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Norcalbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This bike is beautiful and at $15,000.00 is what makes it even sexier. I can picture my garage now, My Red 2004 XB12R Firebolt snuggled up with its new mate 2007 Ducati 1098.... I could live the rest of life with those and never need another bike or anything for that matter... They would be right up there as the main reason i live giving my kids and family some real competition ....

The specs sound amazing especially for that price.





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Xbmojo
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh no i can sense the buell-aid patrol on its way
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Buelltroll
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That is a gorgeous bike.


Ducati North America proudly announces North American pricing for the all new 1098 Superbike. This revolutionary motorcycle, which makes 160 horsepower and weighs 381 pounds will carry a manufacturers suggested retail price of $14,995. The 1098 S will be priced at $19,995 while the limited edition 1098 S Tri-Colore will be $24,995.
Prices in Canada will be $19,995 for standard version, while the 1098 S will be $24,995 and the Tri-Colore will be $29,995.

“We are very pleased to announce not only a radical new Superbike family, but also a brand new competitive pricing structure. We have worked long and hard to make this happen, and we are excited to launch this motorcycle at the Seattle International Motorcycle Show, which happens December 1-3” said Michael Lock, CEO of Ducati North America.

The 1098 range of motorcycles will be available in dealerships throughout North America and Canada starting in early February. For further information and images, please click here.


(Message edited by buelltroll on November 15, 2006)
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Samiam
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 03:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's a lot of bike.

Sexy.

I think I need to excuse myself.

Sam
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07xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's a nice bike, BUT I think Ducati stylists have lost their edge. They've never been the same since Massimo Tamburini left. Ducatis used to be the sexiest bikes on the planet and very unique, but that's no longer true with Pierre Terblanche being the stylist. This new bike is nice, but it looks like it rips off features of the Honda CRB600RR and the Triumph 675. Pierre needs to go back to school.
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What is the difference between the 1098 and the 1098 S other than $5k? And I don't care how limited the tri-color is, $10k for a different color is a load of crap.
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Buellman39
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

07xb12scg I think you need to go back a couple of years and take a good close look at Ducati. Then after you have done that you tell us why they have lost there styling edge. The new Ducati closely resembles the old style that put Ducati on the map. In fact it set the standard for what most of the big boys followed for years. Ducati put the superbike on the map and they are still ahead of the game.
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99buellx1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Woo Hoo.....another thread about it.


There's been a discussion going on for about a week, click here:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/406 2/239384.html?1163563064
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Davy_boy
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Beautiful bike but I sorta agree with 07xb12scg looks like every other repli racer on the market . and you can still find the same looking bike cheaper in a gixxer or an r1 or a cbr with the same or better performance . so why spend the extra gash .
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Jscott
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 08:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Maybe the Ducati stylist could get some of that lost edge back if they slapped some big ol' number plates on the back of it? I think Buell is going to start a trend there.
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Djkaplan
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The more things change, the more they stay the same. The 1098 isn't anything like the old roundcase desmo SS from the 70's, but it still illicits the same emotions I had back then when I first saw one.
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Cycleaddict
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

THAT is one beuutiful bike--- all i can say to the non-believers is if you havn't ridden one - you have no idea what your talking about !!! ( kinda like bashing buells when you haven't ridden one) ducatis (like buells) have so much character ,it's like having sex but last so much longer !!
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07xb12scg
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buellman39: I stated my reasons for my opinion that Ducati has lost their styling edge. I'll repeat myself. I am familiar with a few generations of the older Ducatis. The 916/996 was the best design they've ever had in my opinion. This new design looks like a CRB600RR Triumph 675 hybrid, especially in the front. As you said, it also sort of resembles Massimo's design of the 916/996 proving even more, in my opinion, that Pierre is not a great design man, if this is indeed his design as I assume it is.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love it. It is beautiful, you can bank on it handling very well, and it has MOTOR and character.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Specs, smecs. Ya can't ride a spec sheet. Ducatis are nice, but expensive to maintain and repair. Not the most comfortable bikes on the road either,but sexxxy. Good luck.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Expensive to maintain and repair??? Come to my garage and I'll show you an XB that is expensive to maintain and repair.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with you on the comfort, my XB is definitley a better all day rider.
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Cereal
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Answered my own question. The only difference is the shocks. 1098 has Showa, and the S has Öhlins. Is that worth $5k? I haven't had any problems w/ my Showas.
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that the Ohlins are more track oriented.
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Norcalbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some of you guys are trippin. This Bike rocks....

End of Story.....

1098

1098

999R

999R

916

916
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Davy_boy
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've driven them before and to be honest a dialed in gixxer handles as good . And you will never use the potential of either bike on the street so why pay the extra ? 10k on the Buell and the only money I have spent was for tires and oil changes . If you have limited skills servicing that bike will cost about 4 times the amount of any buell .
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Norcalbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Your right theres absolutely no styling differences between the cbr600.....


Think you might have that backwards....CBR trying to be Italian?

Wasnt the 999R around $30k new and the 999S $25k, correct me if im wrong. Please, im not sure....

Thanks





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Norcalbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sorry thats like comparing a Nissan 300zx to a Ferrari. If that was the case I could got a hell of a lot more bike if id bought a run of the mill GSXR instead of my 12R...cant believe you made that statement....
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Spatten1
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"you will never use the potential of either bike on the street so why pay the extra"

I used to believe the same. Then I switched from a ZX11 to a ZX9 and smoked everyone in my riding group that I previously rode behind. Even if you don't slide both tires or max traction out, you still benefit from light weight, nimble handling, and stability.

80% on a high performance bike is WAY faster than 80% on an inferior bike. Plus I find that my confidence skyrockets with bikes that work better, even if I don't ride them like Nicky Hayden.

The price point and styling on the new Duc are strong moves. Less than a Fat Boy for a sweet Ducati, easy decision for me.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Been there done that Ducati thing before, go the t shirt and everything.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man, what is it about Pierre Terblanche that makes everyone hate him?
I can't be the only one that finds the 999/749 to be a awesome and uniquely styled bike. I thought they were beautiful machines as soon as they came out and even more so when I finally got to see one up close. Actually, it's probably the only full-fairing bike I've ever thought looked good.
I dunno maybe I'm a weirdo but I know if I had the money to spend on one I would get it.
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cereal,
On the Ducati website they mention the following items on the S model;
"The fully adjustable 43mm Öhlins FG511 forks... a fully adjustable Öhlins 46PRC rear shock with a ride enhancing top-out spring... a control-enhancing adjustable steering damper... Marchesini forged and machined wheels, reducing weight by 1.9Kg (4lbs)... a carbon fibre front fender and seat fairing cooling ducts...
The 1098 S is also supplied with the Ducati Data Analysis system as standard equipment."
So the "S" package seems to be more than just a different shock.
I didn't find any infromation on the Tri-Color Package but I imaging that it will be a bit more than a paint job.

(Message edited by Not_Purple_S2 on November 15, 2006)
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Davy_boy
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

No question to it's looks and performance but the level that sport bike are now you can take any of the big inch jap bikes and have a formidable weapon . Ducati's just aint that far ahead to justify the cost IMO .
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Not_purple_s2
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well looking at the numbers it doesn't even take a big inch jap bike to beat a buell, hell the middle-weights can do that. But we still ride buells don't we? Talking like that here is like preachin' in a whorehouse. If anyone here was concerned with spec-sheets vs $$$ then they wouldn't be here.
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Olinxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 01:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point not purple. Ducs are Ducs and you either love them or hate them. Personally, I think the 1098 is awesome and I love the fact that there is finally an "affordable" Duc available besides the lowest model Monster. If I had the cash to swap the Buell for that Duc or own both I would do it in a heartbeat. Not that I don't love my bike, but the grass is always greener and such. I've only owned two sportbikes to this point and I don't think the Buell will be the last or that I will always ride Buell. Lay off the Buellaide boys.
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