| Author | Message | ||
     Stickxb |
Ok... So what are the +/- of removing the secondary throttle control solenoid? | ||
| Zac4mac |
The Active Air Solenoid, aka "the 'noid"? 1)it weighs a couple of pounds 2)it will scare the shit out of you if it does its thing 3)removing the cable will reduce the throttle tension 4)tying the throttle cams/plates together will prevent butterfly-flutter at high rpm - smoother That's all I can think of, HIGHLY recommended by us owners. Z | ||
| Drhodes1970 |
And it makes a nice paperweight. | ||
| 07xb12ss |
Anyone have pics of tying the butterfly linkages together? | ||
| Avalaugh |
And i think someone converted it to work as a trunk release lock on a truck  | ||
| Ratsmc |
noid removal This has all the instructions including tying the linkage. Personally, I used wire rather than a ziptie. | ||
| Eece_ret |
Agreed, this was a must do for me. Had the noid damn near throw me over the bars a few times. Last track day the CEL was burning bright after EACH session (well each session after warm up...). Just a little reminder that had I left the NOID in place I would have been hating life at the track. | ||
| Jdugger |
It's not necessary to remove it, but I know of no good reason to keep it. If you are in there doing an air filter anyway, take then extra 30 minutes to go ahead and pull it. | ||
| Trbulnt |
FTR - If you are running an Erik Buell Racing ECM than the solenoid is no longer active. This just makes removing it a matter of preference. | ||
| Stickxb |
Thanks for info. Just ordered Erik Buell ECM and fmf. So other than the weight savings Iam good. | ||
| Jrfitzny |
If you have the Erik Buell Racing ECM, do you still need to buy that resistor if you remove the solenoid? | ||
| Jdugger |
no. | ||
| Splodge |
I've read a load of the threads on this 'node issue but still not sure why it's there. Could somebody explain what it does please, it was definately put on for a reason and must of cost a few bucks so somebody thought it was worth it when designing the bike. Mines still on but what change could I expect if I removed it? Sorry about asking, I've used the search function but still confused (doesn't seem to take much nowadays!!). | ||
| Jdugger |
The 'noid is there to pass EPA noise regs. Specifically, it prevents full throttle in a very specific range of RPMs in 3rd gear only in order to pass a test. Lost of people complain about it because it can take you by surprise. If you whack open the throttle in 3rd gear below 4500 RPM, you are likely to hit it. Here's the deal... when the big uproar about it blew up here, and everyone was complaining about it, the sensible advice, down shift, was ignored. After all, if one wants to accelerate rapidly, at the very low RPMs the 'noid is active for, 2nd gear, even after the time lost to the down shift, will way out perform lugging the motor in 3rd. And, there's no noid in 2nd gear. And, once above about 5500 RPM in 3rd, there's no noid, either. It was all very silly, really. But, from a bike standpoint, I prefer removing the 'noid because it makes the throttle action so much lighter. It's easier to twist, etc. And, that's really nice. | ||
| Milleniumx1 |
Jdugger is right that it probably got more buzz than it deserved, but my riding style was different than his. I hit the noid function a few times, because I like going WOT in 3rd gear at 4,800 rpm. Downshifting from there isn't my preference in most situations, but again this is going to be subjective by rider. It's almost like they put it in my sweet spot just to annoy me! Mike (Message edited by milleniumx1 on December 09, 2010) | ||
| Freight_dog |
The best reason I can name to lose the 'noid is that it is completely unnecessary. It does weigh actually a little less than a pound (I weighed it), but it is still nearly a pound of unneeded ballast to haul around. Getting rid of it does lighten the throttle a little, not to mention the off chance that you might not have that third gear power when you most need it. |
