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Dmextreme
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys,

been pretty busy this winter, doing nothing! Well, I actually had a spill and my cranckcase shattered right at the shifter and peg.
So I have been wrenching, got the Crossroads handlebars at american sports bike.com and a fender eliminator. (good posts) gonna soon do the Muell conversion with the tail. XB9s to XB9r.
But anyway, been wrenching, and I can not for the life of me, get the damn crank case off. I have every screw unbolted, I bought a manual on ebay, but it doesn't go into a whole lot of detail. So what I want to know, does anyone know what I am missing out on? I will add some pictures so that way you can see what i mean. I tried to call the dealer, and man, he spoke chinese. I must say I am not all that literate when it comes to fixing motorcycles, but I know a few things.
The pictures are where i am stuck at, notice the grommet is still in place, and i am not sure about the other things.. I am a newb, but I like to learn this stuff on my own.First Shot2nd shot So, I have not had allot of time to do a whole bunch, but it has been eating at me that I am at a stand still and I can't go any further. Would love your guys help, I am so glad i found this board.
Thanks in advance guys.
Jerry
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HOLY $HIT I GOT ANOTHER BUELLER AROUND!!!!!

there shouldnt be anything else holding it on, give it a few good whacks with a dead blow or something along those lines. it is probably just stuck. plus you have the pin for the shifter sticking out that kind of binds up alittle.
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Zoar
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

whoa!!!!!!!!!
You have to disconnect the clutch mechanism....take a flat screwdriver and screw the shaft sticking out of the cluth basket to the right...the hex nut on the shaft will come out of its locking hole...remove the nut completely...your cover is being held by the mechanism..
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(Message edited by zoar on January 24, 2006)
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Rubber mallet is your friend. Just gotta tap and pull. From the looks of things you should be set to go.

Oops, my bad. Missed that. Thanks for catching that Z.

(Message edited by cataract2 on January 24, 2006)
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Dmextreme
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do I take it off? the clutch mechanism?
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Zoar
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do u understand what I'm saying?
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Dmextreme
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep, i was posting as you were posting. lol sorry! gotcha, so that should be the only thing holding it on. Great, will get on that. Also getting my parts on Tuesday or so. Will keep you updated. if I have anymore questions, i will come back and ask, also, does the XB12R Cranckcase cover the same and will it work? the only difference I saw was the titanium color? Thanks Zoar /// No_Rice where you from?
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Zoar
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Should be same primary cover
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No_rice
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ya i missed that, good thing someone else is more awake than me tonight.

jerry, im in nevada. was just in dm saturday wandering around and stopped by zooks to talk to some friends that work there. i go to dm for bike night frequently on thursdays, usually along with some of my friends from iowafalls
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99buellx1
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Havent seen you post on susa lately. (im craig_xb over there)

Without looking at my bike or manual, would it help to loosen the primary shoe to release tension on the primary chain?
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah its been a while, hello craig.. and wow, now i have a Bueller to go ride with, what kind of bike u riding no_rice? a blast? lol
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

look in my profile at the 9r's

and the new version of the white one in that pic is herehttp://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/32777/169807.html?1138113972 u will have to look back through the archives at the top of the page it will be the bottom one of the two.
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

nice paint! lol.. i bet that gets allot of looks ! hahaha yeah sometime this spring summer, we have to hook up and go on some voyages. July me and wife is going to CO, I am riding, and she is drivng the car.. plan on a week of mountain exploring! ought to be a great time!
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah those pics above, I was riding with a couple members of the DMExtreme Stunt group
check them out

www.stuntusa.com

:-)
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

that thing has like 3 miles on it since i got it back together last thursday after trashing it this summer when i stripped the belt.

ya that should be fun. i plan on trying to make it to the buell homecoming in wisconsin in june, and then ofcourse there is always sturgis that i have to go to. dont think i'll be making daytona though this year, think i need to just save my money.

i am guessing you must be getting a deal on a 12 case? since you were wondering about that? can always just wrinkle black the new one.

ya i figured as much by the name, lol. that'll teach ya!

(Message edited by no_rice on January 25, 2006)
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah lol..

but the 12 case is on ebay right now.. i bid on it.. instead of paying 200 for a new one or so.. yeah i'd like to go to a rally.. and sturgis.. never been.. looks liek fun.. have to chat see if we can't go together or what have ya.. talk to ya soon, i got to get up early i sell mortgages (2nds) for Citibank.. take it easy bud.. lates
And Zoar, thanks for the info!
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While you have the cases off, you might want to think about tightening the primary sprocket bolts.

Zoar, do you have the info on this?

I believe that Buell issued a tech bulletin changing the torque spec. or something.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FWIW: I don't recall having to remove the clutch mechanism when i changed my primary gasket and chain shoe. I would bet one of the pins that holds the cover in place is bent slightly, hence impeding your progress.
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah, got the case off. Everything looks fine inside, no damage to anything. As far as the clutch mechanism, yeah that's what i had to do. yeah but if I need to adjust anything, Zoar can you supply those specs? Also had another question... Does anyone else use some oil while driving any of the XB's? my god, this thing is a guzzler, but no smoke, no seepage, no anything, just drinks it. I was curious as to see if anyone else had this situation. And another thing, do you know how embarresing it is to have a 984CC that should really be labeled as a 600cc. I mean the torque is awesome, but man, so much for trying to beat an I4. LOL, i tried to race a R6, LMFAO!!! I was so smoked.. but that's besides the point. I am going to keep reading the forum for little upgrades that could help me out. Wife doesn't like it, but hey, that's life. Thanks Zoar, i be checkin back to the forum.
Hey No_Rice, yeah it sucks that Zooks did away with all the Buell stuff. I bought my Buell from Lentner harley in Ottumwa, IA. Donna a real nice lady. But man, I hate going so far just to get things, I think after i pick up my parts for the crank case, I will be going to Zylstras in Ames, IA. Jabbin to much, see ya guys, and thanks.
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Zoar
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not sure on XB spec for compensating nut.. I clean shaft threads and nut very well..add RED loctite and torque to a minimum of 180ft. lbs.
As to your oil usage. When you get it all back together, hold the bike level and make a good VISUAL impression of where the primary fluid level is. Then after riding for awhile, check that visual level again. If the primary fluid level has increased you have an oil seal problem allowing your oil to get into the primary case. Also...do the XB's have an oil drain plug in the bottom of the engine case?? If they do...drain the oil and if you have a ton of oil drain out..you have a problem with the oil pump system not circulating the oil back to the tank and allowing it to build up in the engine cases. This will drown your flywheels and rob alot of power and make the bike run unusually hot til it??
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

but also how many miles are on yours? there are more than a few people that have oil consuming buells. some have said up to 4, 5000 miles theres have seemed to drink alot but then they seem to get better after that. this is just what i have been told by a few. my old one seems to not have much of a problem. dont have enough miles on the newer one to know about it yet

as far as easy tweeks...

start by either cutting the air intake snorkel, or just plain removing it.(cost $0)

swiss cheese the air box or even get ride of it all except the part that seals down the filter. doing that though means you have to make another way to hold down the lid.(cost $0 to very minimal)

then ofcourse there is exhaust. cheapest way is to gut the can that you have which really is fairly easy if you can get ahold of a cutting wheel and welder. i used a plasma torch which was WAY easier, but only because i have acsess to one. or buy an aftermarket one.(cost $0 to 1000+, lol)
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Brookz
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You have to back out the clutch adjustment screw. It looks as though its still attached. It the screw in the middle where you have the spring setting on. Once that is loose the clutch assembly should be free to line up with the slot and come out. I made the same error on my sportster when taking my primary apart and that stupid thing held me up forever as well.
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Zoar. I will get on that. Now, just got to get a torque wrench. : )

No_Rice:It has 3500 or so miles on it. I made the comment to her when I brought it in for the 1000 mile tune up, they said everything was perfect. So, I don't know. I will do what Zoar advised, and see what the results are, as soon as i get it all put back together. Sheesh I can't wait till its all done. It will be so nice, I get sick of looking at it all broken and stuff. Found the exhaust, Jardine carbon fiber slip on. 374 or so. Ought to make it sound mean, I'd like to get the Race ECM too, but sheesh, for a small piece of plastic and metal, you gotta pay like 225 bucks. crazyness, then to top it all off, have your carb adjusted. I am very impatient person, i hate waiting, and all I can do now is wait. Wish i lived in Florida or Southern Cali. Nice weather year round. Ahh hell, we live in iowa.. what better climate than this..... LOL
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Zoar
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had the using or losing alot of oil on a tube frame. It wasnt smoking or anything, but I went ahead and pulled the heads and all to check for ring seal problems, etc. When I pulled a cylinder and looked into the crankcase I was shocked to see the oil level way above the crankpin and onto the rods! When I drained the oil there was 5 1/2 quarts in the cases! My flywheels were drowning to say the least. My oil pump wasnt scavenging the oil back to the tank. It was then that I drilled and tapped a small hole directly into the bottom of the sump on the case and installed a small magnetic drain plug that I got at the dealer. Now when I change my oil I can pop the plug out and get All the oil out as normally there is always about a 1/2 quart that never drains as it is trapped in the sump area.
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i'm going for a ride in alittle bit!!!

keep your eyes open and you should be able to find a jardine one cheaper than that for sure.

or even a better brand for that much!

jardines sound pretty good and are not to much $ but they seem to have alot of durability problems most of the time(not always though)
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Dmextreme
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So what are some sites to check for Buell After Markets, besides Americansportsbike.com???
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No_rice
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

go to the sponsors section of this site. alot of stuff there.

also the classifieds here has stuff all the time.
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as the clutch mechanism, yeah that's what i had to do

I stand corrected!
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Whodom
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Also had another question... Does anyone else use some oil while driving any of the XB's? my god, this thing is a guzzler, but no smoke, no seepage, no anything, just drinks it.

Dmextreme: Seems like the most common reason cited here for excess oil consumption is trying to keep the level too high. Make sure you are checking the level by the book and don't add oil until it gets down to the low mark. More than one Buell rider has found out their oil consumption goes to near-zero when they do it that way.
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Dmextreme
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info guys, I really appreciate it.

on another note I have been reading the search area of the forum about Airbox holes. So what would you recommend. I mean small 3/8" holes, or big cut outs? I mean, extra 2-4 hp would be nice, but is it all in the midrange? I have read about 3 posts, but some people have different thoughts, I am only looking for off the go and midrange power. Thanks guys!
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Daves
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 11:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you need anything, give me a call.
1-866-757-1651
ask for Dave in the sales dept.
I am off Mondays

I come to Iowa every weekend so I can deliver stuff as far as Waterloo for you if you want me to.
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