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Manimal
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So, I'm trying to take my clutch cover off and apparantly i'm not the first to try. Because 2 of the 3 bolts are already stripped out. torx bolts. Any crafty ideas to help me would be appreciated.
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cut a line across the head with a dremel and use a flathead screw driver. This works well when the bolts aren't torqued too tight, but I'm not sure how well it work for the clutch cover bolts. Good luck!
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 01:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If Cereal's idea doesn't work, you might get lucky with Easy Out or other brand screw extractors, available at all hardware stores.

When replacing the screws you might consider stainless allen head screws, and use medium strength, (blue), Loctite.

Stainless screws cause less corrosion in Aluminum.

Allen heads drive better.

Loctite also reduces corrosion, and holds the screws in with out overtightening them.

It is very easy to strip the threads in the aluminum primary case, especially if using the factory specified torque values which appear to be too high.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 01:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've used gentle taps on a small punch in a dremel tool notch as well with some success.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I feel your pain, Manimal! Been there, done that twice. Once used a roto tool, once a hacksaw, both to do the big ol' flathead technique.

~SM
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Jerseyguy
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Remember it's a #27 torx and not #25. It's an east mistake since most torx sets have a 25 & not a 27.
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Bake
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would think you could drill it and use an easy out or just drill the head off?
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You could Bake, but isn't using a flat head screw driver and leaving the treads alone a little easier?
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Wantxbr
Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 10:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gently tap in a hex head allen socket that's slightly larger than the torx bit and try that. If it strips out goto the next size TORX bit and tap that in. This usually works for me at work. If those don't work then drill the head of the bolt off, remove the cover and use a small pair of vise grips to remove the remaining bolt.
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Cycleaddict
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if a bolt breaks due to corrosion (seizing) the chances of getting the remaining piece out with an E/Z out is almost ZERO !!!! genenrally the E/Z out breaks off inside the "hole".(E/Z outs are about as "hard" as a drill bit ) . has anyone ever had good results with E/Z outs & corroded bolts ???
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Wantxbr
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes I have. Use a flat punch and hammer and give the bolt a few heavy taps, spray some WD40, Liquid Wrench or equivalent and let soak in a few minutes. Drill through the center of the bolt (all the way through if posible)lightly tap EZ out into bolt and remove. Works about 80% of the time.
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Strato9r
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 01:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Another thing to try is to use an air chisel with a flat tipped driver on it, and hold it firmly against the center of the stuck bolt while pulling the trigger. The vibration will work any penetrating oil in between the threads and loosen things up nicely. This works about 80% of the time as well, (as long as it isnt a long-rotted 390 Ford exhaust manifold bolt!)
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Manimal
Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 03:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So here's where i'm at. I tried to tap an allen wrench fitting in the stripped bolt but it didnt work. I tried using a #27 torx but that was too big. I'm pretty sure i'm gonna have to use an easy out and drill the bolts out. Hooray 4 out of 5 bolt need to be drilled. I'm gonna try and cut a flat spot on the 3 of the heads but i know i have to use an easy out on at least one of them. I appreciate the help.
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