| Author | Message | ||
     Dannybuell |
three hours ago... Juggling lots of stuff here! About a week away from starting final EPA testing; getting ready to pick someone to paint the first marketing bikes; prepping 1125 stuff for daytona, start putting together the initial assembly area next week...kinda like the old days with very small numbers of hand built bikes. | ||
| Xb9er |
When you go back to the basics your learn you were better off before. I think Erik is going through this stage right now. He is going to do wonderful things in weeks to come. | ||
| Froggy |
Thats an accurate statement.  | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
Dang Froggy, now whats Court gonna say? | ||
| Kenm123t |
remind me to tell you sometime a phrase that will someday haunt him when we make him fess up | ||
| Rpm4x4 |
I am getting a little giddy waiting to hear more on the 1190. Ive got to admit that Ive been getting nervous that the 1190 might never see the light of day. Its been pretty Quiet in the Erik Buell Racing camp for a while. Seeing the 1125rr at Daytona didnt help my worries either. Its starting to sound like the 1190 is going to really happen. Someday we will look back on this time and say remember when...  | ||
| Drawkward |
Let's just hope the bikes aren't so expensive we all have to be making 150k a year to afford one...  | ||
| Nattyx1 |
Froggy - tell me. I won't tell anyone. Unless it's REALLY good stuff and then I'll use it on my radio show. :-) | ||
| Court |
>>>>kinda like the old days with very small numbers of hand built bikes. It's REALLY cool . . I packed up all the unused flat panel monitors in the house and sent them for the production line. Think early S2 set up with the benefit of LOTS AND LOTS of Lessons Learned. Testing has thrown a few curves in the mix but is looking good! Eager to see the early production bikes . . .now we're talking BUELLS. By the way . . Erik Buells fascination with motorcycles and people has always . . since the day he first threw a leg over a 99cc Parilla Slughi . . has been to make motorcycle accessible to REAL people. The initial runs of race bikes will be . . . well, RACE BIKES . . .and surely priced accordingly . . but you can always bet where Erik is headed. CAVEAT: The foregoing is based entirely on guesses, speculation and reading the internet. Happy 30th birthday . . Alicia Keys. | ||
| Mickeyq |
If the prototype built up by Pegasus is a portent of the upcoming 1190 series--things are looking mighty fine!  | ||
| Crackhead |
could the 1190 be approved mid season? | ||
| Spank |
"Happy 30th birthday . . Alicia Keys." <--?? | ||
| Court |
>>>>could the 1190 be approved mid season? I **think** so. . . . there's a chance that it could happen before Daytona but lets call that a "one in a million". Preparing one of these bikes, and I'm telling most folks here very little, involves a lot of things. Preparing a RACE BIKE is about 10% of preparing a COMMERCIALLY AVAILABLE motorcycle. And . . . the stakes are too high. This can't be rushed. It's like one of my pals who's enjoyed "well above average" success at Land Speed Racing . . if the bike is not DONE 30 days before the event you are pushing it. I . . and this is my personal opinion . . would far prefer to arrive at the start of the race with a well sorted 1125 that's clocked 202+ MPH and a seasoned rider who knows that bike than an 1190 that has been ready since midnight last and is seeing the banking for the first time. Just thinking aloud . . . Buell does themselves far more service by running a really good race with an 1125 than by running a spectacular part of a race with an 1190. Think strategically, act logically, perform extraordinarily. Court Happy 30th birthday . . Alicia Keys | ||
| Court |
P.S. - While that Typhon is an amazing styling exercise . . . well, it's a styling exercise. There is almost nothing on that bike that would homologate . . . but it perhaps provides some confidence that there are a group of folks not sitting on their ass deciding what they can or can't call their company. | ||
| Nattyx1 |
Court: I agree with you 100% on the 1125v1190 at Daytona. You cannot unring a bell. What people remember from the RMR/Buell effort at Daytona with the 1125r is the bodywork coming off and Danny getting blackflagged. We all knew and know it was a pit crew mistake - not a design flaw. But the prima facie message sent to the world was, "Buells fall apart at speed." Better to have every facet and fastener tested, tried and true well before the event, so the only "drama" at the event is which tires to select. | ||
| Crackhead |
it would be nice if the 1190 body work received a conditional approval assuming the complete 1190 could receive a mid season approval. | ||
| Rex |
I agree with having the 1125 running perfectly for the superbike race. But at Daytona, top speed is king. Can the stock 1125 still run in the Daytona class? | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
rex - i THINK someone is running one in it, manxboy maybe??? Check the racing section, its talked about there. I understand what youre saying Court. I know we're all super anxious to see the 1190, we want to see it dominate, but like you said, its better to bring out a well sorted bike and KNOW it'll compete VS something new and wonder. And youre dead on with Eslick at the 200 - The thing people remember is 'Eslick was battling up front and then his fairings came off...' by the way - what was the pit crew mistake? They forget to fasten the dzus fasteners or something? I never heard the reason for the issue | ||
| Rex |
I had heard they were running a different type of bodywork. Not the stock Buell pods. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Timing is every thing working on being ready to buy when bike is ready to ship Or pick up at Buell drive ala Corvettes factory pick up | ||
| Coolice |
Danny's bike had the right side bodywork come loose, we experienced the same problem just prior to his race in the MOTO GT race. The air pressure literally pulled the aircraft fasteners thru the fiberglass. Again taking a bike to Daytona untested and with no CCS/ASRA weekend prior to test/pre-run it's not worth the risk. The Erik Buell Racing 1125RR package has proved itself, GAME ON! | ||
| D_adams |
As I recall, the general consensus was that the K bracket came loose from the frame, there's only ONE bolt holding it in place and it vibrated out or was accidentally left just a little loose, ie; not torqued to spec. I don't think it was fasteners being pulled through the bodywork. (Message edited by d_adams on January 25, 2011) | ||
| Ratbuell |
...and if Daytona this year is anything like last year...it would be good to have as much experience on the bike as possible, given the track and tire temps. It was freakin' COLD down there last year!! I wish Erik and the Elves the best, and totally understand (and applaud) wanting to take their time and do it right. Besides...it's not like I can buy right now anyway. Life is a mess, and I already have too damn many Buells in the garage  | ||
| 46champ |
If anything bad happens at Daytona everyone on the planet will know. If anything bad happens anywhere else only some of the people watching the race will know. Except those who write and read superbike planet they will be waiting and watching and bitching. | ||
| Jdugger |
> there's only ONE bolt holding it in place > and it vibrated out or was accidentally left > just a little loose, ie; not torqued to spec Maybe. When I bought my bodywork kit from Erik Buell Racing, they included a big fender washer for the inside of the ram air system. An off the cuff remark was made to me while I was on the phone with them "yea, that's so you don't have the problem we did at Daytona." Looking at it, I get the distinct impression without those big washers pulling through the fiberglass at the mount point is a very distinct possibility. That one bolt on each side does indeed hold up the entire bodywork of a DSB-Spec 1125r. | ||
| Blake |
Doesn't sound like you are talking about the same part as Dean. He specifically mentions the "K bracket." Forgetting to put a washer under a bolt head or nut holding thin fiberglass in place on a fairing would be a mistake, especially in a 200 mile race. | ||
| D_adams |
I went hunting but didn't find what I thought I had read, I may be incorrect on which part came loose on Eslick's bike. Either way, the entire right panel came loose and was flapping in the breeze, I remember seeing that. It may have just been the bodywork, I don't know for 100% certainty. | ||
| Jdugger |
So, the way the DSB bodywork mounts is with a single bolt (or maybe two, can't specifically remember) into the OEM radiator support bracket. If you just reuse the original M6 button bolt there, you stress a relatively small portion of the fiberglass, and it will eventually fail. It is just those two (or one) M6 bolts that holds up the ENTIRE bodywork. The side panels mount to the inside ram air and are not supported in any other way. The belly pan then attaches to the side panels. A fair bit of stress is carried in that bodywork. | ||
| Blake |
Especially at 180+ MPH! | ||
| Anonymous |
Crap I hate BS stories being spread. There has never been an incident of the K brackets coming loose. It was fasteners pulling through the bodywork on Danny's bike because the mechanic working on it didn't re-install the big body washers that were there and were supposed to be used. Lesson learned the hard way. Team won the championship anyhow. |
