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Ridrx
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

... all hail the mighty I4. Does EVERY thread have to end up here? Can some of you not grasp the fact that most satisfied Buell owners DON'T CARE about race-replicas, regardless of how perfect they are?

This is still a pro-Buell forum, isn't it? Or am I in the wrong place...again?

The guy has obviously already made up his mind to get a ricer, which is great if that is what he wants.

Thepup,

NO amount of blathering on about the alleged greatness of I4's is going to make me want another one. Been there,done that...too many times. I bet the guys at japbikesruletheworld.com would love to hear all the ego stroking though.

Nothing wrong with jap sportbikes, just not my gig anymore. It's been said there is no be all,end all bike...true when you are making a blanket statement, but when I think of the perfect bike forME, there IS one ...my XB.

Vaneo1,
Whether you sell or not I hope you find your perfect bike, Good luck and ride smart.
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07xb12scg
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No motorcycle engine makes a ton of power everywhere. That's beside the point.

If my Buell starts having a lot of issues it will be for sale faster than it can actually move. I am almost completely happy with my purchase, but will have a 600cc inline 4 Jap bike as my second bike within a year or 2. That way it's the best of both worlds IMO.
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Spatten1
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If my Buell starts having a lot of issues it will be for sale faster than it can actually move. I am almost completely happy with my purchase, but will have a 600cc inline 4 Jap bike as my second bike within a year or 2. That way it's the best of both worlds IMO.

I'd like to have both too, but make it a 750.

because nothing else out there currently except for the 1098, gives me any sort of emotional attraction

I feel the same way, but add the 675 and everything MV Agusta makes. As much as I respect the Japanese manufacturers, I too am emotionally drawn toward the American and Euro bikes. I hate to admit it, but that new twin BMW looks pretty nice too.
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Swordsman
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 03:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, has anyone noticed that Vaneo's already left the building? Yet the debate goes on without him.... that's just too funny!

~SM
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Thepup
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 05:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ridrx,never said you should get an IL4 bike,one guy was tired of the problems with his Buell,then we hear that Japanese bikes need to be rebuilt every 15,000 miles,then it morphs into a debate of power differences of Buells to IL4's.Funny most buellers say bench racing is for losers but when they think it helps their argument it is fine.Some of the Buell-Aid drinkers here have to justify their choice of bikes by putting down other bikes with things they know nothing about.
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Spike
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


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Spike- ride one. If you think the Buell makes power, a GSXR750 will scare the hell out of you.




Irrelevant. The statement I was refuting had nothing to do with peak power. The statement I was refuting was that the 750 makes power everywhere and does not need to be revved.
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Cgocifer
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Ridrx,never said you should get an IL4 bike,one guy was tired of the problems with his Buell,then we hear that Japanese bikes need to be rebuilt every 15,000 miles,then it morphs into a debate of power differences of Buells to IL4's.Funny most buellers say bench racing is for losers but when they think it helps their argument it is fine.Some of the Buell-Aid drinkers here have to justify their choice of bikes by putting down other bikes with things they know nothing about."

Whatever dude, I know you're not referring to me because as I've said repeatedly, I like ALL bikes. I've also said that all bikes have their issues too. So, though there is nothing wrong with brand loyalty, or as you so eloquently stated, "Buell-Aid drinkers," I'm not a Buell-only enthusiast. Each kind of bike appeals to me for what it is. As for this topic of discussion, I'm done. It has completely derailed from the original path. Riderx is right, this is a pro-Buell forum. Buell haters, this isn't the place for you. Ride on all, see you in more productive areas of the site.
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Vaneo1
Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

LOL, has anyone noticed that Vaneo's already left the building? Yet the debate goes on without him.... that's just too funny!
Haha, I wouldnt necessarily say that, I mean I AM still a Buell owner, Ive just been busy with my bike problem.
Heres the update that is if I may interrupt this argument that I dont even want to have any part of.
I go to pick up my bike on Sat from Glendale HD and when I arrive low and behold, all of the staff is just sitting on the street stuffing there faces with chili and watching two sexy easter bunnies with cotton tails walk back and fourth from building to building. Im not saying I would be able to work seeing that kind of :tail: walking around but I wish they would have been straight up with me and told me exactly what their maintenance work load situation is looking like. After all for the past two weeks Ive been getting the "oh yea were going to look at it today line." Anyway, so I spent all day Saturday with my friend working on the problem and we got it half way done but couldnt complete the job. Fastforward to Monday (today), I decided to take the bike to Bartels and man do I feel assured that my bike will be taken care of. I was told that it shouldnt be in the shop for more than a week. I was told that the reason why my bike sat at Glendale was probably because nobody wanted to take the job.
I can buy thayt because the first thing I was told by the service writer was that this job may or may not be successful. If it is not, then my bike would have to be shipped off to their machine shop where the entire engine would have to be pulled off of the frame so it can be worked on.
All of this for a broken engine/ header stud?? I hope now some of you can smell what I am stepping in. Anyway I though I would just throw that out there amidst the V-Twin I-4 debate. Honestly I agree there is no right or wrong answer, whatever floats your boat, dyno charts, past mechanical experience blah blah, doesnt really provide and end all be all answer. If I do go back to Japanese which so far I am still leaning, I will give people an honest informed opinion about Buell... it is true the ricers always come over to have a look.
P.S. started out on a 95 CBR F3 with 20K miles on it and took it to 40K before selling it for the Buell. In those 20K I had ZERO major :catastrophy: problems with it. Just changed the oil and told her how sweet she was.
IMO Buell is still an ever working "concept" bike, some feel proud to be a part of that concept, me, I did now I need something that is well refined and will perform to my demands. My tolerance to concept is running out as quick as my warranty is.

(Message edited by vaneo1 on April 09, 2007)
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I hope now some of you can smell what I am stepping in.
I think I smell the smelly smell of something that smells smelly, a bad "service" center.
Am I correct in thinking that if the "service" center you speak of had serviced the bike in a timely manner, and had done the job right, you be a happy Bueller?
If that is the case, is a sad state of affairs that some many good customers are run off by poor support.
I feel for the guys that either have no interest, skills, or tools to take care of their own service. There should be no reason what so ever a person without interest, skills, or tools should be left out in the cold.
I'm fortunate, I have good dealership support, interest in doing my own work, and friends that have the tools that I don't, and help where my skill is lacking.
In a way I guess that's one of the reasons I enjoy my bike so much, us Buellers got to stick together. I love the comradery being a Bueller has brought.
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>>Buell is correct, this bike is anything but common.

That is an accurate statement. The Buell XB's are some of the most reliable and well produced motorcycles available.

They used to be common. . . they had periodic problems like Honda, KTM and BMW.

Since the introduction of the XB line Buell quality figures have gone up and are now among the top in the industry.

Thanks for the observation. There are a number of excellent motorcycles . . . I hope what you bought provides you with miles of smiles.

Court
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07xb12scg
Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd like to have both too, but make it a 750.

Yeah a 750 would be good too, but I'm leaning towards a used bike to turn into a stunt bike and beat the crap out of. Plus, I only like the newest generation of 750s. The older 750s are just ugly pigs IMO. They weren't when they came out, but now they just look so outdated.
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