happen...obviously you missed 4-5 years in school with your wrong comments towards me. and the buell was not my first bike...not once did i say that...i had a bike wen i was 16 it was a gsxr 750...o yea i forgot you know who i am or anything about me...keep your mouths shut | ||
| Steeldrummerj |
You know, this thread gives me a reason to go to work every day. (no internet at home)I do have a pair of fuzzy dice I'll donate if it'll help you get to 200. | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
fuzzy dice around old school...or for nowaday lowriders...they might just be the protection i need if i go down you never know they could break my fall..not that i am going to go down..knock on wood | ||
| Darthane |
-=laughs=- *I* missed four or five years of school? You can't even use simple punctuation properly. ...come to think of it, actually, I *did* miss 5 years of 'school'. I was home-schooled 7th through 12th, and started college when I was in 10th grade. I'll reiterate ( look the word up - www.dictionary.com ): Noone here doubts that a Buell can do 200MPH. There is proof - it's in the record books. The people who are telling you it can't happen are telling *you*, specifically, that *your bike*, specifically, with the mods you state you've done to it, (largely unspecifically), is not capable of 200MPH. | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
i also stated with the mods i have couldnt do it....i love how someone can act as such a immature dude and actually start arguing about punc. and school...good one your a real man ill tell ya..grow up stop putting words in my mouth because i DID NOT say it would do 200 as is..why do you think im putting a turbo on. And everyone was saying it can't do 200...because the bike just cannot handle the speed...saying it would just blow everything apart. alright whatever idc that some old guy has to argue about it...the younger generation especially mine is way more into building fast vehicles and seem to be able to build them no problem..due to the research of your generation of course...but we take you knowledge with our more sophisticated ideas and make it work better. | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
lemme guess...got home schooled because all the little kids at school did nothing but make fun of you. so quite complaining about my thoughts of going fast...everyone has dreams...i hate to argue but i will just have to prove my point when im able to. | ||
| Darthane |
anyway im not doubting the bike might not touch 200 but it surely does around 190 That's an earlier statement from you. I assure you it is also hogwash. Backpedal some more. =D 'My generation' -=laughs=- I'm twenty-seven. You can think anything you want about my schooling and the choices made that impacted it. Your responses alone are more than enough for people to draw their own conclusions regarding our relative maturity and education levels. Your LS1-equipped 944 sounds like a lot of fun.  (Message edited by darthane on July 10, 2008) | ||
| Ridrnkink18 |
and yea my punctuation is of and stuff because im at work i cannot sit here and type all words correct and make sure i have every damn comma and period in place...i type as fast as i can and post expecting older guys as yourselves to have the common knowledge on what im saying. |
