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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 07:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

okay so I've read the bum cam threads a while back and have a spot on the front cyl exhaust cam. asked for a little good will but the mother-ship said to f-off. expected but disappointing.

now the question i have is just the one cam? is there a real specific reason to do both or even all four? by real and specific i mean something other than 'you may as well while you're in there'...

i am waiting to here back from Micheal at EBR and just figured i would pick the collective brain trust here.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Depends on the wear pattern of the cams and the retainer cap. Parts _should_ be interchangeable as long as it's in spec. It's been a while since I've had a motor apart that far though, and never on the 1125 as of yet.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 12:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had one of, if not THE, first cam failure back in the summer of 2008.
BMC/H-D replaced the exhaust cam and its follower under warranty/infant care.
I did Loretta's 2nd valve inspection last summer and all the cams looked fine, zero pitting.

Honestly, mine was de-laminating badly but I doubt I would have suspected trouble if I hadn't SEEN the cam.
She made no new noises, no running/performance issues and no flecks in the oil.
I did drop the strainer and found two tiny flakes of metal that were verrry thin.





Replace the cam with a new one and watch the other three, but don't lose sleep or riding time.

Zack
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Jdugger
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had the same thing on my '08, I think at the second valve check, so probably just over a year of ownership.

I couldn't tell. The only way we knew was from opening the motor.
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Avalaugh
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It only appears to affect the front exhaust cam !

So just replace that one IMO
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 04:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thanks guys that's the impression i have been getting is the front exhaust cam is the failure point. so i am gonna grab one from erik and call it good
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah the damage on mine is maybe at most 5% of what you've got going on there. And I haven't heard any major changes to the rattle as of yet. Since I found the damage I haven't lost a wink but the bike has maybe seen 150miles in the last 80ish days....
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Zac4mac
Posted on Monday, February 06, 2012 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When I looked at mine, post-mortem, the followers were pristine but I convinced Matt at CS to replace them.
It was the front exhaust, BTW.
Fix it and ride the hell out of it.
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 06:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the little 'block' on the center of the camshaft. is it required for balancing? I've left a couple messages with Dennis and sent an email to Michael and so far no response.

sadly budget is a huge factor for me so it's not just a run out and buy one option.
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Dennis_c
Posted on Thursday, February 09, 2012 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Boogiman1981
PM sent
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Stirz007
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 12:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

zac and JD: Apparently I have one of the very early 08's (#298). Out of curiosity, what number were yours? Thanks
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Avalaugh
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it the last 3 digits for model number ??
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Jdugger
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 03:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

669 I think...
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Stirz007
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks JD. Av - last three digits of VIN.
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Avalaugh
Posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah mine is a early one too, No.386

Had a sticker on the frame too saying Feb 2007 with I presume is build date.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 12:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is 154.
She was finished the end of the first week or beginning of the second of initial production.
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Avalaugh
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 01:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I recall reading somewhere it was the first batch of 1000 bikes ?
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Musclecargod
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pretty sure mine is 144, cams just checked out good. Running Amsoil.
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C818919
Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2012 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What kind of gains would you see from http://crowerperformance.com/i-5912878-buell- ... ?
problems running the engine too lean? thoughts?
next question.....would you have to play with the ignition map if you changed to these cams??
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Avalaugh
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 05:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's a good price for Exchange cams : )
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Boogiman1981
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Certainly cheaper than new ones. Take offs from Erik are about the same. I remember reading somewhere that the 1190 is using cams from Crane but couldn't find them on the Crane site.
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C818919
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree the price is right....just like to know what you guys think about installing and using them...
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1_mike
Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2012 - 06:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mine is the front "intake" cam.

I've been driving my mini-bike (XB12S) and the big Buell's just been sitting..
I bought all the new parts...just haven't taken it apart yet...working on car stuff..

Mike
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