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D_adams
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know the rated output is 445 watts. I'm wanting to run some heated Gerbing gear, but I don't know what the normal rated load is. The jacket draws up to 77 watts, the gloves another 27 watts and if I get the pants, most are around 44 watts. If I'm fully loaded, that's 148 watts.
The reason I ask is, if I'm riding now and turn on my high beams, I can watch the voltage drop. I know that it's not a super accurate real-time display, but if I add that extra 70 watts from the high beams, it definitely drops off.

Anybody have experience with heated gear and what it does to the battery/charging system on these? I have an 08 model and it's never had any charging problems yet, but I don't want to blow $650-900 on riding gear that I can't use either.

Thx Frank, edited for the draw on the system. 77 amps is a bit much.

(Message edited by d_adams on September 27, 2010)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My experience last winter with my 08 was that the bike will have a harder time keeping charged while running the gear, so I recommend you skip on the high beams and use a battery tended at night. It can do it, but it dosen't have room for much more.

Oh, and the jacket isn't 77 amps ; )
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Blk09r
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean - I have a Gerbing jacket that I'm planning on hooking up in the next week. I would hope the charging system is up to the task. The Gerbing controller pulses on and off unless you have it turned all the way up so there won't be a constant load on the system most of the time. You may want to upgrade the voltage regulator if you have concerns. I don't think you'll cause any problems for the stator however because it's already running at full output due to the regulator shunting any extra energy to ground.

I was planning on reporting if the jacket had any ill effects on my 09 R but that may not happen for a couple of weeks.
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Gsxrguy
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

change your license plate, marker lights and brake lights to LED and you should save at least 20watts
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Daniii
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ran my Gerbing jacket and gloves all last winter, and never saw any low voltages, (but I admit I wasn't as paranoid about it then as I am now). I'm assuming voltage would drop if there was an issue.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Alright then. Ordered a dual controller, the G3 microwire gloves and the jacket liner. If it goes ok then I'll get some pants later. I guess the stuff will show up either Wednesday or Thursday.
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Rpm4x4
Posted on Monday, September 27, 2010 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Keep in mind that your fans shouldnt be running much if you need heated gear. That should make up a large part of the amps needed.
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Roadrash1
Posted on Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For what it's worth, I have a Gerbing jacket liner, and I use the adjustable controller, because unless you want the hair burned off your arms, you just can't stand having the thing on full. I rode home from Rapid City to Sioux Falls last weekend with just the Gerbing under my Roadcrafter. It was 50 degrees out at times, and I still never ran the liner more than 2/3rds of the way on! Heated gear feels like "Wood Stove"!
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Zac4mac
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What Rpm4x4 said, less fan time, also, the charging system is more efficient at lower temps.
Winter riding, my OpTemp is right at the thermostat point at 160-165 when ambient is below 50 or so.

I've done well with heated grips and some really good passive gear.
Leather outside, silk inside and lots of cotton/wool/down in between is my target.
Economics dictates cotton/poly-propylene/wool/down/leather and it works well so far.
15 minute ride to work saw 7 dF last Feb once.

Pic is from first few days on the road with Loretta.
She arrived in the middle of the biggest blizzard of the season in December 2007





Zack
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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 09:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I did 26 F this spring (middle of Feb) without heated gear and it was really too cold for a sensible person. Obviously I'm not that, but I wont be repeating it again.
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Pyrogen
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 02:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I am planning on getting heated gear too, I however have 09 which is suppose to have a higher output, right? so with jacket, pants, and gloves I should have no problems right?

thanks
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Maximum
Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I ride with headed gloves, heated grips, and a heated jacket liner in cold months. I have comfortably ridden with temps in the low 20's...and uncomfortably down to 7 degrees. Last winter I did not have any issues with low voltage...but that was prior to the harness "upgrade". I did have one 15 degree morning where the bike would not start...but that was after being outside all night...didn't do that again.
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Voltage drops rapidly if it's turned up full blast. Watched it go down to 12.2 and finally dialed it back some. Took 10 miles to recover from that little test. Jacket and gloves only, no pants yet. Ballpark it's about 11 amps total draw at full power, which is entirely too much for the charging system. The pants would add another 3-4 amps I think, so extreme cold weather is out of the question at this point.

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Daniii
Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I rode last winter at 20F and never plugged the pants in. Tucked in, the legs never got seriously cold. Good news, the stator won't overheat.
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Ccryder
Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've ridden with egloves and ejacket w/o any issues. But, running driving lights too can create a low volt issue.

FWIW, the first time you hit frost, black ice or ice on two wheels you will rethink about ridding below 32f. The pucker factor was so high that.......... Well you get the picture. I can stay warm but the sudden loss of traction can quickly screw up your day.

Later
Neil S.
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Zac4mac
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even without black ice, the tires at low temps get pretty hard and tractionless on their own.

I had Loretta full sideways several times the first Winter.
The rear steps out real fast with the power available.

I think I'll be on the Uly most of the time this Winter.

Z
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D_adams
Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got a chance to finally get out for a short ride 2 weeks ago. It was wet/drizzling the whole time. Lots of pucker factor moments, especially the 3rd gear one at 70 mph on flat straight ground. Neal wanted to see if there was much of a difference between mine and his (bone stock) 1125. Both of us got sideways in a hurry trying to do a 3rd gear roll-on. Everything looked like it was finally going to dry out enough to give it a run but it wasn't. Pretty scary doing that at speed.
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